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Published: Thursday, Sept. 27 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Owen
Heber City, UT

Nothing at all, as long as you spend it to help those who don't have enough - without judging how they may have ended up that way. That is, if you claim to believe certain sacred texts.

Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

And here I thought that the only righteous reason for seeking riches was "for the intent to do good--to clothe the naked, and to feed the hungry, and to liberate the captive, and administer relief to the sick and the afflicted." (Jacob 2:19) Silly me. I must have missed the part about multiple McMansions, Cadillacs, car elevators, boats, costly apparel, dancing horses, and accounts in the Caymans and in Swiss banks.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Ah, but how do we know that the money was earned honestly and honorably? How he did it is fair for discussion to know the background of the man who would lead the nation. Seeing tax returns is appropriate to know what factors influence the man. His tax rates are relevant to engage in a public discussion to determine future policy. And there are more reasons. I don't care if someone is rich or really how he spends his money. I do care if he is overly secretive, giving the appearance of hiding something. And I object to pulling down others, particularly when you distort the facts, which are actually well known, public, and part of how we treat the leader of this great country. Bush, Reagan and all presidents are treated the same, and so would Romney if he was to win (but he won't).

Baron Scarpia
Logan, UT

Our founding fathers left us an economic system of slavery focused on protecting landowners and forbidding women and minorities the right to own property or vote. It took almost 200 years for our GOVERNMENT to free the slaves and grant civil rights to women and the descendents of slaves and other non-whites. The "free market" didn't build that!

What we had was a form of "crony capitalism" centered on white men. Today, our capitalistic system still is a "crony" system that favors fossil fuels, low taxes for the wealthy, etc.

Sadly, too many Americans are disenfranchised or expoilted in this capitalistic system, especially single women with children, who make up the vast majority of the proverty in this nation.

A government that offers daycare, low cost education, and ther opportunities to uplift the disenfranchised is the cornerstone of a great nation. It's third world nations that ignore the poor or seek ways to marginalize them to reduce the tax burden of the protected classes.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Isn’t coveting other people’s property a sin? How about, “judge not, lest ye be judged”? Our problems are not because of how Romney is spending HIS money but how Obama is spending OUR money! That’s the real problem!

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."-- Matthew 19:24

one old man
Ogden, UT

Somehow money "earned" by sending American jobs overseas doesn't seem like it was earned honestly.

And what about those foreign bank accounts?

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Where was Russel's concerns over Presidents spending their own money for vacations when Bush was President?

Oh yeah, that's right, Russel was silent on this issue during the Bush Administration.

Consistency is not exactly a common attribute among the right.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Mr. Bender's letter misses the point entirely. No one is complaining about the fact that rich folks exist. The complaint is _how_ some people get rich.

If you can acknowledge that there are important differences between the wealth of a Columbian drug lord and the wealth of a popular novelist, then you must also recognize the importance of distinguishing between the wealth of a person who wrote a valuable piece of computer software from a person who achieved wealth by shipping US jobs overseas and avoiding taxes through Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Islands tax shelters.

The fact that Mitt Romney, owner of Swiss bank accounts, beligerently refuses to make public more than the last two years of his tax returns, when his own father shared 12 years of returns when he ran for President in 1968, should make Americans deeply skeptical of Mr. Romney's claim to be qualified to lead our nation.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

I see other wealthy persons like Warren Buffet, Bill & Melinda Gates, Jon & Karen Hunstman.

They have HUGE Foundations dedicated to helping the poor, sick, needy, and the under-priveldged and seek to better Human kind with their wealth.

They seek to better the world.

Mitt Romney has his wealth tucked away in secret Foreign accounts.

Then,
Without even touching his OWN wealth -- He takes in $$$ Hundreds of Millions of donors TAX DEDUCTABILE donations to run for President of the United States, and seeks to rule the world.

If Mitt Romney was using his own "hard earned wealth" and not just using TAX DEDUCTIBLE donations, you might have a point.
But all I see is another spin doctor rationaizing a flasehood.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

I have a question for those who take the time to write a letter to the Deseret News to try to convince others to vote for the Republican candidate.

Why do you waste your time? Utah is a lock for Mitt Romney. Even if your letter (no matter how misinformed or hyperbolic it is) draws half of President Obama's supporters over to your side, does that make Utah have more than the six electoral college votes that are already going to Mr. Romney?

Dave D
Pocatello, ID

Capitalism, just as socialism, communism, or any other economic system that may exist in the world today is flawed. The economic system to which Mitt, and all of us who are LDS should subscribe is the Law of Consecration. Nothing we accumulate in our lives belongs to us. Therefore, we ought to use whatever we have for doing what God wants us to do.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

I think most people simply want decent paying jobs that provide them a comfortable living--the ability to provide for the needs of their families. People want a "cushion" between themselves and ending up on the street. They want their children to get a quality education so they can also become self-sufficient. People don't want to worry about a health crisis that will leave them penniless.

I don't think it is about "coveting" wealth. It's about a system where wealth and power is concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. Its about wealth purchasing power in govt. to benefit themselves.

If anyone is idolizing and worshipping wealth it is the Republicans. In their minds, the wealthy are to be admired for their intellect and hard work. But that may or may not be true. There's a difference between George Romney and his son.

jsf
Centerville, UT

Esquire your right, "to know the background of the man who would lead the nation." "I do care if he is overly secretive, giving the appearance of hiding something. And I object to pulling down others, particularly when you distort the facts, which are actually well known, public, and part of how we treat the leader of this great country." So ask again who is Barak Obama and what are the influences of his life? His mentor, and his father were communists, but it is ok to ignore these influences. In his book he states he sought the communists on campus, but we are not allowed to peer in to his past. Why are his college transcripts hidden? Why do we not get to vet his history? Please tell us what reason Obama has to hide who he is?

jsf
Centerville, UT

OK I LOLed on this one. I hope you will accept my apology. "He takes in $$$ Hundreds of Millions of donors TAX DEDUCTABILE donations to run for President of the United States"

Two points here:
1. Political donations are not "TAX DEDUCTIBLE."
2. Where is Barak Obama getting his $$$ Hundreds of Millions of donors so called TAX DEDUCIBLE donations to run for President?

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Everything on Earth belongs to GOD. If you take more than you need, seek riches to inflate yourself and don't care for others you can answer for it.

It's no different than if I ordered a pizza for my kids and my son claimed the pizza as his own and made my daughter work for her slice.

What rich man has made even one atom from nothing? Capitalism isn't what we are on Earth to learn. You'd do better to seek other goals in life than a car elevator and dancing horses. Mitt can answer for that himself, but I won't be holding him up as an example as what is good.

What is good is a person that works with his own mind and hands for a living and not the labors of others less powerfull.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

People need to work for what they receive because if they don’t they become less than their creator designed them to be. They waste their God given talents, their freedom (dependency is not freedom) and their dignity. They become just a different kind of slave and never experience much of the joys of life! They don’t live, they just exist.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ jsf, if you don't know who Obama is after serving as President for four years, all I can say is you need to come out of the cave. All you spout is radical right wing venom meant to tear down, back by nothing whatsoever. Zip. Nada. Right wing conspiracy theories. Want to see Obama's tax returns for 10 years? Easy. Want to see Romney's tax returns for 10 years? Forget it. Here's the deal. Either Harry Reid and his Bain investor source are right that Romney didn't pay, or he had involvement in the Son of Boss tax scam, which Marriott Corp. got caught up in while Romney was on the Board, described as “a truly abusive tax shelter...the most abusive in US history,” or some other issue with the IRS. This would explain why Romney told a close associate that had he known he was gong to be pressed to release his tax returns, he would never have run for President. Unlike some, I don't fall for his "Ah, shucks" act.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

We see people's real character when the do what they will with power. Mitt has always sought and obtained power. But what did he do with it? He took control of distressed companies, sent jobs to other countries where the workers have been made desparate and slashed and burned pensions funds in this country.

When Mitt had power to run the olympics he sought and spent 1.5 billion dollars of taxpayer money to "fix" the shambles of disorganization. Anyone could fix it with a billion and a half dollars.

The $1.5 billion in taxpayer dollars that Congress poured into Utah was 1.5 times the amount spent by lawmakers to support all seven Olympic Games held in the U.S. since 1904—combined. How is that so great? How is that not crony capitalism?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Jsf

Lol

In your comment you point out that Obama says he "sought the communists" on campus but then claim he is hiding his past.

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