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Published: Friday, Sept. 28 2012 1:45 p.m. MDT

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mightymite
DRAPER, UT

Ok he is finally starting to get it. He is dipping in the polls everywhere. The only sure thing he has is Utah and mormon voting block, both of which are way to small to be relevant. What a waste of money this campaign has been.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

In another post someone claimed Romney never lied or was less than truthful.... well.. here is one from today.

"Romney told the crowd at Valley Forge that he didn't know how any student at the school could support Obama. He said the president was cutting military spending while job opportunities for college graduates have decreased."

This was not Obama's doing. Congress set up a mechanism that if they didn't agree to a plan to cut spending, some automatic cuts would go in force. Surprisingly, Congress couldn't get anything passed, and therefor we are facing those automatic cuts - to everything including Department of Defense.

Romney now is taking that and saying directly that Obama does not support of military. This is false. Congress passed a bill promising to do something, and if they didn't, penalties would be applied. And yes, Obama signed that bill. But the responsibility to avoid those automatic cuts through legislation was congress'. Not Obama.

Unbelievable twist of logic. Is Mitt lying. I hope so. Because if he doesn't understand how legislation really works, then we are all in much more trouble than I feared.

Mad Hatter
Provo, UT

This is after voter suppression legislation designed specifically to win him Pennslyvania. Now we have the candidate reducing expectations which only a month ago were high for his presidential victory.

The question now becomes: How will Republicans act going forward? Will Romney encourage Republicans to embrace the winner and work together to solve problems or will he continue to pander to the extreme element of the Republican Party and help them self-implode?

When Republicans adopted the strategy to belittle, demonize, and launch a full-scale assault on a Barack Obama presidency at the key to winning back the White House, they went at this with the arrogance that they need not adjust their message because they believed Americans would rather vote for a turnip than for Obama. They presented no new ideas. They just painted lips on a pig and said they had a plan only people had to wait to hear what it was. And people saw that that plan was more of the same - George W. Bush Redux.

Democrats are no great shakes. But Republicans need to be cast into the trash bin.

LValfre
CHICAGO, IL

I didn't want Obama back but even less so I DON'T WANT ROMNEY. If only he would drop out and let Ron Paul have the throne ....

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

It would be something of a disappointment, too.

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

the anti mitt group is out in force on this posting. good luck. oh bomb ah is almost out. absolutely a disaster.

Grundle
West Jordan, UT

UtahBlueDevil,

THAT was quite the stretch. In a political environment where all responsibilities bubble up to the president, you want to call foul?

What a double standard we love to employ! How much blame does Bush get from our president for everything that has not gone right over the last four years?

Our politicians from all parties have let us down. Lets call it as it is instead of employing the double standard to cheer for our team!

The Democratic party represents less of my values on their path forward than the Republicans. It is that simple. I don't have to guess at this. They had the house, the senate, and the white house. They showed us who they were and, for me, it was enough to know that I reject their agenda.

They had the ball and ran the wrong way!

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

stay classy Ute.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@mad hatter
I agree, what I find interesting is the DN has not run one story about the voter registration fraud has happened on the behalf of the republicans in Florida. They seem bent on winning at any cost no matter how badly they need to distort the system.

Hank Pym
SLC, UT

Today's word of the day is concede.

Thank you. Good night!

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

First, I really wish all posters would respect the current president and possibly the next one and address them as such. Name-calling of the president and possibly future president just does not seem right. No matter your belief, they should be addressed with respect.

With that said, I think it is smart of Mr. Romney to downplay and reduce expections. It's a win-win situation for him. If he loses, he can say it was an uphill battle to beat the incumbant. If he wins, what an upset that would make, according to him, by lowering those expections.

And soon the barage of ads with all the money Mr. Romney has left over will start to kick in, and this race will be much different shortly.

BBobb
GARLAND, TX

We have known from the beginning that Mr. Romney’s biggest opponent in this race was not Barack Obama, but the media. They have done a wonderful job of making him look like a bumbling idiot, while Mr. Obama can do no wrong. For the last 3 weeks we have had the Obama Administration lying to the American People about what’s going on in Lybia, and what’s the big story on the news? Some comment that Romney made at a fund raiser several months ago.

More Americans are in poverty today than the day Obama took office. More businesses are shuttered and the American People are the proud owners of the automakers that were bailed out. We won't get our money out of that deal.

Perhaps we haven't suffered enough. Let's give him 4 more years and see how much damage he can really do.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@BBobb
So know your going to claim Governor Romney is a "victim" thats rich. The only thing he is a victim of is his own arrogance and pride.

Salsero
Provo, UT

Grundle West Jordan, UT

So what do you do when you meet someone who doesn't "share" your values? Let's forget presidential politics and focus on interpersonal realtionships. Do you say as little as possible? Do you ignore their very presence? Do you judge them and castigate them for not adhering to your system of values? Do you pull out your shotgun and shoot them?

When partisan political argument gets down into the dirt, what do you do with your neighbors who don't necessarily support your political position? If you share a fence and it requires repair, do you just let it fall down? Do you drive over his lawn to show him how much you despise him? Do you tell your wife how much better you are than your neighbor, criticize him, and make fun of him behind his back?

This is where we are today. Derisive generalizations about one's political views must, by extension, result in some type of action to "defeat" the target. If you can't stand the other guy, then why contend with them in the community? The same extends to the political community of ideas and the need for solutions.

A1994
Centerville, UT

News Flash: A new poll out of Pennsylvania tonight: Obama 47% Romney 45%. Anyone who is already declaring Obama the winner 5 weeks before election day is on something. All the polls that show Obama up 5-10 points are going to tighten with the next jobs report. That's the ugly truth Obama faces. It's the economy, stupid!

A1994
Centerville, UT

By the way, why all the lies about what happened in Libya? Does that trouble you Obama supporters even just a little bit? Four Americans are dead and we can't get a straight story from anyone in the White House.

the truth
Holladay, UT

The real shock will be to the liberals here,

on how badly Obama losses the election.

(hint: there is no true passion for Obama from the independents voters who make up a third of the electorate, all the polls deceitfully heavily weigh party affiliation to the voters, especially to the democrat party)

It's strange how the left here goes on about "lies", but have no problem with all the baldfaced lies and the staggering amount of lies (and secrecy), from Obama and his administration and the democrats.

I guess the extreme left care more about Ideology and party and their agenda, and more frankly, power, than they care about the principles they pretend to espouse.

Johnnyoh!
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A1994, Right on target, the liberal,secular progressives don't believe in the polls unless they are taken from someone in their house.
Our nation is swimming in debt,losing our moral compass, on and on,it is part our own making from allowing the liberals in the democratic party to get us there, sure blame George Bush, that's an easy out and part of the progressives low mentallity.
I was a Democrat at one time, they left me when they started attacking God, country,military veterans and supporting beliefs that were not mine, they even went after the Boy Scouts of America, and Christmas, so nothing they say as for as I'm concerned will change my mind that they support the anti-christ.
It is indeed time to take our country back from those that will try and lead us to socialism.
We can either come together or break apart, and I don't see obama as the one to do the job of bringing us together, at least Romney has a greater vision for our country.
In the words of one of their own Liberal kooks "It's The Economy Stupid"...James Carville
Remember November..Vote!

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

Bbobb,

The media hasn't made Mr. Romney look like a bumbling idiot, he has done that all by himself.

JohnnyOh really its the democrats that don't believe polls? All I have been reading on here is republicans complaining about the biases of the polls.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Grundel... it isn't twisted logic, it is simply the Constitution of the United States of America. For everyone's sake, the President does not have the power of the purse. If you had lived through Vietnam, you would be very clear on this subject.

And no, I don't think Obama has done everything right. I do think he let the relationship the House, the vote no on everything crowd, get to him, and didn't handle it well.

But at the end of the day, spending is the job of congress, simple and clear. The ball was in their court. Simpson Bowles was provided to them. And they did nothing.

Lastly, I said Congress. That is both the house and the senate... both Republicans and Democrats. Take the partisan glasses off - not everyone is as polarized as some like to believe. Obama isn't perfect, neither is Romney. At the end of the day, it is Congress that failed to act, not Obama. They didn't do their job....and that is pass a budget.

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