Joe,you say the pledge is the biggest impediment, I say harry reid is.
I'm sure there is some truth to both statements, but you justify harry in
being obstructionist. I would say that Ryan's budget was not
playing politics because it actually requires something of people - it does not
continue to feed their sense of entitlement and dependency. It was politically
risky. THAT is NOT playing politics.but I am sure you will
disagree.Let's talk about the pledge, shall we? Even under
BO's proposal to raise taxes on job creators, it would garner an additional
$80 billion over 10 years. That's not even a drop in the bucket when BO is
running annual deficits in the trillions. BO is playing the worst kind of
politics, divisive class warfare, when he puts forth proposal HE knows will not
pass the house just so he can posture himself politically. THAT is playing
politics. BO is doing exactly what you accuse Boehner, Canter, and
Ryan of doing because BO puts an unacceptable tax increase in every proposal he
No lost, You are not being dishonest, you are just not telling the whole
truth.Your version"Has harry allowed one vote on a
house-passed budget?... " They have done their job"The
complete picture.Per constitution, spending bills originate in the
house. The house, being GOP controlled has proposed partisan budgets which
incorporate Republican ideology with little compromise with the democrats, hence
garnering ZERO Democrat votes. These budget proposals then move to
the Democrat controlled Senate who then make the partisan move of not allowing a
vote.______________________________Yes, you can say
Harry is playing politics. Tell me one person in Washington who is not.But, at the end of the day, Harry blocked a vote on something that would not
have passed.Boehner, Canter and Ryan proposed and passed a partisan
house budget knowing that it would never pass in the senate.Is that
not also politics?The real problem is now this. The GOP has backed
themselves into a corner with the Grover pledge.Adhering to that pledge is
unreasonable and is the single biggest roadblock to getting a compromise budget
that this country desperately needs.The country will penalize them
for that stance.
Joe,please tell me where I have been dishonest. I do appreciate you
aknowledging the dems have culpability; I acknowledge the repubs also carry some
blame.Has harry allowed one vote on a house-passed budget? He did
allow a vote a BO's proposed budget and it had, what, 90+ votes opposed to
it? Who is playing politics there? Who was wasting time there?Under the constitution, spending bills originate in the house. They have done
their job. You say the budgets had no chance of passing - perhaps you are
correct, but harry has not allowed a vote so his members will not be on record
voting one way or the other. Who is playing politics there?You say
the refusal to compromise is squarely on the repulicans. I guess that's
why when Boehner and BO had a deal worked out last summer, BO's political
advisors told BO it made him look weak so BO, at the last minute, added what BO
knew would be unacceptable to Beoehner. THAT is BO putting party and politics
ahead of the nation's interest.The naiton may blame the repubs,
but only because the dems own the media.
Lost - at least be honest in the discussion. You know how it works and so do I.
So quit making it sound like this is some huge revelation.The house
is controlled by the R's. You, me and them, knew that the budget had no
chance of passing in the senate. The house budgets have been one sided, as
expected. The dems would have done the same thing had the roles been
reversed.But, those budgets were a waste of time. They were not done
with any delusions that they would get passed. They wasted everyone's time
in order to make a partisan point. Like Children.They are not
governing. They were playing politics and it happens on both sides and is why
congress is dysfunctional and have the lowest approval ratings in history.So, drop your talking points and talk reality.Taxes are at
an all time low and spending is at an all time high.The majority of
your side continues to spend money but has pledged to not raise taxes.Yes, the refusal to compromise is squarely on the Republicans. You know it, I
know it and more importantly, the nation knows it.
Joe Blow,the house has passed budgets, they die in harry reid's
senate. Tell harry reid to find the solution. Better yet, tell harry reid to
let the solution come to a vote.Talk about having your hands tied.
Talk about not compromising. Talk about holding party over country. That is
today's harry reid. And he is ruining this country
Congress is currently crafting a bill to "kick the can down the road"
for six more months.
We need to cut spending. Sequestration will do that. Not thrilled with
where the cuts will be? Tell your congressmen to find a better solution.Why could they not? Well, because they will not budge on raising taxes
from the lowest levels in 60 years. And because 238 Reps and 41 senators
(virtually all Republicans)have signed a pledge against raising taxes one cent.
Sad that raising spending isn't in the pledge.Talk about having
your hands tied. Talk about not compromising. Talk about holding party over
country. That is today's GOP. And they are ruining this