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U.S. unemployment below 8%, first time since 2009


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  • Hellooo Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 10, 2012 10:15 a.m.

    In August the economy added 120,000+ net jobs and the rate of unemployment dropped .002, now in Sept the economy adds 114,000+ jobs and the unemployment rate drops .003. Does anyone really trust these numbers?

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 11:03 p.m.

    When Cons loose a talking point, they loose their minds.

  • Pendergast SLC, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 11:50 a.m.

    re: BU52 5:20 p.m. Oct. 5, 2012

    And Faux News has alot of commentators who make Oscar look like an optimist.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 12:14 a.m.

    Economist, Obama brought this upon himself by changing the way deportations are counted, and then bragging about it.

    Reading the article "Most of the increase in employed Americans came from those who had to settle for part-time work: 582,000 more people reported that they were working part-time last month but wanted full-time jobs." it's not getting better. The rise is due to people looking for full time work accepting part time jobs.

    How the BLS counts unemployment has been under fire for years, by both parties.

  • Economist Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:10 p.m.

    Listen guys. The multitude of conspiracy theories to explain trends - like the latest polling or the recent BLS Unemployment Number - isn't helping the national dialogue. The Bureau of Labor and Statistics is a venerable Institution that takes pride in holding itself to the highest level of integrity with regard to statistical data and research methods.

    When Obama lost the 1st Presidential Debate, even we liberals had to concede that fact (regardless of the reasoning). The tendency to view events through your ideological lense is most compelling when your perception doesn't quite fit the reality of unfolding events. However, manufacturing a conspiracy takes denial to a whole new level as there is collateral damage in the wake of the fall out. Damage in the form of the public's trust in such otherwise unquestionable institutions like the BLS has repercussions that outweigh the political expediency of the moment.

    I'm asking each of you Grown Adults to please stop. Stop with the partisan nonsense and the unfounded accusations. Just stop.

  • Bill in Nebraska Maryville, MO
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:36 p.m.

    Here is the problem with the numbers. Just two days prior CNN and other networks were predicting the unemployment rate would go UP to 8.3%. What is not registered in the unemployment numbers nor have they ever been which automatically skews the numbers is that anyone who is unemployed but draws a pension is ineligible for unemployment. Therefore, there number is not counted in the numbers given. The whole unemployment numbers have always been skewed and are actually higher than the 7.8%. They are closer to 15%.

  • Forgotten pilot Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:00 p.m.

    I wonder *how* they arrive at these numbers.
    When I talk to people, instead of reading, about the unemployment *rate*, I have the feeling that the numbers are skewed to say the least.
    When a lot of people just give up looking for work, then it *looks* like the rate goes down.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 9:06 p.m.

    Don't you know? If anything is positive for Obama it's a lie or rigged. If anything is positive for Romney it's the truth. Even if that same thing (say a poll) is positive for Obama and then positive for Romney. Well, at first it was wrong, but now it's right. Far right partisans will believe anything they are told in a random email or hear on Rush, etc, even when it strains credulity.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 8:25 p.m.

    Utah Blue Devil: If you look at the U-6 numbers the unemployment number is 14.7 percent. That is unchanged from last month. Using a survey of households to determine the overall unemployment number has not been used before, only the employer number. You may delude yourself into thinking that unemployment is better, but the numbers in this report once you get past their fraud tell a different story. We still have 23.2 million people out of work or underemployed that had full time jobs. We still have an employment participation rate that is at it's lowest level in 30 years. Our GDP growth rate is at 1.3 percent, again the lowest in over 30 years. If you understand at all what you are talking about, you can see that the actual numbers tell a different story than the fraud the Obama administration is telling us.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Oct. 5, 2012 8:02 p.m.

    Coleman51... "A survey of households to determine the numbers of people getting jobs rather than the employer numbers is unprecedented and to claim that 876,000 jobs were created from this survey is at best a guess. "

    Well, it is the way it has been done for decades. This all of a sudden "the numbers are rigged" claims is simply silly because if Obama could rig the numbers, he would have done it a long time ago. The logic that for 3 years he rigged them high, then later he rigs them lower is so illogical it makes ones head hurt trying to justify statements like this.

    I particularly love how a certain part of the population loves to believe the bad news, and yet where there is positive news... well then it is all suspect and the methodology is wrong. If the methodology is wrong with news is good, it must be equally wrong with the numbers are negative.

    Prelax... read the whole report.. July and August numbers were also revised up 40,000 plus each month. These are self reported numbers by companies themselves, and often trickle in late. Part times is not a new factor here.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 7:24 p.m.

    I notice not many Obama supporters are responding to this 7.8% news. Guess they realize that the "Truth is Out There".

    Re: Steve Warren

    The real consistency is that the unemployment rate now is exactly what it was when Obama took office almost 4 years ago. Now that's consistency!! Not progress, but consistency.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 6:08 p.m.

    These numbers are as fraudulent as they can be. A survey of households to determine the numbers of people getting jobs rather than the employer numbers is unprecedented and to claim that 876,000 jobs were created from this survey is at best a guess. There is no question that the jobs number is much lower and that is reflected by the employer numbers which has always been used before. The U-6 numbers show no change in the economy and that shows us in a recession. But fraud is rampant in the Obama campaign and shows in these numbers.

  • BU52 Provo, ut
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:20 p.m.

    Nobody (except demo spinners) have suggested killing off Big Bird, Just get him off the dole. If he's that important then he can make it in the capitalistic TV market. Afterall MSNBC hires lots of people who make less sense than a 7 foot yellow bird, he could follow-up Chris Matthews or Rev. Al.

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:17 p.m.

    Those hoping for economic gloom need to get over it...or get a job.

  • prelax Murray, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:14 p.m.

    The article said that unemployment went down .6 percent. The drop was caused by people taking part time work.

    Is this like his deportation numbers?

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:03 p.m.

    oh the season of conspiracy theories is upon us now that the election cycle is here. what a sadly predictable response from the right.

  • phillyfanatic LONG BEACH, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:53 p.m.

    I suggest that voters look at the article all over
    The NET today denouncing these numbers as being ginned up by Labor and Hilda Solis . Even the DC MSM elites laughed at her figures and she said she was OFFENDED. Well I am offended at manipulated numbers for Obama's election efforts. Jack Walsh of GE fame said these were pulled out of the air. Underemployment is near 12% and millions have left the labor force. The numbers are fake but Obama went out on the trail today lying about them and Romney and then warned anybody who would criticize 'his numbers; as talking down the economy. LOL

  • Steve C. Warren WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    This rosy new jobs report has allowed Romney to silence critics who unfairly claim he is inconsistent and a flip-flopper. Here's why: When unemployment rose, he attacked Obama. When unemployment stayed the same, he attacked Obama. Today, after unemployment dropped, he attacked Obama.

    That's consistency!

  • Fern RL LAYTON, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:31 p.m.

    Congratulations, Mr. President, just think what you could do if you tried to convince people not to apply for jobs. I, myself, probably did a great service to the economy when I quit work at age 34.

  • Common Sense Czar Sandy, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:30 p.m.

    On the topic of Big Bird getting fired...I think it's been coming for years. The bird wanders around endlessly...talks at length to others who are trying to work or learn...and seems like a trouble maker in general.

    He must be a union bird or knows someone or is related to someone who works at Sesame Street. He's under-produced for years and it's finally going to catch up to him.

  • sly_spy Oceanside, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:27 p.m.

    I'm not big on conspiracy theories but the unemployment rate dropping .3% in the month preceding the general election doesn't quite pass the sniff test.

  • Serenity Manti, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:22 p.m.

    How convenient. They make a mistake last quarter and made up for it this quarter. A little too convenient, don't you think? Besides, how may now jobs are part time seasonal workers?

  • GrandmaJulie Layton, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:20 p.m.

    The Obama White House needed to come up with something fast after his terrible debate in Colorado, so now we get MORE phony unemployment numbers. What a looser!

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:18 p.m.

    Gotta get those books cooked before the election. We have fewer people working now than we had when Obama took office, and we have a record number of people who have left the work force and simply given up. But for a populace comprised of many who don't even know who's buried in Grant's Tomb, this will be adequate to make them stay committed to their favorite politician of all time.

  • Common Sense Czar Sandy, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    Well...if the government says it...it must be so!! What fortunate timing.

  • WillTheWolf SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:17 p.m.

    Hyperbole at its finest.

  • m.g. scott LAYTON, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:16 p.m.

    It sure is going to be funny when in the next debate Romney tells America that the unemployment rate tonight at 7.8% is exactly what it was the day Obama took office. Wow, what progress. And it only took 6 trillion dollars of added debt to achieve it. Yeah, let's have four more years of that!!

  • PAC Phoenix, AZ
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:14 p.m.

    Well, It is only because the Christmas rush is comming.It will go up in January. By the way no one is canning Big bird.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 3:56 p.m.

    The headline is a bit simplistic, don't you think?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 3:46 p.m.

    It will go up by one if Big bird gets canned.

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 3:39 p.m.

    Well, there goes that GOP talking point.