Re, by Mike Richards: "In Congress, a Representative represents ALL of the
people of a State. Congress does not subdivide States into little blocks. The
duty of Congress is to listen to and to do the the will of the people of the
State which they represent."First, a representative does NOT
represent ALL of the people of a state but represents his congressional
district. A senator represents the whole state.Second, the duty of
Congress is NOT to do the will of the people of a state but to do what is best
for the United States.
SG in SLC: The question is not how many times Matheson voted with or against
Nancy Pelosi, the question is how many times did he vote against her when his
vote really COUNTED?There is a common political trick that
Republicans and Democrats alike play all the time. A Republican in a heavily
Democratic district or a Democrat (like Matheson) in a heavily Republican
district will vote against their party whenever they know their vote will not
really matter one way or the other. Then they can show their constituents that
"I am with you instead of my party most of the time". Whenever their
vote really makes a difference; however, they stick with their party and go
against their constituency.Sometimes it can bite them in the
election, sometimes their trick works.
@Mike RichardsBefore you start playing the "Pelosi = Guilt By
Association" card, you might be interested to know that in all of the
Congressional roll call votes since October 2007, Jason Chaffetz has voted on
the same side as Nancy Pelosi 22% of the time, and Rob Bishop has voted on the
same side as Nancy Pelosi 23% of the time. Granted, in the Congressional roll
call votes since October 2007 Jim Matheson has voted on the same side as Nancy
Pelosi 59% of the time, but that means that he has voted IN OPPOSITION to Nancy
Pelosi 41% of the time (absences and abstentions have been factored out). So,
the claim that "a vote for Matheson is a vote for Pelosi" doesn't
quite square with reality (at least 41% of the time).@Ms. WeightWhether or not a Congressional candidate lives in the district they are
running for is a non-issue (so long as they live in the state); particularly
when gerrymandering occurs unfettered.
LDS Liberal's obvious dig against Fox News while giving all the
left-leaning media (NBC, NYT, etc) and the far-left media cheerleaders (MSNBC,
Huffington Post, etc.) a complete pass shows how some people are so partisan
that they are completely blind to the other side.Politics is messy
and both parties play fast and loose with things like the truth, civility, and
fair play. Only the most rabid fans will scream loudest when the other side does
the slightest infraction and willfully ignore the most aggregious violation by
their own side.Even though I am conservative, I am willing to ignore
trivial problems I see with liberals and I am willing to call out Republicans
when they cross the line. Hopefully, there are a lot of others like me on both
sides of the aisle. You just don't see them much in these forums.
@Mike RichardsRep. Matheson has represented me well and has my vote.
Glad he is back in my district. The letter writer should ask her question to
Rep. Chaffetz who hasn't lived in his district until the Utah Good Ol'
Party put him in it for this election. I really don't like Utah Republicans
and their "shenanigans."P.S. I believe the U.S. Chamber of
Commerce presented Rep. Matheson the Spirit of Enterprise award for being
supportive of business interests while we get through the economy.
@joereally you are going to try to insinuate that the letter writer is a
matheson supporter trying to cause trouble? talk about trying to plant a seed.
JoeCapitalist2Orem, UTThe media plays along because it helps
them sell news.3:07 p.m. Sept. 27, 2012=========And true or false, right or wrong - THAT is the secret of FauxNews
The letter writer was definitely trying to "stir the pot" on an obvious
not-issue.Hard to say if it was from a Matheson supporter who wanted
to churn up all the predictable comebacks of "Chaffetz did it too", or
if it really was from a Matheson opponent who wanted to plant in the minds of
gulible people that something "must be amiss here".In the
"silly season" of political elections both sides do this kind of thing
all the time. The media plays along because it helps them sell news.
Why is the Deseret News even publishing these type of letter? I guess it's
because they want readers to know that some people are so partisan they really
know the answers to the questions they raise. The published letter
writer lives in Orem, represented by Congressman Chafetz who lives in
Matheson's current district in Alpine and can't vote for himself.
Surely, she knows that and only wrote the letter to "stir the pot" on an
non-issue. Wouldn't it be nice if the Deseret News published a
favorable Matheson Letter to the Editor? The ratio is now about 5 to 1 in favor
of Love. Does that show any bias in this race? And don't tell me that
Matheson's people aren't sending them because I know for a fact they
@mike richards He may not do your bidding but he has certainly represented
me. Beleive it or not Mike your views do not represent all the people of Utah,
there are actually legitimate voters out there that do not think in lock step
@Mike Richards"Jim Matheson has not done the will of the people of
Utah. "Then why does he keep winning and why did he have the
best favorable-unfavorable rating of ALL Utah politicians last year?
The author needs to take this up with the legislature when she decides to join
In Congress, a Representative represents ALL of the people of a State. Congress
does not subdivide States into little blocks. The duty of Congress is to listen
to and to do the the will of the people of the State which they represent. It
is never the duty of a Representative to do the will of the Speaker or of a
committee chairman. It is ALWAYS the duty of a Representative to do the will of
the people - within the limits allowed by the Constitution.Jim
Matheson has not done the will of the people of Utah. Too many times, he voted
in opposition to the other Representatives and Senators from Utah. Too many
times, he allowed Ms. Pelosi to lead him around by the nose as he did her
bidding.Any Representative who caves in to political pressure and
votes AGAINST the will of the people of his State is not worthy to represent
those people. Jim Matheson clearly has proven that he will vote with the
"herd" to the detriment of the people of Utah.The writer is
correct about the fact that he can't vote for himself.
Why? Repubs made that law thinking they would win every district. If you blame
anyone, blame jerrymandering repubs.
Jason Chaffetz is a Republican, he is immune from scrutiny.FYI --
Mitt Romney pulled the same game when he ran for Governor of Massachucetts
[he was still claiming to be a resident of Utah].But - once again,
we have that double standard of scrutiny and outrage.Only gets
called into question when someone has the letter (D) next to them.
All those questions you asked, could all be answered by Jason Chaffetz.Where was your concern then?
maybe the state legislature should not redistrict a sitting representative out
of being in his district.
Far worse than where Chafetz lives, his website refuses to accept input from
anyone who does not live in the district he doesn't live in.But
I guess if you're a Republican accustomed to Republican tomfoolery, that
makes sense in some bizarre way.
"Jason Chaffetz has not lived in the district he represents up until now.
"Now Roland. You are comparing apples to oranges. Chaffetz is
a Republican. That's different.:)
Ask Jason Chaffetz
If candidates need to live in the districts, perhaps it would be wise to tell
the legislature to discontinue the practice of drawing boundaries that extend
from one end of the state to the other?Mia Love would be a disaster
in the House.
While I agree, Utah law says otherwise. But point out to me your prior
objections to Chaffetz doing the same, then I'll believe that your
complaint here is not merely a partisan attack.
Jason Chaffetz has not lived in the district he represents up until now. Was
that a problem for you too?