Comments about ‘U.S. unemployment below 8%, first time since 2009’

Return to article »

Published: Friday, Oct. 5 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
m.g. scott

I notice not many Obama supporters are responding to this 7.8% news. Guess they realize that the "Truth is Out There".

Re: Steve Warren

The real consistency is that the unemployment rate now is exactly what it was when Obama took office almost 4 years ago. Now that's consistency!! Not progress, but consistency.

Durham, NC

Coleman51... "A survey of households to determine the numbers of people getting jobs rather than the employer numbers is unprecedented and to claim that 876,000 jobs were created from this survey is at best a guess. "

Well, it is the way it has been done for decades. This all of a sudden "the numbers are rigged" claims is simply silly because if Obama could rig the numbers, he would have done it a long time ago. The logic that for 3 years he rigged them high, then later he rigs them lower is so illogical it makes ones head hurt trying to justify statements like this.

I particularly love how a certain part of the population loves to believe the bad news, and yet where there is positive news... well then it is all suspect and the methodology is wrong. If the methodology is wrong with news is good, it must be equally wrong with the numbers are negative.

Prelax... read the whole report.. July and August numbers were also revised up 40,000 plus each month. These are self reported numbers by companies themselves, and often trickle in late. Part times is not a new factor here.

Orem, UT

Utah Blue Devil: If you look at the U-6 numbers the unemployment number is 14.7 percent. That is unchanged from last month. Using a survey of households to determine the overall unemployment number has not been used before, only the employer number. You may delude yourself into thinking that unemployment is better, but the numbers in this report once you get past their fraud tell a different story. We still have 23.2 million people out of work or underemployed that had full time jobs. We still have an employment participation rate that is at it's lowest level in 30 years. Our GDP growth rate is at 1.3 percent, again the lowest in over 30 years. If you understand at all what you are talking about, you can see that the actual numbers tell a different story than the fraud the Obama administration is telling us.

Provo, UT

Don't you know? If anything is positive for Obama it's a lie or rigged. If anything is positive for Romney it's the truth. Even if that same thing (say a poll) is positive for Obama and then positive for Romney. Well, at first it was wrong, but now it's right. Far right partisans will believe anything they are told in a random email or hear on Rush, etc, even when it strains credulity.

Forgotten pilot
Taylorsville, UT

I wonder *how* they arrive at these numbers.
When I talk to people, instead of reading, about the unemployment *rate*, I have the feeling that the numbers are skewed to say the least.
When a lot of people just give up looking for work, then it *looks* like the rate goes down.

Bill in Nebraska
Maryville, MO

Here is the problem with the numbers. Just two days prior CNN and other networks were predicting the unemployment rate would go UP to 8.3%. What is not registered in the unemployment numbers nor have they ever been which automatically skews the numbers is that anyone who is unemployed but draws a pension is ineligible for unemployment. Therefore, there number is not counted in the numbers given. The whole unemployment numbers have always been skewed and are actually higher than the 7.8%. They are closer to 15%.

Salt Lake City, UT

Listen guys. The multitude of conspiracy theories to explain trends - like the latest polling or the recent BLS Unemployment Number - isn't helping the national dialogue. The Bureau of Labor and Statistics is a venerable Institution that takes pride in holding itself to the highest level of integrity with regard to statistical data and research methods.

When Obama lost the 1st Presidential Debate, even we liberals had to concede that fact (regardless of the reasoning). The tendency to view events through your ideological lense is most compelling when your perception doesn't quite fit the reality of unfolding events. However, manufacturing a conspiracy takes denial to a whole new level as there is collateral damage in the wake of the fall out. Damage in the form of the public's trust in such otherwise unquestionable institutions like the BLS has repercussions that outweigh the political expediency of the moment.

I'm asking each of you Grown Adults to please stop. Stop with the partisan nonsense and the unfounded accusations. Just stop.

Murray, UT

Economist, Obama brought this upon himself by changing the way deportations are counted, and then bragging about it.

Reading the article "Most of the increase in employed Americans came from those who had to settle for part-time work: 582,000 more people reported that they were working part-time last month but wanted full-time jobs." it's not getting better. The rise is due to people looking for full time work accepting part time jobs.

How the BLS counts unemployment has been under fire for years, by both parties.


re: BU52 5:20 p.m. Oct. 5, 2012

And Faux News has alot of commentators who make Oscar look like an optimist.

Saint George, UT

When Cons loose a talking point, they loose their minds.

Salt Lake City, UT

In August the economy added 120,000+ net jobs and the rate of unemployment dropped .002, now in Sept the economy adds 114,000+ jobs and the unemployment rate drops .003. Does anyone really trust these numbers?

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments