Some of the comments here are insightful, some hilarious. I
remember back when I was told by a friend (we officiated high school football
together) that BYU would never win a conference championship "because they
had too many returned missionaries" on the team. That just happened to be
the last year Tommy Hudspeth was the head coach and the next year an assistant
was promoted to the top----a guy named Lavell Edwards.The rest, as
they say, is history..........So having RM's was a liability;
then it was an asset. Always those who lost to BYU on a consistent basis were
quick to accuse them of some "unfair advantage." Oh well..........The missionary effort is what's most important here, after all.
And the change will require adjustments, so just make tham, already.
Re: Vegas, You don't suppose it has anything to do with the fact that
they are in prime marriage years after completing school, do you? And that is,
of course, if they haven't already gotten married before graduation, as so
very many BYU students do. No, those who have graduated from school are looking
to get on with their lives, rather than put it on hold for another two years.
Perhaps they shouldn't look at it that way, but, for all the good that
comes from serving a mission, it is still a sacrifice to go and put everything
else aside for two years.
I've always been surprised that there is hardly ever any mention of the
ability to serve a mission after school. This is always downplayed. Why
don't we have athletes ever choose to play their 4 years and then serve a
BYU and the other in-state schools will be scrambling because of this. There are
going to be scholarships opening up that were unexpected for next year, which
likely benefits senior walk-ons. They can't simply give them to other HS
athletes, because the scholarships will be taken when they return home from a
mission. BYU especially has to carefully map out scholarship commitments by
year, and this change blows all that up.Also, while this seems to
benefit BYU in terms of getting uninterrupted college years and having fewer
transfer restrictions, it will totally change the culture of campus, teams and
the mission field. You used to have guys on mission talk up their BYU
experience, and all of that will go away.Outside of sports, I feel
for the admissions folks who are going to have to deal with a sudden
multi-thousand student drop in campus population next year (and the boom that
will follow two years later if they allow wait-listed applicants in). This will
be awesome for the sisters though...there will be an huge increase in the # of
Is this new revelation only about 120 players on scholarship at BYU? I know most
readers are all about BYU with DNews. I would hope that other articles will
look at college athletes in other programs and sports. Assuming there are 120
athletes on scholarship (On missions) this includes 0.002% of the 56,000
missionaries. There are programs such as Boise State who rarely
bring in 'mission kids' because of jumping to BYU, getting older and
losing interest in football and moving on. How many more programs will look at a
kid, once he returns, and they have him committed for four years without a
'mission jump' clause?How many kids are willing to play
college sports now they getting off their mission a year younger? Again, with
two kids playing college football, I know that the football arena hasn't
been the safest place. Coaches are seeing that bringing in LDS kids creates
stability for their other athletes because they are more disciplined and have
more maturity and come from stable homes- generally. I respect BYU.
BUT one message of BYU is they can compete against anyone in who's teams
has great students, and values.
1. BYU Football represents 1/1000 of all college football programs2. Many
other programs throughout the country are bringing in LDS athletes into their
systems because they see the benefit of bringing in athletes from stable homes
and who value education. 3. Many programs are reluctant to bring in
athletes who are not committed to their cause- jumping to BYU4. Most
programs want an athlete for 4 straight years. SO what about that year between
high school and mission? How many doors have been closed for football, mission,
and education from bad choices during that Limbo time period? 5. I have an
18 and 24 year old on full ride at another school. Their opportunities have been
far reaching because of living in a mixed society of RMs, non- LDS- remember
missionary work is part of the three fold mission of the church. 6.
Imagine if each of the 1000 football programs in the country had 10 players on
their roster? That's 10,000 more scholarships rather than 80 at BYU
I do think it will help the football team--and I do think this is an appropriate
thing to discuss since it is the sports section. Going on a mission does tend
to change your priorities, and does, on balance, give athletes the desire to go
to a church school. But, and I know this isn't sports-related,
I am ecstatic about lowering the women's age to 19. For a young lady to
have completed perhaps three years of college and then try to leave on a mission
can be a tough decision, and probably one that materially affects their ability
to get married. And there of course is a little bit of stigma about going only
because one did not have immediate marriage prospects. My daughter has always
spoken of potentially going on a mission, but she frankly has been more popular
with the young men than I would like. It will be wonderful for her to make a
much easier decision now to go on a mission two years earlier, then come back
and still be in the thick of things, so to speak.
How inspiring. Young men nationwide on fire to get out there and get their
missionary service out of the way so they can get back and play four straight
years of football. The mission presidents must be elated.
One comment that Dick wrote doesn't make much sense. This decision will
not lower the average age for BYU football players at all. It will actually
raise it since there will be fewer 18 yr old freshman players and more 20 yr old
freshman players.This will probably help BYU sports because fewer
other programs simply won't hold a scholarship for 2 yrs while they wait
for a missionary to arrive on campus and it won't give other programs a
year to talk an LDS player out of serving a mission altogether.
In the United Kingdom, it's been a serious problem for college students to
interrupt their education. Some schools wouldn't let you attend if you
stop after 1 year.Now UK students can go on their mission right away
and then do 4 years straight of college.Really good for them (where
I used to live).This is the scenario this is primarily intended to
help. If it also helps athletes, then good for them too.
WhatsInItForMe - BYU had an invite from the Big 12 and declined the invite, BYU
will get an invite from the Big East this year and if they are lucky one from
the ACC, the Big 12 ship has sailed.
Perhaps a convenience for some but those who want to serve will. Since the
decision was based on considerations other than athletic, it's premature to
draw too many implications.
@utahute72Great point. This will give these kids the opportunity to
re-evaluate their decisions from a position of maturity and perhaps spare them
the punishment that would have previously come from making an immature decision.
It's not going to help that much. If a kid goes on his mission after high
school, he misses school and gets back right before season starts. He probably
won't be able to be in the mix until he redshirts or rides the pine. Unless
rare exceptions. Where I think this DOES help is for the kids who turn 19 in
summer, because they aren't ready to play as true freshman, then are away
for 2 years then get back in the summer and go through the process I explained
above. Regardless, if a kid leaves after High School, he will be playing a year
earlier than it's been right now. I think this was inspired.
Well this should give BYU more opportunity to re-recruit kids that commit to
other programs since it makes it less likely they will enroll early and come
under the Riley rule.
Gotta admit...this is one of the first thoughts I had when I heard the
announcement! How will this affect BYU Football! Should be interesting to
watch it unfold.
@FYI Who cares about SPORTS anyway? The World has more problems on
it hands than Sports. Think about it..
This change will bring more schools into the hunt for the top LDS players. In
fact, it may hurt BYU as much as help.
Perhaps bigger than the age for young men being lowered to 18 is the two year
lowing of age for young women (to 19). Not only is this an encouragement for
more young women to serve, but it will effectively end the social and academic
distractions after age 21, so young men and women will be able to focus on
what's more important as they reach legal adulthood.
@ Mom of 8What Duckhunter said.And also,
@Mom of 8I agree with you except that this is the sports section and
the purpose of the sports section is to analyze the impacts of things on sports
specifically. The purpose of this article is to examine how this affects BYU
sports. The sports section is for looking at things from the perspective of
sports. There's some articles about this in the general news section of the
paper where we can discuss the affect this will have on our sons overall but if
you come to the sports section then you should expect to get your news in this
section from a sports perspective.
ANYONE who thinks this was a decision just to help BYU athletics is so far out
of touch with reality that they should check a map to see where they really
are.Notwithstanding the challenges or benefits the changes present
to the university, the changes are to enhance preaching the Gospel to the four
corners of the earth. After all, BYU is a Church school, and the first mission
of the Church is to preach the Gospel.
@Mom of 8 and PACWhile I understand your comments about the new
mission age, plese remember that this is the sports section, Dick Harmon is a
sport writer, so an article or comments on how it will impact sports is entirely
So, will Jabari go on a mission right out of high school, thus waiting two more
years to commit to anyone? Might be smart on his part. By then BYU might be in
the Big XII, making it much easier for him to come here.
I think when the Lord change the age to 18 for young men,19 for young women he
was not concern with BYU football. Let it go people!
Nice to see an article about Higher Education. However, Sports is only one
aspect of the graduating seniors life. Are there articles in process where the
reporters are contacting the financial aid offices of the local colleges and
universities? If my son has the 4.0 and chooses to volunteer for two years
following H.S. graduation, with which group is he competing for scholarships?
Class of 2013 or 2015? Sports may have the one year vacuum for the 2013-2014
year - great opportunity for some "higher tuition" kids to make an
impact at the Y and surrounding schools!
joseywales "I heard from a great source that this announcement was meant to
help BYU athletics out."Really? And I heard it from a good
source it was so Brazilians can serve a mission before their mandatory military
service. ...since we are starting rumors.
No way does Jabari Parket serve a mission, his missionary service is becoming
the number 1 pick in the Nba draft It awesome two of the best athletes the other
being Bryce Harper in the world are LDS
Braxton, I am not sure a couch can influence a kid to sign! Now, a love seat?
Maybe...but never a couch.Josey...please name your great source! If
a prophet is a prophet...he is the intermediary for God right? Not Bronco! Or
Holmoe! So I doubt your source.On the other hand, if God really
wanted a better football team couldn't he just make one? If BYU is Gods
team, wouldn't they win every game? My assumption is that the creator of
all things finds football meaningless and worries about other things. Just a
guess...call me zanny!!Your logic is flawed . Let us know who your
great source is....we are dying to know
If Jabari Parker goes on a mission, he won't go straight to the pros
afterwards. He is a high school phenom that needs some college ball to prove
@Wiley Old SchoolShawn Bradley should of come back for one more year
to get in fit and work on his skill before entering nba. If Jabari do choose to
serve then he would be wise to play college one or two years before entering
nba. And would it make sense if he chooses to play one year college and then go
on mission? If he did that then he should play another year of college to get
back to his form. His best optons - 1. mission and 2 one or two year college OR
1. One year college and go nba.It is up to him as well to any young
men/women what best for them when timing is right. I know that I would be
nervous after my HS of what to do first. Some others may say its piece a cake.
Timing matters that will fit in their lives.Other advantage to BYU,
those major college more likely won't take those highly recuited hs kids
when they finish their mission. Am I wrong or what?
To Wiley Old School: I think schools other than BYU and those in the state of
Utah would generally not be interested in waiting 2 years for the young man to
return home. They will not be able to have contact with the young man, except
through his parents. I think they will look elsewhere. The exception is those
that desire an out of Utah school. It may work out in some cases with those
Also, if Jabari Parker decides that he does want to serve a mission, then this
new option may mean he never plays college ball. (Goes straight to his mission
after high school and then straight to the pros.) This new option means a
mission would only need to delay his entry into the pros by one season instead
This should make it easier for athletes to consider schools other than BYU and
other schools to consider LDS athletes.Families should be much more
comfortable sending their kid to a non-church school knowing they will have
matured on their mission. Non-church schools will no longer need to deal with
the complexities of fitting in a mission in between an athlete's four years
of eligibility.What a great opportunity for spiritually mature LDS
athletes to let their lights shine at other schools instead of "under the
bushel" at BYU. (And this doesn't go just for athletes!)
I heard from a great source that this announcement was meant to help BYU
athletics out. Better teams, more wins, equal more exposure for the church.
It's a win/win.
@3grandslams....on the contrary, missions have helped BYU and BYU allowing kids
to transfer, like Riley, Wadsworth and Hill has harmed the LDS athletes in
general. BYU should remind these athletes to be honest and true, to honor
their commitments. How does this hurt the LDS Athletes? If you are a
couch wanting to recruit a kid who wants to serve a mission you would have to
worry if the kid will just transfer to BYU when they return. I would rather
not deal with it and recruit else ware. I love this announcement. Way to go
Yep, first thing I thought when I heard this announcement was, "Football,
this is going to help a lot." However, it will make BYU younger overall so
maybe they won't be able to compete...not! Truth is missions have always
hurt BYU but they've dealt with it. This will help BYU get on even par
with the competition.On a differerent note, the cheer and dance
squad will have to deal with missionary service now like never before.
I would hope everyone's first question would be, "How will this new
change impact the YOUNG MEN?"How will it impact BYU sports? That
question should be way, waaaayy down the list, right above, "Is that really
important?"This mission announcement is an awesome, amazing
change that affects young men for the rest of their lives, providing options
many may never have dared hope for. The impact of football isn't
nearly as important--unless the poor kids get multiple concussions . . .