To "Tolstoy" the information is not restricted in any way. You can go
and ask for the same records that the Democrats obtained, you can receive the
records. The Democrats do not want to pay for the time required to collect the
data. The records are accessable, the problem is the democrats don't want
to play by the rules, they want something for free.
@redshirtI understand perfectly well what is going on we are not talking
about some private corporation trying to get access to private citizens
information we are talking about restricting access to public documents that
where generated by our public officials and people right to examine those
documents. You are right money does not grow on trees and that is exactly why
access to the records needs to be accessible to make sure our public officials
are being honest with our money.
To "Tolstoy" you don't understand the problem. Think of it this
way. Would you support a policy that made it so that any time a company sent
you an advertisement you had to pay for the advertisement? All so that the
businesses could go fishing to entice you to their stores?That is
exactly what is going on here. If you give people unlimited access to
government records, it will cost the government a lot of money to process the
requests and do their jobs. Who is going to pay for that? Money doesn't
grow on trees.Plus, I don't think that you have read the Utah
law regarding obtaining records. Individuas (people) can get the information
for free under certain conditions. So, if you suspect wrong doing, you can get
those records for free.
@redshirtthink about what you just said, you are saying peoples access to
public records should be discouraged because they may find wrong doing by our
elected officials. does that really make sense. @vorwhere did
I get the idea that the democrats where suing, from the article.
To "Tolstoy" I did consider why the GOP would pay after being
threatened. They think that the records contain nothing incriminating.You need to think about what this means to the state if the Democrats succeed.
You now open the door to anybody on a fishing trip looking to find dirt.
Reporters, and political opponents will have an easier time getting large chunks
of information without it costing them a dime. This will cost the state a lot
of time and resources.
Closed door Republican gerrymandering of the voting Districts...Chicago-style politics, with a Latter-Day Republican spin on it.
@redshirt and VST did either of you ever stop to think that maybe
access to public records without excessive cost goes beyond this one case where
the GOP is willing to front the money to make it go away? Did you stop to ask
yourself why the GOP is willing to pay for this after being threatened with
I think that this has gone beyond what the records may or may not contain. When
the GOP offers to pay for the records, and they refuse the offer, that shows
that they are out for blood.
"it took 55 employees a combined 506 hours to compile the records"
apparently tis is Utah republicans Idea of a smaller government.
This is what happening in a ONE-Party politican system.Gerrymandering and Totalitarianism.viva la Utah-liban
If "it took 55 employees a combined 506 hours to compile the records"
then maybe we need to figure out why there are so many records, and why they
were so difficult to compile. Why was the process subject to so much
obfuscation? Shouldn't it be much clearer from the start?