Published: Friday, Sept. 28 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT
I am really sick of hearing the term "redistribution of wealth"If one is to listen to the GOP talking points, you would think that the wealth
just haven't got a chance.In reality, the wealth has been
steadily funneling to the top. That is undeniable. And it has been happening
for a long time. And it has continued to happen during Obamas term.If the money was steadily moving the opposite way, you may have a case. But, unless you think it is just not happening fast enough, the numbers
don't support the GOP redistribution claims. Tell me, when the
system is structured so that the wealth moves to the top, is THAT considered
It's pretty simple, really. Conservatives favor redistribution of wealth
from the bottom up, while liberals favor redistribution from the top down.
What's disingenuous is that the Republicans try to disguise their brand of
redistribution as trickle DOWN economics that's good for the lower classes,
when it is just the opposite. What's unfortunate is that their preferred
direction of flow has won out over the last three decades. Just ask Warren
Buffett. Just look at the growing gap in wealth distribution between the Mitt
Romneys of the world and the rest of us.
What is the value of an education if one doesn't USE it? Veterans have EARNED their services by serving this country. Those authorized
costs are paid by a grateful America, just as we willingly pay for defense.FDR started Social Security. FDR started the "food stamp
program" (Food Surplus Commodities Corporation). (In 1959, Eisenhower
opposed it. In 1961, Kennedy reimplimented it with vouchers.) He was a
Democrat.Unemployment benefits were forced on the states in 1935 as
part of the Social Security Act. (FDR again.) Obama doesn't count anyone
unemployed whose benefits have run out.LBJ started Medicare. He was
a Democrat.Obama levied the largest tax increase in America's
history on the lower and middle class with Obamacare. He is a Democrat.Reid refused to allow the Senate consider an Republican budget. He is a
Democrat.Even a 5th grader can search out the facts and clearly see
that all major unauthorized programs were initiated by Democrats. That same 5th
grader can also clearly see that the current Democrat administration has doubled
the deficit in just four years.The Democrats OWN redistribution. Of
course, they will try to pass the blame - as usual.
What is happening in the campaigns now is simply nauseating. On both sides.
But the influence of big money from those corporate "people" funneling
it through their PACS is beyond nauseating. It's criminal.Repeal Citizens United!
Republicans favor redistribution of wealth from the poor to the wealthy.That's evidenced by their evisceration of consumer protection laws,
letting credit card companies charge exhorbitant interest rates and making it
practically impossible to discharge that debt through bankruptcy. All the
while, letting the "people", that means corporations, restructure any
time they want.The poor can just suffer. It's the GOP way.
To hear liberals tell it, the government paved the golden highway travelled by
Mormon Pioneers. Obama thinks that the government planted the fields and built
the cities for the Mormons and that the government erected the temples.
Liberals would have us think that the government furnished the wagons and
handcarts and that the government eradicated the crickets. According to that
fanciful "history", James Buchanan, a Democrat, never sent troops into
"Mexican territory" to handle the "Mormon Problem".The truth is that liberals twist facts to suit their needs. Redistribution is
a Democrat philosophy. It is not allowed by the Constitution, but that
didn't stop FDR, LBJ and Obama. It doesn't matter that redistribution
destroys jobs, as long as it puts more people on welfare so that they know to
look to Washington for their sustenance. Anyone who has ever started
a business knows that redistribution is STEALING from the workers and giving to
the idle. What a great business concept. Pay people to NOT work. Pay them to
be idle. Destroy all initiative. Destroy all incentive.No wonder
Obama has increased the deficit by $5 TRILLION dollars. His plan for idleness
Yes Mike, We know that you think that if only we would elect all
republicans the US would be in perfect harmony again. The deficit would be
non-existent and we would have full employment. Gays would have never been
"invented" and government could be run by the church.Dang
Mike,Please stay on topic. What on earth does the Utah War have to
do with this letter or the notion that Republicans also support a certain amount
of redistribution? Your constitutional rants are getting more and more
@Mike R.Unless you receive an equal benefit from the taxes you pay
isn't that a redistribution of wealth? Let's be fair, neither the
D's and the R's are trying to totally eliminate taxes. Regardless of
who implemented SS and Medicare it's not like the republicans are trying to
eliminate these programs. Neither party will cut tax breaks to farm and oil
companies. Unless you believe that all services should be paid by usage meaning
no public roads, pay a fee to utilize fire and police services, pay the military
to defend your home, etc. Then you also believe in redistribution of wealth.
Where did the idea that we should only have to pay tax based on what we, and we
alone, recieved from government come from? We one society of 300 million, not
300 million societies of one.
Haha!Look at how the repubs rush like flies onto garbage when one of
their base philosophies, redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich, is
attacked.Great letter.Anything that stirs repubs to
attack you and your views is a good thing for America in my view. Under repub
rule we've seen the disappearance of the middle-class, trillions of dollars
racked up in failed tax cut policies which haven't created jobs, and
we've seen the record profits for the 1 % while the rest of us suffer. Can't wait for Obama to win once again in November. And for a
message to be sent to the GOP. CHANGE if you WISH to remain relevant in America.
Come back in touch with your REAL constituents, not just big banks,
oil companies, and CEOs with Swiss Bank Accounts.
@JoeBlow:"In reality, the wealth has been steadily funneling to
the top."And just who's doing the funneling?"But, unless you think it is just not happening fast enough, the numbers
don't support the GOP redistribution claims."Socialism was
not built in a day... It takes years, and more people such as Obama. "Tell me, when the system is structured so that the wealth moves to the
top, is THAT considered 'redistribution?'"No.
It's called hard work... It's considered getting off your duff,
getting out the door, and getting to work, instead of waiting for the mailman to
deliver your welfare check. That's how wealth is created. That's
what this country is all about. That's what our Founding Fathers had in
mind. Everyone pulls their weight. Of course there's a need for a safety
net for the less fortunate such as the sick and otherwise incapacitated. But,
we need to have folks quit complaining and quit expecting the government to take
care of them from cradle to grave by taking from those who work and giving it to
those who play.
"Socialism was not built in a day... It takes years, and more people such as
Obama."And by folks like Bush and Mike Lee.Who
signed TARP? Who insists on tax cuts for the rich? Who
is protecting banks, wall street, and big oil?Who is insisting on an
increase of defense spending as a way to "stimulate the economy?" Lee
won't let us shut down Hill Air Force Base. That's Socialism. Shut
down that base and let the workers find jobs in the private sector. IF they
can't find jobs, then go back to school. OR start your own business.
Money is simply the media that we use to exchange the wealth that we create for
the wealth that others create. Money is to the economy of a society as blood is
to our bodies. Our blood picks up things from some organs and gives it to other
organs. If we stop the circulation (redistribution) of either the blood or the
money, the entity will die.
Redistribution of Wealth:Democrats vs.Republicans ---------------------------- $ to Military Veterans Hospital
Complex,$ to Military Industrial Complex,Striving to alleviate
the Poor, Sick, Needy & elderly.Striving to eliminate the Poor, Sick,
Needy, & elderlyAid for American Nation BuildingAid for
Foreign Nation BuildingGiving Heating Oil $ to the poorGiving
Billions $ to Oil Companies just becauseProtecting the Earth for
future generations benefitExploiting the Earth to benefit profit
generations.Food Stamps for the hungryFood Subsidizes for the
FarmersHand outs to actual PersonsHand outs to Corporate
PersonhoodsTake from the haves, give to the have-nots.Take
from the haves, give to the have-moresI could go on and on, but
therein lies the difference.
One party wants to tax to benefit society as a whole. The other party wants to
decrease taxes for the wealthy so they can decide if and where to spend their
money. The difficulty for the former is in seeking the proper
balance between generating revenue and the developing/maintaining the programs
considered a "benefit" to society. The latter see only the need to keep
the upper class "upper". Of course, these "upper" people love
certain government programs as long as they themselves benefit the most. There
are those programs they like, but they prefer to employ the credit card since
they don't like taxes on themselves. They want the "little people"
to pay for it because there are more of them and, therefore, benefit more. It's the old, medieval mindset of the landowning class and the
peasants. Since peasants worked the land, paid taxes and supported the
landowning class, it is clear to all that that is the way it should be. The
privledged are "entitled" by historical precedent.In one
case, wealth is supposedly "redistributed" to where it does the maximum
good for the society. In the other, wealth is "redistributed"
upwardward as God "intended".
It's funny how the doctrine of market triumphalism was declared dead in
2008, but somehow the Republicans just didn't get the memo. They keep
trying to resurrect it, even though we have a long track record now to prove
that funnel-up economics never really quite turns into trickle-down
economics.The corporate system we have embraced is designed to pool
all wealth at the top. Government's job is to prevent this so as to
preserve a civilized society. One party today sort of wants to slow down this
pooling. The other party wants to make sure government speeds up the pooling
process.Amazing that Utah Mormons, with their history of
communitarian economics and scriptural commands to achieve economic equality,
are more devoted than any group this side of Wall Street in their efforts to
achieve the exact opposite. They have enshrined economic freedom and turned
their backs on economic equality.
@The Real Maverick:"Look at how the repubs rush like flies onto
garbage..."Ditto... about Democrats. Notice the number of
'like' gold stars for 'anti-Romney' posts. My guess is,
these guys sit home in front of their computers making/agreeing to snide
comments about Romney while waiting for the postman to deliver their welfare
checks. The pro-Romney's are mostly out trying to earn a living.@Wanda B. Rich:"... even though we have a long track record
now to prove that funnel-up economics never really quite turns into trickle-down
economics."Have you tried trickle-up economics? Did you ever
get a job from a poor person?"The corporate system we have
embraced is designed to pool all wealth at the top."The
corporate system is designed to maximize profits for shareholders."Government's job is to prevent this so as to preserve a civilized
society."The government's job is to provide the atmosphere
for entrepreneurship (jobs creation) to succeed."Amazing that
Utah Mormons, with their history of communitarian economics..."They discovered early on that concepts like the United Order don't work.
Encourages free-loading, looking for handouts without contributing to their
Why do liberals want the government to pay for CHARITY? Where in the
Constitution is government charged with being a church and giving to the
POOR?Liberals always want somebody else to pay for their
"great" ideas. If those ideas are so great, why aren't they
willing to pay for them out of their own pockets. God invited us to be
charitable. Lucifer demanded, by using force, that his idea of
"charity" would control our lives. Does the government
invite or does it force? The Obamacare TAX is NOT an invitation. Those who
refuse that "summons" will be fined or jailed.
L WhiteSpringville, UTWhy do liberals want the government to pay for
CHARITY? Where in the Constitution is government charged with being a church and
giving to the POOR?=========== Government does not
provide Charity.It provides WELFARE - the same term used by our Church.And - General Welfare IS in the Constitution.So you and your
sweet hubby will recieve Social Security and Medicare under General Welfare, not
Charity from the mean old nasty Government.And you aren't FORCED to
take it.You can always not apply for that "sin" money.Oh and BTW - Tithing is NOT Charity, there's other little boxes like
"Humanitarian Aid", "Fast Offerings" and "Pertetual
Education" - those are Charity....and I know most LDS are not paying 10% to
any of hose.
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