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Published: Thursday, Oct. 4 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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one old man
Ogden, UT

Yes, there are border security problems. Big problems.

But please don't fall for Rob Bishop's lies about how environmental and wilderness regulations along the border "hamper" our Border Patrol. Bishop claims Border Patrol officers are "locked out" of wilderness areas.

False!

I talked with about a dozen Park Rangers and Border Patrol officers at Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument and one Arizona Department of Public Safety officer who all told me that they actually capture a much higher percentage of illegals within wilderness areas that they do on private land.

Why? When electronics detect movement, they can be sure it's probably illegal in a wilderness area and not some farmer spreading manure or rounding up cattle.

Bishop is using this lie to push forward his anti-environmental nonsense.

Don't fall for it.

And, if you care about honesty in government, vote for Donna McAleer next month.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

There were questions about border security before these tragic murders. Eric Holder would rather sue Arizona that work on border security. Holder has an agenda that is not reality based.

trackerjohn
deming, NM

I believe you are correct in stating that this killing cannot/should not be confused with illegal imm. However you then go right ahead and attempt to connect it to drug smuggling? As with the Ole saying about your cake, you can't have it and eat it too. In all of the many news articles, press releases & TV coverage I have found no mention of any drugs being intercepted in connection with the event, so what makes it so set in your mind that it was?

one old man
Ogden, UT

The news this evening (KSL = NBC) stated that there is an investigation going on because this may have been a case of friendly fire between Border Patrol agents.

That would be especially tragic.

skiwampis
Sierra Vista, AZ

As someone who actually is familiar with the border, the most nonsensical part of this opinion is how illegal immigration doesn't relate to Agent Ivie's murder. I have no idea where to even start when refuting this unadulterated bury-our-head-in-the-sand argument.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Hold on a second. Drug smugglers do not equate to the dude crossing the boarder for work. Linking the two, which is what was tried here, is a most dishonest argument to make. It is as if we should view at all people who get speeding tickets as hardened criminals because an officer was killed during a high speed pursuit with a drug dealer.

I have no doubt the loss of this mans life is horrific. It was in no doubt a tragedy of huge proportions to those that were friends and loved by this man. This is not in doubt.

But this is like the death of a Utah State Trooper being killed while pursuing a drug trafficker, and loosing his life in the process. It in no way relates to all the other people that he stopped for other reasons. The trafficker is not and indicator on society or those other people who travel that road.

the two problems, illegals and drug trafficking, are two separate issues, that have separate problems, and solutions. Lets not confuse the issue here.

middle class
Cedar City, 00

The Washington Post is reporting that Agent Ivie's death and the wounding of another was caused by "friendly fire". Balistic analysis of the bullets likely lead to this conclusion.

We're all on a hair-trigger to blame poor border security or Mexican illegals. In this case, we were all wrong.

This is a tragedy for the families and a greater tragedy if it were in fact an accidental shooting such as "friendly fire".

I M LDS 2
Provo, UT

"The death of a border patrol agent in what appears to be an ambush by drug smugglers..."

The tragedy is that people with radical political views, including the Editorial Board of the DN, as well as Mitt Romney, are overzealous and premature in jumping to unsupported conclusions, and in politicizing the deaths of this Agent, and the Ambassador in Lybia.

Mature, thoughtful, rational people WAIT until the facts are in before trying to draw any conclusions!

Now we have reason to believe this was a case of friendly fire ... will DN Editorial Board issue an apology?

Michael in Manhattan
New Milford, NJ

Shouldn't you be deleting or at the very least altering this commentary by now? It has been quite a while since it was announced that friendly fire, not drug smugglers in an ambush, was what resulted in the agent's death.

I would hope you point this out in the very near future and stop running opinions once you learn that are contrary to published facts about an incident you are commenting on.

Thanks.

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