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Published: Friday, Oct. 5 2012 4:01 p.m. MDT

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

That's OK. It's not about impressing romney. In fact, he doesn't need another job. Especially as president.

A1994
Centerville, UT

In your face, conservatives! We got the unemployment rate UNDER 8% for the first time in 44 months! Take that!

I'd really like to believe the economy had the biggest one month jobs jump in 29 years. However, the numbers make no sense. One report shows 114,000 jobs were added. But anther report shows 873,000 people found work. That's what GWB calls 'fuzzy math.'

MapleDon
Springville, UT

Boosts Obama? How?

The country's economy is in the toilet, most otherwise employable people have given up looking for jobs, nearly 50 million people on food stamps, and you're saying this is all good news for Obama? Do you really want us all to suffer more?

We're destroying our economy following the Greece model under Obama's direction.

Give me a break, DesNews. Why don't you report the real facts about the economy and then let your readers decide for themselves whether they want this train wreck to continue? Instead, you feel it's your duty to go along with the NBC, New York Times, Washington Post, etc. model of being Obama's advocate.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@A1994
the problem is that you all keep leaving out the fact that the unemployment numbers are based on the 114,00 jobs added report not the 873,000 report.

A1994
Centerville, UT

@Tolstoy

It can't be both ways. If it was just based off the 114,000 and the rate dropped that far, that would mean fewer people were counted. (The thing that has been happening for months now...people dropping out of the work force.)

CNBC and the Wall Street Journal are questioning these numbers. They don't add up. But the real point is that real unemployment is over 10%. Just because the government decides to stop counting people who have dropped out of the labor force, it doesn't make then any less unemployed.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

MapleDon - you comment would be interesting if Obamacare was actually in force right now. Very few provisions are actually in force yet, and yet people want to believe that these future cost are what is causing today's problem. So lets look are the real world for a minute.

Under the low taxes plan we had the single most 1 year loss of jobs in 80 years. We had the collapse of the banking system. We had manufacturing crashing to the ground. And we had a housing market in free fall. I know you all don't like it when people show you this all began in 2006 - 3 years before Obama took office - but denying the problem doesn't make it go away.

Does anyone think the problems were all driven by the Bush administration - No. When Obama took over, this was 40 years of problems in the making -from both parties.

Claims that the problems we had were a result of Obama's 3.5 years in office show a real lack of honesty or knowledge of the facts. Obama perfect... nope. But lets stop making up stuff. It doesn't add any credibility to ones statements.

Lowell Steele
Farmington, UT

The real problem here is that neither the media nor its readers understand what comprises the data. The unemployment rate is meaningless unless delivered in conjunction with the Labor Force Participation Rate (LFPR), meaning the percentage of the workforce (those eligible for work who are either employed or unemployed but looking for work) who are actually working. The LFPR is the lowest it's been in 30 years. In fact, if you go to the LFPR page on the Bureau of Labor Statistics website and look at their graph, you'll see a deep nosedive for the last four years.

Now, there are all sorts of complexities that figure into these data, that make them all very difficult to use as a barometer of national economic health, including the fact that they are based on survey samples, not actual numbers, and the minor detail that sometimes people eligible to work stop working for other voluntary reasons besides despair at getting a job.

The very idea that one tenous number could sway the whole result of this presidential race is simply ludicrous!

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@A1994
the 7.8% was determined the same way it has been for many decades now and is the same "real numbers" that have been used to determine the unemployment rate for decades so stop trying to compare apples to cantaloupe.

Grammy3
SOUTH JORDAN, UT

Something smells fishy here to me. I for one do not believe it at all. Many people might have found part time work or something like that. Yet so many many people out there have just given up and no longer get unemployment. Or like my husband they are working but not even coming close to making what they were before. They find a job just to have a job. My husband is working 72 hours or more a week just to make sure we have what we need. We have not had a vacation in over four years our retirement is almost all gone because we had to live on it before he found this job. I am mad because it should not have been like this. I know that it is not all Obama's fault but I also feel that he has not done his job so I want him fired and bring in someone else to see if they can fix this mess. We are in for some major hard times no matter if Obama gets reelected or Romney wins but I have more faith in Mitt Romney than I do Obama.

Mister J
SLC, UT

A1994 7:13 p.m. Oct. 5, 2012

WSJ is owned Rupert Murdoch who has no agenda whatsoever. Sarcasm off?

re: UtahBlueDevil

"Does anyone think the problems were all driven by the Bush administration - No. When Obama took over, this was 40 years of problems in the making -from both parties."

Agreed. Things have devolved alot since Reagan left office; there have been only Ivy Leaguers @ 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. The source of our problems is more than just 40 yrs of bad policy; it was the creation of the Fed In 1913.

@ Grammy3

Perhaps, Jack Welch is right & maybe big oil is behind the spike in gas prices in CA in an attempt to get another Repub in the Oval Office.

Here is something to ponder... Unemployment figures always come out this time of the month; the debates were scheduled knowing that.

Schwa
South Jordan, UT

Well, there goes that GOP talking point.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

Of course Romney isn't impresesed -- the omrpvement of the economy and lowering of the unemployment rate takes away one of his major talking points. If he were the one in office, dealing with a bad economy, he would be extatic with this type of improvement. Another example of his hypocricy.

m.g. scott
LAYTON, UT

Good grief, This is NOT any kind of improvement in jobs for the President. I've posted this on other articles yesterday. It is exactly the SAME 7.8% number that Obama had when he "inherited" it from Bush. Look it up if you don't believe it. So Obama is supposed to run on No Improvement? It's like a football coach taking over a losing team 4 years ago and having the same losing record 4 years later. You don't get re-hired. Romney should clean Obamas clock with this, should Obama be foolish enough to bring it up in the next debate.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

It is all about job...no wait.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

Less people are working today in America than when Mr. Obama took office. That is the real point and there are more people living in the country today of working age than when he took office. This report is a good example of bad statistics. And, re: Tolstoy the Obama Administration has changed the methodology for the report. It has eased the measure by which those available for work are eliminated from the total, thereby decreasing the percent of unemployed. The unemployment rate if reported as the numbers were calculated during the Clinton and Bush administration would be approximately 9.8%

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Just 30 days before election and two days after Obama got his clock cleaned an improvement(so called) happened. Mmmm

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

shameful. there are less people working and somehow unemployment drops?? go figure. Team Obama continues to rely on their perception that people are dumb.

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