Has Dick Harmon moved to Logan? True, a tipped pass was the
difference in last year's game, but the play drew a pass interference
penalty that was declined because of the touchdown on the play. Except for an
offensive pass interference call earlier, Utah could have won their game against
USU. USU also lost a game this year on a missed field goal. Last year they were
legendary for turning victory into defeat. They may go to a bowl and Utah may
not; no one knows for sure presently. Sportscasters try to motivate
teams by their rhetoric but coaches usually don't bother with such stuff;
it only sells newspapers.I agree it could be a defensive sluggfest,
which was the case in Boise for BYU. There are few 3-2 teams that are two plays
away from being 5-0. The last time USU was 4-0 and beat BYU in Provo (1978) to
be 5-0, they promptly became nationally ranked, got a big head, and started
losing. When USU starts to win about 8+ games a season I'll
believe they have a real program; 6 or 7 WAC teams isn't doing it.
Bronco learn by bad experiences? If he does it comes very slowly if at all. But
Bronco can hardly be blamed for BYU-inertia, while his testimony like
endorsement of Riley Nelson at halftime of the Hawaii game was a real curious
action. You finally show offensive life, so naturally Bronco has to throw cold
water on the Hill parade but telling the world, "Riley Nelson is our QB,
Taysom Hill is a wannabe".The center of BYU-Inertia is the AD's
office. Try and tell me there is anything at all going on there as I hear
crickets and see spider webs.Dennis Dodd CBS sports College football
expert- "BYU could be hurt more than any team with the new BCS
playoff"s. PAC commish Scott- "There is nothing stopping BYU from
making arrangements with playoff bowls". (if they qualify, the bowl would
take them, BSC conf have auto-tie in's or BYU will have to stand up for
themselves)Big 12 Commish- "BYU has never made us aware of what they
want to do"Down on the farm Tom Holmoe says ? Crickets cricking,
spiders spinning webs the phones are dead, no activity is taking place.
This fan wants to see USU clean the Y's clock...Go Aggies!
@toosmartforyou2 plays from 5-0? USU is 1 play from 5-0 and beat
Utah, who BYU lost to. BYU's offense has frankly been horrid against
decent competition... Washington State, Weber State, and Hawaii are not good
teams... And USU lost on a missed field goal? If you don't
remember, I'll remind you... The same day Utah State lost on a missed 37
yard field goal... BYU lost on a missed 36 yard field goal... Harmon moved to Logan??? - The fact is that as far as this year is concerned,
so far, Utah State looks like as good or better a team than BYU... The game will be close... Should be fun.
Come on Dick, you can do a better job getting USU & BYU fans fired up. This is so simple. If Bronco starts Riley than USU wins. If Hill plays
BYU wins. Why are Aggie fans so crazy now? Utah fans have much
better sportsmanship in Provo. Hey trueblueaggie - your offense will not
score anymore points against the cougs than Boise did.
@troy, If the Aggies show up to the stadium, they will win
regardless if Hill or Nelson plays. It's funny that you think USU
won't score just because you have held horrible offenses down. Boise is as
bad as they have been since before Koetter was there. Weber State, Hawaii
really? And Washington State will most likely finish last in the PAC 12. Face
it...USU > Utah > byu....but you are better than Weber State.
@troy06you finally win a game against a horrible hawaii team and all of a
sudden you are back on a national championship path?hahahahahahahahahahaha
Better coaching, better qb, better D.Other than home field, USU
holds the edge.Go Big Blue!!!
See what I mean about Aggie fans? I know you are moving in the right direction,
but seriously you guys lose interest in your team after a couple losses. I
respect USU a great deal, but it's fans are embarrising. Act like
you've been there before. I never said anything about about a
National Championship. I know BYU will lose 2-3 more games this year. And will
likely fall to the Aggies because Riley will throw the ball to the wrong team 4
times. Bring it on Aggie fans! Give us your ugliest pregame trash
talk possible. Just one question: why did you do two-for-one with BYU?
Why would you settle for such belittlement?
Sports nuts how long has it been since Hawaii was blanked? How many did they put
up against USC?When was the last time BSU's offense was held
scoreless? And if USU were in the P12 do you think Mike Leach would still
finish last?Where is Chris B?
TruBlueAggie25It's been so long since the Aggies were even
competitive that it's kinda fun to see a few of our friends from Cache
Valley feeling good about themselves. Feel free to under-estimate just how good
BYU's defense is and the marked improvement in BYU's offense.
Are you kidding? Hawaii couldn't beat Lone Peak this year. Records from
years past don't mean squat when it comes to college sports. If you think
that Hawaii, Boise and Washington State are good teams this year, then you have
no concept of "good" football. Maybe that comes from watching the
cougars this year? And if USU were in the PAC 12 they would finish ahead of a
very poor Mike Leach coached team. Once again, live in the present because
Leach and his Texas Tech ways are done.
Glad its a home game for the Y. It's also great to see USU doing so well.
Enjoy this moment in the sun because it will soon come to an end. In this big
dog eats little dog world of college football, other's are also noticing
coach Anderson's work. It won't be long before a big program raids
the sleepy little town of Logan with the big bucks that unfortunately the
Aggie's won't possibly be able to match and then,...... well its back
to square one again. The way the Utes are playing right now that big program
that wants to take a new direction may not be all that far away. Coach Calhoun
of Air Force said it best. He worries that college football has become more
football and less college.
The game is USU's to win or lose. BYU football fans still think they play
old time BYU football in Provo. They don't. BYU has not beaten anyone
good in years. Literally. USU should win this game.
Why do sports fans so often say "we" and "you" when they really
mean "the Cougars" or "the Aggies" or whatever? Living by
proxy? Neurotic need to personalize it, or to feel somehow involved instead of
just being a spectator? Unless you're on the team or staff,
it's not "we." I notice this mostly because it seems
that petty comments tend to come up more often when it has become
over-personalized.Go Aggies! Go down and rock that stadium!
@ Troy, Hill is just a clone of Riley.. Does BYU have any
traditional QB? You have great receivers but those BYU QBs aren't getting
the ball to themAs for 2-1s because it was part of a previous deal.
Those days are done. GA has made that clear.
@toosmart,ok... where to start... 1. BYU would have had
a shorter field, but BYUs current style of play during that drive, would have
been more likely to struggle the shorter the field. Not that it matters, the
point is it was a close game.2. Sure we missed a game on a field goal. In
one of the toughest stadiums in America. 1 game, against a decent BIG team, a
team more difficult than anyone BYU has played to date.3. You call that
game in Boise a defensive slug fest? More like an offensive toilet bowl.4.
We'll win 8 this year for sure. BYU may not even win 6. with potential
losses to USU, SJSU, ND, GT, and OSU
If Bronco can't see that Taysom Hill is a better QB than Riley Nelson then
he has no business being a head coach. BYU already has 2 losses this season -
they're not going anywhere. They may as well begin the Taysom Hill era and
get him some critical experience before next year's brutal schedule.I sincerely doubt that Bronco has the judgement to figure this out...
This is USU's year to shine. Love the Aggies. A one loss season is a
possibility this year.
I'll be happy if BYU has been able come up with a couple of offensive plays
that work that are NOT the QB draw. I watched the rerun of the Notre Dame / BYU
game of a few years ago with Beck and Berry at QB and BYU today is nothing near
the caliber of team they were in those days offensively. Doesn't anybody
else miss the tight end passes and the flair outs by backs and the great
crossing patterns by wide receivers? This will be a tough game for BYU. I hope
they are up to the task. I'm anxious to see how the defense holds up
against a good offense like USU.
This is coming from someone without a dog in the fight. I just love college
football. I do not understand why BYU fans think they are anything other then a
average team at best over the past couple years. BYU has a great defense. I love
the way they hit. The offense is very poor. Excellent receivers paired with
your two starting QBs who cant throw the ball. Terrible play calling with no
feel for the game. Its offense is a mess and the coaches are in denial.USU a good defense. Chuckie Keeton is a good QB as well. The Aggies are thin
at qb and thats a concern against a brutal defense like BYU. I love USU's
offense, much better then the Cougars. Aggies special teams are not to be
counted on which can hurt in a tough game. Coaching edge goes to GA against BYU.
Tough game but edge goes to the Aggies. Best QB and coach in the state of Utah.
This could be the year when the Aggies are the best team in the State.
This should be a great game.I know I'll be watching.
How can you say usu has a better d? BYU clearly has a better D. Their only
losses have come because the offense gave 6 points to each team they lost to.
CarsonThe newest Aggie homer! Is anyone surprised?I'm hoping the Utes win enough games to make it to either the New Mexico
Bowl or Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, maybe even the Las Vegas Bowl.This
clearly makes me a Ute fan.
I am sure it will be a great game. I hope students don’t run out on the
field before time has expired and that students don’t run up to the
opposing coach as he leaves the field and curse him out, especially getting it
caught on national TV for the entire world to see the embarrassing demonstration
of having no class.
Is BYU's program more established? Yes. Has BYU been more successful? Yes.
Does BYU have much more money? Yes. Are BYU's facilities nicer? Yes. Does
USU have to play 2 for 1's just to play BYU? Yes. Great. Congrats to Cougar
Nation. Regardless of all of that, it is undisputed that as between USU and
BYU, one program is stalling out and the other is rising. One program no longer
has the confidence it once had, while other has more than it's ever had.
One program constantly does more than 95% of FBS schools with the budget it has,
while the other does not. All let you decide which is which.
1. Hill is just a clone of Riley. - NOPE2. The game is USU's to win
or lose. - NOPE3. You finally win a game against a horrible Hawaii team
and all of a sudden you are back on a national championship path? - NOPE4.
BYU has a great defense, maybe, one of the best in BYU history. - YEP5.
BYU's retooled offensive line is going to surprise a lot of fans who
haven't been paying attention. - YEP6. Hill is a much better passer
than Aggie fans realize. - YEP7. BYU has a stable full of running backs
that will help open up BYU's passing attack. - YEP8. The Aggies are
going to discover that BYU is playing much better than any team the Aggies have
faced so far. - YEPGo Cougars!
Utah State is for real. BYU will need to prove they have an offense, this is not
going to be a Hawaii fest.
This could come down to a QB match up vs a defensive match up. Chucky vs Hill
would be an amazing game....Riley Nelson could make it a one sided
affair!!! For the Aggies....That's why this Ute loves Bronco!!!
First off, Chuckie Keaton could run circles around Joe Southwick. Second,
BYU's defense is insanely good, no matter what USU fans WANT to believe.
Third, BYU has a good Offense, when they choose to use it. At the moment they
aren't. Riley Nelson was the better choice over heaps. Hill is the better
choice over Riley. Its not a question of whether either team will score. I
think it will come down to who has the ball last. Aggie fans, you are getting a
taste of what its like to have a good team, FINALLY. Don't make fools of
yourselves by acting like your team is unbeatable. BYU fans, just sit back and
relax. Bronco isn't a great head coach, but he is a great defensive
coordinator. USU will struggle with scoring, just like BYU. Why don't we
just enjoy it and stop fighting about it?
I remember BYU beating some pretty good teams the past few years. Remember what
happened to Sam Bradford?I nearly attended USU, I'm so glad I
chose other schools. It's incredible how sports bring out the worst in
people. Sports Nutz Please don't lecture me or other BYU fans
about the past. The Aggie football team has no legacy. And try not to tell me
the Ags would have shut out Boise and or Hawaii. VAggieHill
runs twice as fast as Riley. Plus he can throw the ball more than 10 yards.
There is no "real" comparison. Do you watch Riley on ESPN every week
because you miss seeing him in Logan?
VAggie2. Sure we missed a game on a field goal. In one of the
toughest stadiums in America. 1 game, against a decent BIG team, a team more
difficult than anyone BYU has played to date.Are you talking about
the same Wisconsin team that only beat 1-4 UTEP 37-26 in "one of the
toughest stadiums in America"? With 7:29 left in the 4th quarter, Wisconsin
only led UTEP 23-19.
Troy, Once again I am talking about right now, the present. The
past byu teams will not be playing the old Aggie teams no matter how much you
seem to be thinking so. The fact that you think that Hawaii and Boise are good
teams this year, does show you don't have a clue. As long as Andersen is
coaching here and Bronco there, the Aggies will continue to get better while byu
will continue it's slide down to average. Troy, right now today....byu is
number 3 in the state so deal with it.
Keep up the good work, Coach Anderson. Next stop - Arkansas Razorbacks.
Wow! Utah State wins 3 out of its 4 games and all of a sudden Aggie fans like
Sports Nutz think they are unbeatable! And people say BYU fans are delusional?
Look, the Aggies appear to have a good team this year, but we dont know how good
because they have not beaten anyone good yet any more than BYU has. Yes, you
beat Utah, but Utah is not a great team this year. The same Utah team that you
beat in OT (with a little help from officials) went down to ASU and got
destroyed. Yes, Utah beat BYU, but two plays are all that separates a complete
reversal of the scenario with Utah beating USU and BYU beating Utah. Two plays!
In other words, all 3 teams are pretty evenly matched this year. I realize that
for Aggie fans, who have suffered through decades of being one of the worst
teams in D1, just being able to say that is a big deal, but that doesn't
mean you have arrived yet. And remember one more thing, the better season USU
has this year, the more phone calls Gary Andersen will get when the season is
Sports fan, yes. And Wisconsin is good.They took Nebraska to the
wire this week, and also lost to an excellent Oregon State team. They still beat
UTEP. Is Wisconsin as good as they used to be? No. Is Camp Randall still, Camp
Randall? Yes. It seems like Wisconsin plays up or down to their
competition.Point being, for a BYU fan to hold that missed FG (with 11 seconds
left) over our heads as evidence that BYU is better than USU is laughable, given
they did the same thing that week. 3 times.
The relationship Bronco has with Riley is hard to understand. It has nothing
to do with Riley's ability. Riley will always start. Riley will always
play poorly. Is this Bronco's last year?
byu wins USU by like 75 points. We would have undefeated if are bet
players always played.
Mr. Sport Nut,Did I say Boise and Hawaii were good this year? I
said USU would not have held them scoreless. Don't mix my words
- if Riley plays you win! If Hill plays BYU wins. They are not the same. And
your Defense will not blank anyone this year.
Really laughing at aggie "fans" that somehow think a decent, not great,
start to one season one time in the last 50 years means they are all that.LOL!
Really laughing at byu fans who think that they are still a good football
program, because they once were. They shutout Hawaii you know.
I am happy for USU. You have risen from being 'one step above a bye week
for an opponent to 'we came close' status. Lets see over the last
year, 'we came close' to beating Auburn; 'we came close' to
beating BYU; 'we came close' to winning our bowl game and 'we
came close' to beating Wisconsin. My prediction for this week is another
'we came close.'
Really laughing at y "fans" that somehow think their qb each year will
be in Heisman contention and that their team will be playing for a NC. quack
quackThe fact is that USU owned the y two years ago. Last year the
Aggies dominated most of the game and lost by a lucky tipped pass. Y fans would
like to think of the loss as a fluke and ignore the fact that USU continues to
make great improvements each season under Coach A.It will be a great
game Friday. It will be the toughest game the y has faced this season.
I agree with you Big Blue, most BYU fans think the cougars will smash the Aggies
and that T. Hill is the next big thing. I'm not sure though this game will
be much different than playing the Utes.
@ Go Big Blue,Hate to break it to you but USU doesn't have a
Heisman calibar QB either. It was a fluke a few years ago cause the aggies were
still a joke. They have made great improvement since Anderson took the job but
make no mistake about it two years ago was a fluke. Kinda like the UofU game
Aggie fans were saying all the same things last year. Then BYU beat them. It
will be nice when BYU really puts them in their place this week.
@ bleed blue, So where the y "came close to beating" Utah,
and came "oh so close to beating" Boise you must be thinking you guys
will come close again Friday? That's cool you are able to admit it.
There is no question that the aggies are better this year, Friday will show
just how good. Maybe y'all should bridle the bravado until then. You have
had so many false starts in the past.
Boys,Do you think it better to let the reams decide the outcome of a
sporting event? Perhaps the aggies do need to win to legitimatize their school.
When usu cracks the top 100 universities in US News & World Report or Forbes
rankings, get back to us. They'll probably be in the Top 10 football
rankings before then.
I have greta respect for USU football and what Coach Anderson has done down
there, but USU fans are as bad as some BYU fans. If you think you are going to
destroy BYU down in Provo, you are crazy! I talked to a friend that is an Aggie
fan and he is sure USU is going to cream BYU. They have a decent chance of
winning the game, but it will be close. I know you have played some good teams
this year and played well (I was just as upset about USU losing to Wisc as I was
BYU losing to Utah) but to say you are going to put a beat down on BYU shows
some ignorance. One other thing, if you take away 2 defensive td's, BYU has
given up 36 points. That is 7.2 points a game! I don't care who you have
played, that is good.
I don't believe nelson should starting.That should be obvious
to anyone who is watching.But Hill has yet prve he can pass. Last week Hill only averaged about 10 yards a pass on 21 attempts, very
nelson like. keeton averaged nearly 20 yards a pass, and had over 40
attempts. much more BYU like than BYU's QBS.Lark
should be starting, and the BYU offense does have talent to have big passing
games, and big offensive numbers,But Weber is bad o-line coach and
even with personnel changes in the line it's probably as good its going to
get this year, or any year under Weber. Remember it wasn't good last year
either.BYU has only managed barely above average offensive
performance against the weakest teams on their schedule over the last couple of
years, and consistently poor performance against any "good" team.Until BYU can average over 12 yards a pass that will continue.Although one can claim BYU is atleast on par with USC this year in
comparative performance against the same team at home.Unless
BYU's passing offense improves the USU game will be reminiscent of Boise
@go big blueThen you are laughing at something that is false. No BYU
fans claimed any of the stuff you said. What's even funnier than the false
bravado uf usu fans like yourself is that you have to actually make stuff up to
try and make it sound like you're making a relevent point. LOL!usu has improved but they are a long way from being anything
great. They have a chance to win Friday, I'll give them credit for that,
but a 3-1 start for the 1st time in 50 years ishardly a powerhouse program.Double LOL for that thought.
Hey, let the Aggies enjoy their one year of fame. It only happens once every 25
years or so. And regardless of what fans say on either side of the aisle, the
game will be decided on the field Friday night at LES.I would be
worried If I were an Aggie fan.I would be worried If I were a Cougar
fan.Should Be A great game.
@4601, Not exactly sure what a ream is, but I figure you are a big
financial wizard so you would know, right? When we want advice on penny stocks
we will look you up, but you should leave the football talk to those who know.
You are obviously out of your element.@ idaho cougar, I
don't think it will be a blow out either way, it's just fun to go back
and forth with fans of other teams. While I agree that byu has a good defense,
I am not impressed with the teams they have played. As I have said, Hawaii,
Weber and Washington St. are not good at all. It will be fun to watch on Friday.
Taysom Hill is showing great promise as BYU QB demolishing Hawaii. There's
talk in Cougar circles about Hesiman potential in Hill.The Aggies
don't have much of a chance. Sorry little brothers.
@sports Nutz,I know you did not say it, but other aggie fans have. I
know BYU has not played anybody super good either, but USU has? Ole' bucky
is a little down this year and last I heard BSU has only lost 3 home games since
2000. BSU is not as good as they have been, but saying BSU is no good and then
saying Wisconsin is good, do you truely believe it? Yes, USU should have beaten
Wisc., you probably could say the same thing about BYU. A -8 turnover
differential in 2 games on the road and they lost by a combined score of 4
points. Last year a -5 against Utah was a 40 point beat down. BYU should not be
taking lightly, if BYU (A BIG IF, DOMAN) can muster any offense they win Friday
Funny stuff Cosmo. What is the Hesiman? Do you mean He's a man? Is that a
byu award? And yes Hill did look great and Hawaii, as has every single team
they have played.
Sports NutzDon't get your knickers in a bunch over the Heisman
comments of Cosmo's Cousin - he's nothing but a Utah troll trying to
get a rise out of unsuspecting bloggers.
Looking forward to Friday night. Here's to hoping that Bronco is taking
this game seriously and actually prepares the team for the opponent this time
@Lightening Lad - Your playoff / conference affiliation speculation is purely
that. BYU is a church run school, they're going to keep fans including
myself in the dark. Members of the LDS church would be outraged to find out the
football coach is being paid $1M+ of tithing money for example. So, would you
like competitive sports programs or more transparency?@VAggie - You
can tell yourself that only Hill was a four star Elite 11 QB and I'm not
sure Nelson was known by anyone other than USU out of high school. Hill also
showed more in one drive in Boise than Nelson has in two years in Provo. Hill
will make mistakes and he shows a general lack of awareness in the pocket but,
I'll take a lack of awareness as a Fr. over a lack of ability to play the
QB position as a Sr.
"As for 2-1s because it was part of a previous deal. Those days are done. GA
has made that clear."USU refused a 2 for 1 from Utah which makes
sense given relatively equal No.'s when it comes to fans packed into the
stadium. I haven't seen the same news regarding BYU.
USU is a team that try to lose their games at the very end.
@won84, Nelson not known by anyone other than USU might be the
dumbest statement ever on these boards. Nelson was a Parade All-American coming
put of High School so you need to do your homework before you post nonsense. It
is funny how so many byu fans wanted to throw Heaps under the bus last year so
they could have Riley save them, and now they want Riley thrown away to bring on
Hill. I really don't care who plays QB for byu this week, they both bring
different abilities to the table. Riley has proven himself, while Hill has had
all of one game against a very poor team. I suspect Riley would have put up
great numbers against them as well.
Riley hasn't proven himself. And Bronco is not paid with
Troy06You mean that the gate and ESPN money aren't considered
tithing? My accountant told me I could deduct my season tickets and cable bill
as charitable donations. LOL!
This is coming from a Cougar fan, and it is hard to say, but I think that the
Aggies win 20-7
If Hill start, which we know won't happen, I think we will win 27-24. So
since we know that Nelson will start, Byu will barely put up any points, and
even though Bronco will put Hill it at the end, it will be FAR too late,
probably with 5 minutes left in the final quarter. He'll put up the only
points in a 20-7 loss.
Ha ha Mesa Coug. Bronco's salary comes from a fund supported by
a group of wealthy BYU football fans. They were scared Bronco would get hired
away. This salary increase was approved by BYU and the church. Whit
got a raise shortly thereafter to ensure he was the highest paid coach in the