Published: Thursday, Oct. 4 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
After this year's totally shameful and disgraceful DNC, I will never again
vote for a Democrat, ever. As an LDS Christian, I was totally and completely
offended by the utter contempt shown towards my God and His holy place of birth
by what was clearly a majority of those present. This was not some radical
left-wing gathering of the fringe; this was the DNC! As mainstream and official
as you can get for the Democratic Party. Whatever faults the Republican Party
may have, I will from this day forth vote for a Republican every time before I
vote Democrat. I will gladly wait for something better than the very imperfect
Republicanism, but rest assured I will never, ever vote for a Democrat again.
counter -- Perhaps I should have said "critical thinking."
@ lost in DC"Hank,and BO is going right along with the
corporate plutocracy of which you speak with his solyndra and other examples of
crony capitalism."Yes. He is. Its all part of the plan when you
vote for an Ivy Leaguer.@ Mike Richards 2:48 p.m. Oct. 4, 2012Sayeth the expect when it comes to cherry picking facts.
@Mike Richards"Why did Matheson abandon the people in the 2nd
district?"This isn't true, and you know it. Jim Matheson
didn't abandon the people in the 2nd district, the State Legislature
gerrymandered away a significant chunk of the 2nd district, so that it bears
little resemblance to the historical 2nd district."Why did he
abandon those citizens who stood with him as he voted with Pelosi?"Truth is, Matheson doesn't vote with Pelosi all that often, and Chaffetz
& Bishop occasionally vote with Pelosi, too. As a "Blue Dog",
Matheson is one of the most conservative Democrats in Congress."Matheson tried to 'cherry pick' a district."No, Utah
Republicans tried to make Matheson unelectable through gerrymandering, and he is
just not rolling over to their unethical practice.
@killpack, the DNC doesn't speak for Utah Democrats, most of whom believe
in God and consider Israel an important ally.And Jesus was born in
Bethlehem, in Roman-occupied Palestine.
We individually believe how we do because of the experiences we have and how we
were raised. I appreciate the diversity that each one of us contributes, because
if we were all the same things would not be very interesting. I appreciate the
debate that comes from the various parties because I believe it makes the
country stronger. Debate is what built this country; from the documentation
I've read, the founding fathers had extremely heated and spirited debates
about what needed to be included in the constitution. None of them got
everything they wanted, but they all got something they agreed to and upheld. As
we debate what the USA needs to move forward, it seems like it would be helpful
to keep focused on the issues, even as we all argue with one another. Instead of
lobbying personal attacks at any side, maybe we could try lobbying some
well-thought-out solutions along with some respect. Nobody has all the power or
all the answers, but working together we can continue to grow and build
something wonderful. I think we can agree on some things, so lets look at those
more and give the others a rest.
On the other hand,If the DNC doesn't speak for you as a
Democrat, then why are you still a Democrat. The DNC is the Democratic party. It
doesn't matter where you live. It's time for God fearing Democrats,
living in Utah or not, to call themselves something else. When the majority of a
group you affiliate with starts to boo God, it would probably behoove you, as a
Christian, to no longer affiliate with that group. As a Christian Republican
myself, if the Republican Party were to even question the importance of God at
any of their own official gatherings, I would be deeply offended and would
question my own affiliation with such a group. If a majority of Republicans on
the other hand, booed my God, openly and without shame at the RNC for instance,
I wouldn't walk, I would run away from the Republican Party. Period.
@killpack -- Two things: !. I would guess you never were going to vote for a
Democrat anyway, and 2. How did the DNC show contempt for "His holy place
of birth"? Strange comment.
Wonder,I have voted for Democrats in the past. But you are dead
wrong in guessing that, before the DNC, I wouldn't have voted Democrat
anyway. Why? For the very simple fact, that before this year's DNC, I never
said I wouldn't vote Democrat. It wasn't until AFTER the DNC, where I
observed behavior totally offensive to my Christian sensibilities, that I vowed
to never again vote for a Democrat, ever. Jerusalem is not only considered holy
by Muslims and Jews. For Christians, it is where our Lord and Savior was born,
it is where He walked and performed miracles, and it is where He was Crucified.
When Democrats booed Jerusalem at this year's convention, they showed
contempt for a city considered by millions, if not billions, to be holy. I do
not care to be affiliated in any way with a party that does that. Before this
year's convention, that wasn't the case, though you can keep guessing.
@killpack -- Only a partisan would think the Democrats booed Jeruselem. And I
think you're the only person I've ever heard say that they did.
That's a new one!
Well, I am a partisan now. And you seem to be missing that point. Before this
year's DNC, I really wasn't.
What!!!!????!!!! A two party system needs to be avoided at all costs and our
founding fathers warned us of this. George Washington warned of the 2 party
system, saying:"It serves always to distract the Public
Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration. It agitates the Community with
ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one part
against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door
to foreign influence and corruption, which find a facilitated access to the
government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and
the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another."Look at what’s happening! This country is anything but united and
I blame the current 2 party system and its “members”. What
President Washington said above has happened and is happening. We need to
acknowledge the other parties in this country, which there are many, looking to
them for leadership instead of fearing them because the Republicans and
Democrats are epically failing, no matter how you look at it.
@killpack -- I will take your word for it then. However, I think you are basing
your partisanship on things that are not quite accurate. Some Democrats did boo
at the convention when some wording about God was put back in the platform. It
may have been because those individuals don't like God, or, most likely, it
was because they either: 1. don't think God should be mentioned in a party
platform or 2. Didn't like the process of how the change was being made.
You may disagree with either of those 2 reasons, but I think you have to realize
that there are a lot of Democrats who believe in God and there are Republicans
who don't. I just don't think this is a good reason to become a
partisan Republican. As to the Jerusalem issue - the platform originally said
Jerusalem should be the capital of Israel. That got taken out and then put back
in. No one was booing the city or the fact that Christ lived in the Holy Land.
That's why I don't understand your comments about Jerusalem from a
When current Utah Democrats quit choosing candidates, whose political philosophy
and values are so far out there where the "busses never run," then I
will certainly consider giving them my vote. As a Republican, I have supported
and voted for Democrats in the past, but that has not happened for quite some
@killpack,Are you saying you would never vote for a Democrat like
James E. Faust, if he were still alive and running for public office? As a
Republican, I certainly would.Side Note: He did serve in the Utah
Legislature as a Democrat.
@mike richards maybe because as you have already been told before the old
second district went away thanks to republicans.
Until the church is on board, sorry about your luck.
@ Hutterite 5:33 p.m. Oct. 5, 2012Curious; Are borrowing &
modifying the catchphrase of James Storm (Impact Wrestling on Spike)?
I agree. Political parties are a sham. They make the ignorant appear
knowledgeable and allow the apathetic to assauage their guilt for not taking
care of their own problems. If you are gullible enough to believe that the
Democratic and Republican parties are solving societies problems, just wait for
another two or three elections. It will be worse! It doesn't matter who
is in charge! Wake up! Government is not the answer and bureaucrats will not
solve problems, just manage them. What a poor country indeed! Forget about the
Presidential election, make sure the House representatives causes gridlock with
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