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Romney on '47 percent': I was 'completely wrong'


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  • Bored to the point of THIS! Ogden, UT
    Oct. 9, 2012 1:51 p.m.

    Is this anothoer "flip-flop"? Is he sure on this one?

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Oct. 8, 2012 4:23 a.m.

    It's amazing, the amount of ignorance of tax laws people think they know. The fact is Romney is rights and the democrats and news media is twisting the facts to misrepresent what Romney said.

    The fact is 47%+ are not paying taxes and that cannot be disputed. Why they are not paying taxes is the dispute and 90% of the disputes are biased and racist and prejudiced and unjustified. BTW, free loaders was coined by the democrats, not Romney. He just said 47% are dependent on government and the legacy of Obama with 83 million out of work americans as his baggage.

    The elderly on SSA or retirement do pay yearly taxes and have no deductions or exemptions on their incomes. Retired elderly people do pay taxes.

    Romney was targeting the illegal aliens, welfare professionals, workers without jobs and business with excessive exemptions to taxation are not supporting government services like police, fire, and education most think are a right.

    So who does it leave as the freeloaders? The socialist and illegal foreign nationals.

    Taxation is a duty of all, democrats have bought votes of dependents. BTW, 90% of filers pay less than 8% in taxes, not 18%.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    Oct. 6, 2012 9:34 p.m.

    Casa Grande, AZ

    Romney should be pro universal healthcare any day now.

    Would it not be great to have a state administered program? Do you like to see people suffer and die because they cannot afford $100,000 scorpion bites?

  • jzwillows willows, ca
    Oct. 6, 2012 1:18 p.m.

    So why so many flip flops, even on his convictions? It's because his desire to win an election is a higher priority than his convictions.
    And that weakness is resulting in so many of these flip flops that he is beginning to look comedic. One too many & enough people will be repulsed that it will cost him the election. I'm surprised the democrats haven't run an add on this ridiculous flip flop.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Oct. 6, 2012 12:33 p.m.

    Romney should be pro universal healthcare any day now.

  • Screwdriver Casa Grande, AZ
    Oct. 6, 2012 12:31 p.m.

    I bet it was hard for him to wait a couple weeks before flipping. He was chomping at the flip.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 6, 2012 12:25 p.m.

    Republicans have contributed to the deficit, for example, requiring all the Bush tax cuts be extended. Additionally their games during the debt ceiling debate cost $1.3-1.7 billion.

    The president proposes a budget, (more like an outline) then the House and Senate, working in various committees apply the detail and develop the budget bill to be voted on. Republicans engaged in political theater according to a fellow of the Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute. Republicans simply took Obama's budget proposal and put it up for a vote, without the committee process, and without the necessary detail.

    It takes "two to tango." Obama hasn't had a partner across the aisle. The Republicans in Congress are more ideologically extreme than in the past. Reagan had the benefit of Democrats who were willing to compromise, and Reagan was willing to compromise too. For example, after cutting tax rates he raised taxes. During Clinton's tenure there was a govt shutdown, lasting 28 days because Clinton vetoed the Republican budget. Republican leaders stated after Obama's inauguration their goal was for Obama to fail. They set the tone going forward.

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Oct. 6, 2012 9:54 a.m.

    Mitt, you said it. We saw the video. It's all yours, buddy; we're not forgetting it and we're not going to let you run from it.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 8:50 p.m.


    So, the Republicans made Obama raise the national deficit by 45%? I'm quite certain it was Obama and the Democrats who did that. As I recall, he promised us that he would lower it by half, not raise it by almost that much.

    Was it the Republicans who forced him to submit budgets that not even a single member of his OWN party would vote for? Kind of hard to balance a budget when you can't even get a vote of confidence from your own party. But it does speak volumes about your lack of leadership skills and your understanding of economics. Not one single vote from his OWN party. Ouch!

    I'd also like to point out that both Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton were successful at leading even when the opposition party held Congress. They had that skill set. Obama is not an effective leader. But, then again, effective leaders don't take all the praise and pass all the blame. They stand up and take responsibility for everything that happens on their watch.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 8:33 p.m.


    Sorry, you can't play your George W. card with me -- I didn't vote for him.

    My point is that Obama is very quick to take credit for things that go well (Did he shoot Bin Laden? Did he gather the info on his whereabouts? Nope. But he sure is quick to take the credit for it). But, like a teenager, he absolutely refuses to take responsibility for things that go wrong.

    On his watch, unemployment raised from 7.8% February 2009 to over 8% and stayed there until today when he finally got them back to 7.8%. On his watch, the average American household has lost 50% of its wealth. On his watch, we have increased our national debt by 45% instead of cutting it like he promised. He also promised to repeal the Patriot Act and close Gitmo. But he quietly signed an extension for the Patriot Act and allocated even more money for Gitmo. HE did that.

    His party controlled Congress for 2 out of the 3 1/2 years of his term. They had enough power to push through Obamacare. So, when will Barry take responsibility for HIS Presidency?

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Oct. 5, 2012 7:47 p.m.

    Patriot said "HA.. I actually thought what Mitt said was right on the dime. Freeloaders and victims make up the bulk of the Obama zombies. What else is new ?"

    Then next we will hear how he is a puppet for all the Wall Street types that support him. If one story doesn't work, try another one. Don't worry that they contradict each other. The important part is to have cute little zingers that are supposed to prove...... not sure yet what they prove.

    Patriot.... look at the numbers, please. Really... not politically and ratings driven pseudo news.

    Fresno Girl.... lets look at it this way. We are driving down the road really fast, the driver took reckless chances (banking deregulation), the car ran off the road and caused a bunch of damage. We turn the car over to someone else to get us back on track, but now we aren't goings as fast as we used to. So now people want to turn the keys back over to the same people who got us in the wreck in the first place, even knowing he will undo the safeties that were put in place.

    Does that make sense?

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 6:19 p.m.

    I think we need to have a debate where just all the Mitt Romney's can get up and debate the many conflicting points of view. the only problem is I am not sure there is a stage big enough to hold them all.

  • rapaz11 Sitka, AK
    Oct. 5, 2012 6:15 p.m.

    Mitt Romney only regrets getting caught saying what he said. Ask him tomorrow what he thinks about it and I'm sure he will give a different answer. What on earth does this guy really believe in?

  • boxerdog915 Clearfield, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:52 p.m.

    He wasn't wrong, he was completely right!! He is only backtracking to appease the voters. Sounds like a typical politician to me. Apologizing for the truth! What has this nation come too????

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:52 p.m.

    His comments were at very best, stupid. At worst they were lies.

    Does he now apologize for his stupidity or for being a liar?

    Would we rather have a stupid president or a lying president?

    How about a lying, stupid president?

  • one vote Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 5:25 p.m.

    Sometimes you don't need to say what people want to hear. Even fat cats for 50 large.

  • LValfre CHICAGO, IL
    Oct. 5, 2012 4:30 p.m.


    "HA.. I actually thought what Mitt said was right on the dime. Freeloaders and victims make up the bulk of the Obama zombies. What else is new ?"

    Considering the enormous amount of rich and wealthy on his side, your claim doesn't hold its ground.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    HA.. I actually thought what Mitt said was right on the dime. Freeloaders and victims make up the bulk of the Obama zombies. What else is new ?

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 5, 2012 3:09 p.m.

    "he still made over 923 executive orders in 3 1/2yrs (21.98 a month) to by pass congress. More than all the past presidents combined. "

    Wow, do you folks even bother the fact check things before posting?

    I am pretty sure that you can find things that are true to beat up Obama over. Why resort to these easily proven lies?

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:50 p.m.

    This is why I support Mitt Romney. He does not come across as a know it all who believer in his own opinions so much that he cannot change for the better. Grid lock will be a thing of the past and more right decisions will be made by our government under his leadership than in recent memory. We will prosper as never before under his presidency. The debates will continue to show who he really is and I will ignore things said in the past. He masterfully overcame the primaries that were designed in hell to prevent good from being accomplished. I am convinced that what we are seeing now is the real deal.

  • bballjunkie Pleasant Grove, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:50 p.m.

    It to bad that Mitt has to say sorry...becasue he is right and if all the obama lovers want to talk about a flip flopper then look no further than obama, I love the how he tried to change his tone on all those promises that he made 4 years ago that even gave him the chance to be in the oval office. But obama fans are either blind to the truth or theyu are part of the 47 percent who want another 4 years of free loading. Wake up or be ready to keeep this joke of a president in for another 4 years so we can pay $7.00 dollers a gallon... or have you all found away to get the goverment to cover that cost for you as well.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:49 p.m.


    From the Bureau of Labor Statistics:
    Unemployment rate


    Obama only had a filibuster-proof majority 72, (not consecutive) days. Actually he accomplished quite a bit considering Republican's "do-nothing" uniform opposition. The only group which has a lower rating than Congress are Republican legislators.

  • Belching Cow Sandy, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:43 p.m.

    What are you doing Mitt? This was a big mistake, you don't have anything to apologize for. We need a president with some backbone and this action did not show you have one.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:20 p.m.

    To ProudUtahn 1:17 p.m. Oct. 5, 2012

    I've seen the viral email you must be referencing with the claim that President Obama has signed over 900 executive orders. It is a bald-faced lie. The viral email that claims Obama has signed 900 executive orders lists 13 orders as evidence, all of which previous presidents signed in the 1960s and 1970s. President Obama has signed 139.

    Presidents number their executive orders consecutively. The first executive order that President Obama signed was EO-13489, which dealt with presidential records. Obama’s predecessors signed any executive order with a number lower than 13489. The first executive order the email lists and attributes to Obama is 10990, which John F. Kennedy signed in 1962. The order reestablished a council to oversee safety of civilian federal employees. It did not — as the email claims — allow a government takeover of the nation’s seaports, highways and other modes of transportation. Gerald Ford signed the last executive order listed, 11921, which updated how various federal departments and agencies prepare and respond to national emergencies.

    A complete list of executive orders can be found on the WhiteHouse website.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:15 p.m.


    First of all, it should be noted, I didn't vote for George W..

    Yes, the recession started there, but on Obama's watch unemployment went from 7.8% in Feb 2009 to 8.3% and stayed there until just today when it FINALLY returned to 7.8%, the average American household lost its wealth by 50% and the number of Americans on food stamps have increased by 10 million. I don't know what the President has been doing, but it was not fixing the economy. The economy got worse and worse under his watch.

    Romney is taking heat for flip-flopping, but let's review Obama's record: In 2008, he promised to repeal the Patriot Act, close Gitmo, decrease our national deficit by half and fix the economy. Instead, he signed an extension to the Patriot Act, allocated more money to Gitmo, increased the deficit by 45% and further killed the economy. His party controlled Congress for 2 years out of the 3 1/2 he's been in office and they had enough power to push through Obamacare. So, why can't he be a grown-up and take responsibility for HIS Presidency?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:10 p.m.

    @ SS
    "How can you honestly believe that Obama can turn anything around when you have NO evidence to back it with."

    31 straight months of private sector job gains, unemployment now at 7.8% after a high of around 10%, stock market gaining 40% or so since Obama got into office?

    "All facts show from the last four years is that America is 6 trillion dollars more in debt to other countries"

    Which is why I want to end the wars, reign in defense spending (which doubled under Bush), and get rid of the Bush tax cuts on everyone. After all, the largest drivers of the deficit are the recession, the tax cuts, wars/defense spending increases, and increases in entitlement spending. You care a lot about the deficit... so I'll ask you, how is Romney going to cut a trillion dollars of spending? He wants lower taxes, he wants more defense spending, he wants to get rid of Obamacare but if he restores Medicare spending and gets rid of Obamacare taxes then it doesn't reduce the deficit (CBO analysis) and he wants to go after Big Bird. Where's the deficit reduction? Arithmetic would be appreciated.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:09 p.m.

    To SS 1:36 p.m. Octo 5, 2012

    In case you haven't figured it out yet, Romney IS one of the biggest liars in the history of political arenas. He showed that clearly in the debate. Romney is the liar and the flip-flopper. He is the candidate that the United States absolutely doesn't need (I don't like and don't want Obama and won't be voting for him, but Romney is much, much worse). It amazes me that people ignore that fact.

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:06 p.m.

    "President Obama having a democartic house and senate to start, he still made over 923 executive orders in 3 1/2yrs"

    If you rely on chain e-mails as a source of info you will not only be misinformed but perpetuating blatant lies.

    Obama has not issued 900 executive orders. He has signed slightly fewer orders than President George W. Bush during this point in his first term, according to the University of California, Santa Barbara, which tracks executive orders. Obama has issued 139 executive orders as of Sept. 25. (The U.C. website listed 138 orders on Sept. 25, the same day Obama signed order 139). Bush issued 160 executive orders through Sept. 20, 2004, a comparable amount of time.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:06 p.m.

    "How many politicians do you know who apologize and admit to being wrong? "

    A lot when the thing they're disavowing is something that was severely harming them in the polls.

    "he still made over 923 executive orders in 3 1/2yrs (21.98 a month) to by pass congress. "

    That's false. I assume you got that from a chain e-mail? Well that was factchecked by Politifact where they noted Obama has signed 139 (as of Sept 24). Those sample ones in the e-mail that are alleged to be from Obama... they aren't... those are all from previous presidents, mostly those from the 70s-80s. Bush had signed 160 in the first equivalent number of days that Obama signed the 139. FDR signed the most of any president.

    Basically, factcheck shocking claims. A lot of them (from the left and the right) aren't true.

    @ SS
    "I can't believe how many lefties are on here trying to tear down Romney and defending one of the biggest liars in the history of political arenas. "

    That doesn't make sense. You can't defend Romney (one of the biggest liars in politics) while criticizing him.

  • Pete1215 Lafayette, IN
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:03 p.m.

    Let's see. People are dis-encouraged from something if they are punished for it. Romney, mathematically, says the truth and is punished. The effect of this will be?

  • On the other hand Spanish Fork, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 2:02 p.m.

    Folks, Romney was simply brainwashed regarding 47% of Americans. Now he's seen the light.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 1:59 p.m.

    @ SS
    "If every single word you said were recorded and displayed before the entire country would you be found as saying things that contradict yourself? "

    Absolutely, but when confronted by it I'd make clear if I said something wrong and what I stood by. The reason I hold this against Romney is that if he sincerely misspoke, he wouldn't have stood by the remarks when he held his press conference when this became a story.

    "It takes a man to admit when he's wrong."

    I guess that means he was wrong about the job creators being overburdened with taxation, now that he's claiming that his tax plan doesn't reduce taxes on the wealthy.

    @Anti Government
    "The libs complain he said it and now they complain he admitted his mistake and he is a flip flopper for it."

    Because we have no reason to believe he's being sincere.

    "Do you ever see them donate additional taxes if they are so rich and believe it is the right thing to do? "

    I'll get right on that when conservatives give up gov't services since they want to cut spending.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2012 1:36 p.m.

    I can't believe how many lefties are on here trying to tear down Romney and defending one of the biggest liars in the history of political arenas. How can you honestly believe that Obama can turn anything around when you have NO evidence to back it with. All facts show from the last four years is that America is 6 trillion dollars more in debt to other countries like China and studies show that the deficit will reach 20 trillion in the next four years following Obama's policies. If you want your children and grandchildren to be slaves to other countries then by all means, elect Obama. I can't believe people can be such hypocrites. Be mad at Romney for this, but when Obama says "If I don't cut the deficit in half in the next four years than this will be a one term proposition." Yet, he is still running for president. Isn't that flip flopping? There is your etcha-sketch.

    Oct. 5, 2012 1:34 p.m.

    I wish he would have said that 47 percent of Americans either think they are entitled to other people's money or think that others are entitled to other people's money, and that we should ignore those people. That would have been a more accurate statement, and I would have become an extremely enthusiastic supporter of Romney for saying so.

    The statement, as actually stated, was wrong no matter how you slice it, but I'm still not voting for Obama.

  • mightymite DRAPER, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 1:19 p.m.

    He would have done better to keep quiet on this. His handlers are not the best, he needs a new team.

  • ProudUtahn St. George, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2012 1:17 p.m.

    Analogy! there is a small fire in your house as well as your great friend and next door neighbors home! which fire would you fight first? Logic states you fight yours and when yours is out and your comfortable with your situation you are better capable to focus on assisting your neighbor with no hinderance. The worlds economies are on fire, the US at all levels are on fire. We need to make hard decissions to make us comfortable in our situation to better focus at a later date on others. To many people are not helping charities etc. today because of the new thought process that government will take care of it. Though government is at a higher cost.
    Pending Mitt Romney gets elected and he has a congress that will work with his Ideas. I feel Mitt is the best choice. Unlike President Obama having a democartic house and senate to start, he still made over 923 executive orders in 3 1/2yrs (21.98 a month) to by pass congress. More than all the past presidents combined. George W. Bush was the next highest with 62 in 8 years (0.64 a month). Problem?

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2012 1:13 p.m.

    Time's a' running out...
    Gotta try everything at this point, eh' Mitt?

  • Conner Johnson
    Oct. 5, 2012 1:06 p.m.

    Can I get a FLIP-FLOP.... Just who we thought you were Mitt!

  • spudnut West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 1:03 p.m.

    "I meant what I said and I said what I meant; an elephant's honest, one-hundred percent."

  • louie Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:58 p.m.

    Romney's biggest lament is that he actually said what he really thinks and feels.

  • ProudUtahn St. George, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:54 p.m.

    One can twist anything to mean what ones belief is, or to demean the statement.
    12 people hear the same speaker and experience the same event at the same time, I dought you would have more than 3 agree as to the meaning or recounting of said event when interviewed seperatly. Who was at the event when Mitt Romney talked about the 47%? I would guess (none)
    read in context and quit beleiving the media and hype (this goes on both sides) Look for facts before your emotions burry you. One tax issue - family on food stamps, wic, rent assitance, gas assitance(I dont have a problem with temporaraly),makes enough money only to withhold say $20 in federal with holding. Files tax return and gets $4000.00 in fed tax return with child and other credits. I believe they should only get the $20.00 back that was withheld, that the tax law should not alow to go beyond zero. emotions aside I believe Mitt Romney is spot on in his assesment.

  • Henry Drummond San Jose, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:44 p.m.

    Mr. Romney has spent the better part of six years courting the Republican right-wing with statements such as the infamous "47%" remark. There are endless others on immigration reform, social security, medicare, collective bargaining rights, tax policy, health care, not to mention his rather unique ideas on foreign affairs. Does he really think he's going to get anywhere by spending the final month of the campaign trying to convince us he didn't really mean it?

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:38 p.m.

    He waits until two weeks after the story broke and tons of negative publicity and now he wants to run as the champion of the 47%? Mitt must be stupendously cynical about the credulity of the American public. You can't squeeze toothpaste back into the toothpaste tube.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:38 p.m.

    Let's not jump to hasty conclusions. Strictly speaking, Mitt did not apologize for anything. He simply stated that he had been "completely wrong". Admitting you we're wrong it not an apology.

    And he did not specify precisely what he said that was wrong, or why It was wrong. For all we know, he feels he was wrong because it is actually 46.5% of Americans he believes:
    - "are dependent upon government"
    - "believe that they are victims"
    - "believe the government has a responsibility to care for them"
    - "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it -- that that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them."
    - "they will vote for this president no matter what"
    - "they [can never be convinced that they ] should take personal responsibility and care for their lives"

    So, if you like Mitt the unapologetic ("No Apology: the Case for American Greatness"), then you can hold onto your image of Mitt.

    And if you like Mitt the "real man who can admit when he's wrong", then you can retain your unblemished opinion of Mitt, too!

    He's all things to all people!

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:35 p.m.

    Give him some time. I suspect that privately Romney will apologize for apologizing.

    Only this time, he may sweep the room for recording devices.

  • SammyB Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:29 p.m.

    You who are without fault of a poor remark want to go ahead and throw your stones...oh wait, you already did. Recorded in secret, what hypocrites.

    How many politicians do you know who apologize and admit to being wrong? What a great quality in a man and rare in a politician.

    His point, though horribly stated, was one I agree with. We are almost to the tipping point with federal employees and those getting benefits who believe they are entitled (not the truly needy). Those of you who have said Obama is not a socialist have not studied his history or do not know the definition of socialism. Four more years of Obama and we will reach the number that will assure socialism. The Constitution will in effect be gone.

  • HaHaHaHa Othello, WA
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:27 p.m.

    "when exactly do you believe the recession started."

    What exactly is your point? That the recession and bad economy lasted a lot longer under BHO then GWB?

    This is the disappointing thing about Romney. He wasn't "completely" wrong, he was almost exactly right! Why go back on that now. 47% pay no income taxes,....not even arguable! Now where he was wrong, is to say that 100% of that 47% have the victim attitude, and are completely in the tank for BHO. The real number is probably more like 75% of the 47%. That is the point he needed to clear up. He was more right, then he was wrong!

  • embarrassed Utahn! Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    I think it's odd that Des News hasn't run the story about Romney's position on "Advanced Interrogation Techiniques". It is pertinent information that all Mitt supporters should know. Also, WHY was my earlier comment on the subject rejected? I followed your guidelines explicitly.

  • Fred44 Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:22 p.m.

    Does he still feel the same way but wishes he hadn't said what he said, or does he understand what he said was not only wrong, but inaccurate and hurtful.

    It is never right to make generalized statements about people. You don't know what there circumstances are, you don't know how they arrived where they are at. We have a whole bunch of service men and women who have given their best on our behalf that are homeless that are facing personal demons caused by their service to this country, that are not paying taxes. They are not victims we as a country are in their debt and we should be taking better care of them. Many current and former military men and women are part of the 47% that does not pay taxes. If Mr. Romney truly understood the error in his belief, he would talk about those people. He might even propose using some of that increase in military spending he wants to help them.

    They way he made this apology seems like he did it for political purposes to try and put the comment behind him not because he understands his error.

  • WHAT NOW? Saint George, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 12:00 p.m.

    100's of comments supporting the original 47% comment...

    and yes toygunboy, you were right there...

    100's of comments excoriating President Obama for apologizing...

    and yes toygunboy, you were right there...

    Now romney, the personification of plutocracy, is apologizing for his 47% comment?

    No comments from rabid right wing zealots excoriating romney for apologizing?

    No comments from right wing zealots repudiating romney for backing away from his original rediculous 47% comments?

  • Truthseeker SLO, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:39 a.m.


    So Mitt doesn't think all non-taxpayers have the victim mentality and expect govt. to take care of them?

    But Mitt, Republicans here have been defending your comments! Govt. creates dependency don't you know?

    Who are Republicans going to vote for now?

    btw If Romney follows his plan to repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax, he will save himself the $674,000+ in AMT taxes he paid last year.

  • Anti Government Alpine, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    The libs complain he said it and now they complain he admitted his mistake and he is a flip flopper for it.

    As usual, playing both sides.

    Just shows they are nothing but biased liberal hacks with an agenda. Anything to beat down the opponent. Kind of like the debates the other night...they had nothing at all show up so they send out an attack dog and call Romney a "liar".

    I guess when you see momentum shift you get desperate and have to do something. The President had nothing and they know it.

    Romney said the 47% thing once. Obama is on the record alot saying he wants to "share the wealth" "spread it around" and there is no mistaking the dude is a blatant socialist. Take from those who work and produce and give it to those who won't.

    Always do as I say not as I do though with liberals. Do you ever see them donate additional taxes if they are so rich and believe it is the right thing to do? I mean they trust the govt will spend their money well so I am not sure what is stopping them.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:26 a.m.

    @Rifleman "It takes a man to admit when he's wrong. Probably why you don't see Obama doing it."

    Ummm,so when Romney decides apologizing is cool, admitting he said something wrong... Obama goes from the "apologizer-n-Chief" to someone who doesn't apologize enough.

    Good grief... this is wrose than first grade. One would hope that the conversaion could move on beyond "I know you are but what am I" to something more substansive, like which economic model actually works, is American ready to open a third war in the middle east, or how dow we get to a balanced budget.

    No, instead, we are stuck grovelling in the mudd with "I am rubber - your are glue".

    These guys are more in common than the political rhetoric would ever let you beleive. It is time for the gamesmanship to end, and statesmanship to take the stage.

  • Glfklee Santa Fe, NM
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    At this point I don't have a dog in the fight:

    Mitts reversal is purely political with time running out. His 47% statement (the WHOLE statement, not the soundbite alone) is his true belief of the landscape of America. In short, out of touch or least oblivious to how the true middle and struggling lower class live.

    I have my share of Obama comments, so don't think I am being one sided here.

  • Voice of Reason Layton, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:23 a.m.

    My opinion of Romney just went down a notch, since this "apology" was obviously driven by politics. Anyone with a teaspoon of brain matter knows he was talking about not worrying about the VOTES of that 47% - he obviously wasn't saying he simply "didn't care" about half the country. Nobody being honest with themselves truly believes that. And that's exactly what he should have stuck to. Even Obama knows this; he knew that if he tried that cheap shot in a debate format, with Romney able to defend himself directly, would have been disastrous.

    Now, if only Obama would start apologizing for the trail of economy and jobs-killing policies he's left behind after four years, instead of apologizing for his nation overseas, then maybe we could turn this nation around and start repairing the damage of the last 4 years. Either way, fixing this mess BO has left behind is going to take a long time.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:04 a.m.

    But Rifleman, when he said it, you thought he was spot on. So which is it? Was he right when he said it or is he right now that he says he was wrong? Basically, partisan Republicans are going to say he is right whatever he says. Which makes absolutely no sense. Talk about Etch a Sketch. Romney is now moving to the center. Question is, which Romney would govern if he won? This new Romney is great. Problem is, that isn't the Romney that we've been hearing from for the past 6 years.

  • The Real Maverick Orem, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    flip flop flip flop....

    Some will never learn...

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:57 a.m.

    And one more thing. In the debate, Mitt mentioned his sons.

    well, I was just wondering what kind of a man throws his kids under the bus by telling everyone they lie, and does it for the trite purpose of chalking up a zinger in the debate?

    Sometimes it seems Mitt says things to benefit himself without regard or consideration for how it harms others, even those supposedly closest to him. That does not strike me as a desirable trait in a President, much less an avowed Christian.

  • I M LDS 2 Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:55 a.m.

    If we stretch the concept of "apology" as broad as possible, and take every one of Mitt's position reversals as an acknowledgement that he was "completely wrong", then Mitt has got to be the most mistaken man ever to run for POTUS, and the most apologetic one, too!

    Then how can he attack Obama for being overly apologetic?

    Mitt, you are not adding up or making sense.

  • Furry1993 Ogden, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:44 a.m.

    He's sorry that he got caught. It was pretty clear from the video that he meant what he said. The person making the comment on the video was the truthful Mitt. Now he's finding out that his (truthful) comment is hampering his chances for election. So -- he just does what he usually does -- Flip. Flop. Flip. Flop. And on and on and on.

    This is NOT what the country and its people need.

  • Rifleman Salt Lake City, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:40 a.m.

    Re: atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    "He's only doing this because it was hurting him in the polls."

    It takes a man to admit when he's wrong. Probably why you don't see Obama doing it.

  • UtahBlueDevil Durham, NC
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:39 a.m.

    @fresnogirl - when exactly do you believe the recession started... since you disagree with Obama on that. Would love to know.

    What I am more interested to hear from fall those on who post here, who agreed with the 47% comments, now position themselves. Romney was big enough to say he was wrong. Will all those other "conservatice" take the mia culpa as well... or continually and doggidly try to deamonize those they feel superiour too.

    Interesting and good step forward. It is the moving of Mitt back to the center-right. Lets see how far he gets to move.

  • ICareAboutUtah West Jordan, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:20 a.m.

    It is really becoming obvious that Governor Romney will say whatever he thinks he needs to say depending on who he is speaking to. The problem that America has is that we don't know who the real Mitt Romney is. I wish he would have just been himself. It probably would have worked out better for him.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:14 a.m.

    Has Obama? Or any other politician? Let me ask you a question directly. If every single word you said were recorded and displayed before the entire country would you be found as saying things that contradict yourself? You can't play that card when comparing ANY politician.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:12 a.m.

    He's only doing this because it was hurting him in the polls. If he really thought it was wrong he'd have said as much when he had his impromptu press conference the day it went viral to say it was wrong but instead he stood by it, merely calling it inelegantly put.

  • MormonDem Provo, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 10:09 a.m.

    Shake shake shake that etch-a-sketch.

  • fresnogirl Fresno, CA
    Oct. 5, 2012 9:57 a.m.

    He should have just blame George W. -- that's what Obama always does....

  • Roland Kayser Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Oct. 5, 2012 9:37 a.m.

    Has Mr. Romney ever said anything that he didn't later reverse of modify?