Published: Friday, Oct. 5 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
"it will literally destroy all of the alternative health care systems. All
of the existing health insurance companies will be put out of business."Are you suggesting that these things happened in Massachusetts? If
not, then your claim is unsupportable.
"When Obamacare gets fully entrenched it will literally destroy all of the
alternative health care systems. All of the existing health insurance companies
will be put out of business.”Blaine obviously does not
comprehend the ACA, which will ADD 30 million new customers to the insurance
companies' rolls. It's unfortunate that Congress didn't enact a
single-payer system like expanded Medicare for all Americans, not just those
over 65. But even that would not necessarily destroy private health insurance,
as insurance companies could offer private plans to cover medical costs not
covered under Medicare, as they do now.
Romneycare IS the same as "Obamacare". Obamacare is directly derived
from Romneycare, which was enacted in reliance on a proposed program developed
by the ultra-conservative (far right wing) Heritage Foundation. Romneycare, at
the behest of the Republicans, even has the mandate which requires everyone to
have insurance. I really find it amusing that the far right is now contending
against the exact program the proposed to counter Hillary Clinton's health
care initiative. That appears quite hypocritical to me.
The letter is one huge AM radio hyperbole.But all I can say is the
letter writer has NEVER;Lived in another State, Never lost a
job, Never had someone in his family he's responsible for all ill.Maybe he should consider himself "Lucky" in life, and stop
being so condesending and judgemental of those who haven't been so blessed
and perhaps showing some compassion [i.e., putting yourself in someone elses
shoes] and think about the other 350 Million Americans instead of just himself
and his circumstances.
Obamacare is not about "care", it is about allowing the federal
government to take another 18% of our income. The debate made it very clear
that a fifteen person government panel would make all "health care
decisions". Under Romney's plan, the doctors and hospitals were free
to make all health-care decisions. Under Obamacare, one size has to fit
everyone. Under Romney's plan, you could pick and choose any insurance
plan that met your needs. The biggest problem, as Romney also
pointed out, is that the 10th Amendment requires that healthcare be left to the
States; it is not a duty of the Federal Government. Obama ignores the
Constitution. He wants that 18% so badly that he would set aside the
Constitution and his oath of office to uphold the Constitution to get his hands
on the money.It is already evident that Obamacare has cost each
family an average of $2,500 in higher premiums and that it will cost hundreds of
thousands of jobs, if fully implemented. When no one is working, who will pay
" it is about allowing the federal government to take another 18% of our
income."How much of our income was taken when Mr Bush and the
GOP congress instituted Medicare Part D?What was the cost to our income
and deficit when we decided to start wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?How much
of our income is taken when healthcare costs continue to rise exponentially?Mike, I can appreciate your concern for government spending. What I do
not understand is that you seem to only rail against the govt spending when the
Dems do it. You seem to think that if we all vote "R" that
the same kind of spending will not continue. There is not anything the
Obama has done that is any more "socialistic" than what past Republicans
have done. That certainly applies to healthcare.In reality, the
country does not run much different no matter who is in control.I
never understand why people are so enamored with their party, either right or
left.And you are as immersed in that ideology as much as anyone I know.I just don't get it.
Mike, there is no one size fits all with regards to Obamacare. It uses private
insurance companies. The companies are the ones that determine what is covered,
what isn't, what levels of coverage to allow and so forth.Obamacare is a boon to the insurance companies. There are no options within
Obamacare that do not use those insurance companies. This is the same as it is
with Romneycare.The 15% that you hear on the radio has been debunked
but the talking heads just ignore it to cause simple minded listeners to freak
out and avoid wanting Obamacare (Even though it was there idea).The
IRS has stated that they will not enforce any penalty tax on someone who
doesn't buy insurance. If they won't enforce it, then it isn't a
penalty because there is nothing to force you to purchase it.Obamacare hasn't even gone into effect but people are blaming it for
increasing the costs of healthcare. How can something that isn't there
raising rates? Once the new additions are made, the costs will decrease as the
burden expands beyond the current users.
One painted red and the other is painted blue. It's the same car of
conservative design.If you don't like Obamacare you should call
the Heritage Foundation.
And Romney was taking credit for being the "grandfather" of Obamacare
until those in his base learned that he was bragging about his "moderate
credentials" before a general audience. Romney is many things to
many people. As Andrew Sullivan wrote in the Daily Beast, Romney is very
skilled at closing the deal. The first debate was critical. He rose up,
according to Michael Gerson, but now is having to backtrack on various
statements he made in appealing to the millions of people watching. His
"moderate" views expressed in the debate have upset many in his Party.
They don't understand that he was only doing what was necessary to
"close the deal".Romney is notorious for telling his
audience what they want to hear. He is good at varying his message to suit the
prospective customer. However, one can be certain that his plan is always to
adhere to the ultimate goal of reducing taxes on the rich and cutting the costs
of government by eliminating programs the poor and middle-class have come to
depend on.He, like the missionary who gets the door slammed in his
face, just picks up and moves to the next house.
This letter is a wonderful example of one of the major problems with many
letters that are selected for print.Inaccuracy of facts does not
disqualify letters being printed.
Re:Mike RichardsRomney repeatedly claimed that a new government
board was “going to tell people ultimately what kind of treatments they
can have.” Not true. It could make some binding recommendations about such
things as what drugs or medical devices would be paid for by Medicare, but it
has no legal power to dictate treatment or ration care.The board is
a 15-member panel that’s tasked with finding ways to slow the growth of
Medicare spending. So, its work concerns Medicare, not everyone seeking health
care. And, according to the law, the board can’t touch treatments or
otherwise “ration” care, or restrict benefits.
The letter forgot to mention that Obamacare will usher in the Zombie Apocalypse.
Those who have taken the time to read the Obamacare bill from cover to cover and
then taken the time to note the problems with the bill will never want
Obamacare. We are NOT free to change insurance companies. A
"secretary" will decide who is covered and what is covered. The
government has listed the cost of healthcare at 18%, which will be funnelled
into the treasury as Obamacare ramps up and as people are forced to buy
insurance from the government.The IRS WILL collect the tax. The IRS
collects taxes from those who owe them - no matter what lies Obama tells us
about Obamacare NOT being a tax and, now that it has been declared a tax by the
Supreme Court, that he will not enforce the collection of that tax. Just how
does he propose to pay for the services, by writing rubber checks as he has done
for $5 TRILLION of expenditures?Just because Obama said that it is
based on Romney's bill doesn't make it true. Read Obamacare.
Don't be fooled by Obama's lies.
"When Obamacare gets fully entrenched it will literally destroy all of the
alternative health care systems." If only.Seems to me this is
the major problem with American health care. We have too many systems. And even
with all of them, we still leave millions of people out in the cold.Folks, we don't have to reinvent the wheel. There are, right now, 40 or
50 health-care systems in the world that we could simply adopt and be far better
off than we are with our schizophrenic hodge-podge of health-care chaos. We pay
twice as much per capita as the next most expensive system and are ranked lower
than several Third World countries. Yes, we are exceptional. And we'll be
more so if the Republicans take over.
Mike Richards South Jordan, Utah"The biggest problem, as Romney
also pointed out, is that the 10th Amendment requires that healthcare be left to
the States; it is not a duty of the Federal Government."From
your ideological and conservative interpretation of the Constitution, can I
assume that you are opposed to both Social Security and Medicare? It appears
that you would want these two programs eliminated and the states develop
something similar for their respective residents.Just to be
accurate, you oppose any program not specifically mandated in the Constitution
as you interpret it, is that correct? So you oppose public funding of
EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING beyond defense? You don't like the interstate
transit program under Eisenhower? You don't like the EPA under Nixon? And
we've already mentioned that you don't like Medicare under Lyndon
Johnson.Does this mean that if Utah develops excellent programs for
its residents, people from other states should move there to take advantage of
these good programs? It could be like moving across state borders looking for
the best health insurance. One could almost see Utah replacing Florida as an
ideal retirement destination.
"The citizens of Massachusetts like it. They voted for it."Massachusetts citizens did not vote for it. The State Legislature voted for
it, just as the U.S. legislature (Congress) voted for Obamacare. But you're
right to say citizens of Massachusetts like it, just as U.S.citizens will like
the very similar Obamacare once it is fully implemented."All of
the existing health insurance companies will be put out of business. All of
their employees will be laid off; equipment and facilities will be sold or
discarded and when they are gone it will be almost impossible to get them
back."True, but health insurance companies don't provide
health care, they merely create mountains of insurance paperwork as they drive
up costs by competing for the preferred customers and try to disqualify the
less-attractive customers. Perhaps the laid-off employees will find new job
opportunities in a more vigorous health-care industry that focuses on health
care rather than health insurance.
This letter is completely useless. All Glenn Beck/Faux News/AM radio gloom and
doom. You know, Romney didn't implement Romneycare because he thought the
idea was bad, he actually believed in it, but just like every other idea the man
has had he switched positions on it when he found that it hindered his never
ending campaign for president. Imagine that, he flip flopped again and you all
just can't admit it.
"All of the existing health insurance companies will be put out of
You know the biggest difference between Obamacare and Romneycare? One was
passed while Obama was president, so it is BAD. The other one was passed while
Romney was governor, so it is GOOD. Anything Obama = BAD. Anything Republican
= GOOD. Until Obama proposes it. Then it is BAD.
Salsa,You either agree with the Constitution or you reject it.
Nobody has the right to redefine it. Your rethoric tells us that you reject the
Constitution. Article 1, Section 8 lists The authorized duties of Congress.
The 10th Amendment tells us that ALL duties not authorized ate left to the
States or to the people. You're either for the Constitution or you're
against it. Since you're not FOR the Constitution, just what are you for?
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