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Published: Wednesday, Oct. 3 2012 12:50 a.m. MDT

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Stephen Kent Ehat
Lindon, UT

I am just hoping that Gov. Romney steers away from throwing out numbers and percentages like "16 trillion" and "over 8 percent" and comments like "cheating China" and instead, right in his opening statement, in the very first words out of his mouth, he looks right into the camera lens and says things in personal terms, terms that you and I understand, terms that pertain to you and me individually, such as:

"My fellow Americans, friends. I want to lead us back to greatness. You may not know this, but just in the last year you fell $11,000 further into debt. You, yourself. If you are watching this debate with a loved one, he or she, adult or child, also now shoulder that new debt. And that's added to the same amount that was heaped on you each year of the four years of this administration.

"You are less safe. You have experienced the first terrorist attack on sovereign American soil, our consulate in Benghazi, since 9/11. You are watching the unraveling of a foreign policy of appeasement and apology and your international enemies are emboldened.

"It does not have to be like this."

"I will . . . ."

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

George Will, in his weekly political analysis column suggested the reason Obama is doing as well in the polls as he is in spite the very weak economy, the melt down in his foreign policies in the middle east and his domestic scandals is that most Americans want our first black president to succeed and are willing to accept less from him than they would any other leader. I think back to the days of his inauguration and before when Obama said he wants to, “fundamentally change America”. He talked about income redistribution and he talked about getting us off our oil based economy. Obama has not failed at all! He has done exactly what he promised. He has fundamentally changed America. He has succeeded in getting in to law the largest redistribution of wealth program in the history of America (Obamacare). He has succeeded in making oil much more expensive by printing money (stimulus program) that devaluated the dollar against foreign currency and denying the Keystone pipeline. The problem with Obama isn’t that he has not succeeded, its that he has taken us the wrong direction!

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

I know what to expect. Both candidates will be asked questions. Both candidates will morph their answers into sound bites and prepared talking points. We won't learn anything from either of them.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Romney should say "we're both millionaires, how about we commit to serving our country without pay?"

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

We've heard it all about what to expect in the debate. There's great expectations, low expectations, who wins doesn't matter, the other guy is a better debater, and so on. Here's my bold prediction. Seen from here, Romney, who's name means 'the chosen one' in Utahonics, will win.

Mad Hatter
Provo, UT

Is this a request by the Deseret News editorial board for specifics? Is it an acknowledgement that a certain candidate has not been very forthcoming in his response to questions posed to get an idea of what he would do if elected president other than ask that the general public "trust" him? Is this really a demand for honesty and straight talk or is it just more of the same?

With spurious accusations thrown back and forth, with misleading advertising and a campaign of "zingers", with surrogates mounting a vigorous campaign of untruths and innuendo, with candidates taking statements out of context and running for the gold (i.e. only interested in winning and not so interested in providing a useful plan), one truly wonders what to expect this election year.

Does the Deseret News really want answers over partisanship? Then let's demand this remembering that the real solutions come when heads get together in cooperation. Saying one side of the other is to blame for everything does not generated answers. Perhaps that is what the partisans want: No answers. No movement. The just want to stagnate believing that doing nothing is far preferable to doing something.

Pete1215
Lafayette, IN

I'm voting for Romney. But I have no stomach for political blather, so I will not watch the debate. What if we all vowed to watch until we heard the first lie? I wonder how long the candidates could refrain from lie, omission, misdirection, prevarication, etc.?

Patrick_Reynolds
Playa del Rey, CA

PART ONE OF THREE

For conservatives who commented on my editorial, above.

Hooray for conservatives who think outside the box, and see tobacco taxes as a good tax. To those who remain rigidly opposed to taxes in general, please read on.

We live in an age of complex problems. Complex problems require complex solutions, but most people don't have the time to look deeply into the issues, and want a simpler way to understand them.

People are vulnerable to the oversimplified solutions offered by conservatives, who too often insist that a simplistic approach of less government, less regulation and no new taxes will make things better.

Blind adherence to an oversimplistic ideology is dangerous. Complex problems require complex, case-by-case pragmatic solutions. Some taxes are good, and this reality gives the lie to the ideology of the Right.

Obama has done more than any US President to bring Big Tobacco to heel. In the editorial, I pointed out that on his 17th day in office, he signed into law the 62 cent Federal tobacco tax hike, and the higher price of tobacco immediately reduced teen smoking by 10% to 13%, and there are now 3 million fewer US smokers.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Yes, Stephen Kent Ehat, I too hope Romney will speak the truth. But if he does, it will sound like this:

"My fellow Americans, friends. I want to lead us back to greatness. You may not know this, but just in the last year you fell $11,000 further into debt. You, yourself. If you are watching this debate with a loved one, he or she, adult or child, also now shoulder that new debt. And that's added to the same amount that was heaped on you each year of the four years of this administration because of the burden placed upon them by President Cheney and his little friend.

"You are less safe. You have experienced the first terrorist attack on sovereign American soil, our consulate in Benghazi, since 9/11. You are watching the unraveling of a foreign policy of appeasement and apology and your international enemies are emboldened because they are watching the deadlocks in our government caused by my party's refusal to try to work with our President.

"It does not have to be like this.

I will make things a heck of a lot worse . . . . "

louie
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"Our own scorecard will be looking for substance and leadership. Who has command of the brutal facts? Who can speak frankly and persuasively to the American people about our perilous domestic challenges? Who has a clear, specific and pragmatically actionable plan for improvement?" Are you kidding? After all the billions of dollars spent on campaign adds, sound bites, speeches by the candidates, and the news media critques, if we are still undecided on who to vote for... shame on us. How will a "staged" performance add anything of substance.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Sadly I wish I could have high expectations for this debate but I know better. It will be full of the same grandstanding, mischaracterizations and failed attempts to villains the other side that we have seen throughout this election cycle from both sides. reason has left the building before the debate ever started.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I understand that Obama is going to announce his new economic policy tonight to cut taxes by 20% and open up energy production across the country .. from oil to coal. He then decided to scrap Obamacare and go with something more common sense that won't bankrupt our country based on the free market. Finally he decided to beef up our military due to the increased threats around the world. He also made the statement that "you did build that business after all"!! Wow - those three ghosts of patriots past did the trick!!!

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