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Published: Monday, Sept. 24 2012 2:05 a.m. MDT

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Conner Johnson

Bill Nye you are the man! I saw the clip a month ago, and it nearly has 5 million views on YouTube. Keep on trucking and spreading the good word Science Guy.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Look, I'm deeply religious myself....

But when will these folks clearly understand that Science tells us HOW God does things, Religion tells us WHY.

Shimlau
SAINT GEORGE, UT

Like LDS Liberal, I am also deeply religious, and Have never had a problem with the reconcilling my faith with science. I even majored in Geology at the U may years ago.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

Questioning is science

I question a scientist who criticizes anyone who questions HIS science

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

Science is not our enemy. To wit:

How gladly would we understand every principle pertaining to science and art, and become thoroughly acquainted with every intricate operation of nature, and with all the chemical changes that are constantly going on around us! How delightful this would be, and what a boundless field of truth and power is open for us to explore! - Brigham Young

The time of creation has ever been a subject of much comment and dispute. Yet I challenge anybody to produce from the Bible itself any finite limitation whatsoever of the periods of creation. By strained inferential references and interpretations men have sought to set the time in days or periods of a thousand years, but I feel sure that no justification of such limitations is warranted by the scriptures themselves. If the evolutionary hypothesis of the creation of life and matter in the universe is ultimately found to be correct, and I shall neither be disappointed nor displeased if it shall turn out so to be, in my humble opinion the Biblical account is sufficiently comprehensive to include the whole of the process. - Stephen L. Richards

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

I have problems with Nye and his ilk telling parents what they can and cannot teach their children.

To paraphrase a line from an otherwise forgettable 1980s movie - when scientists reach the peak of the mountain of all truth and look over the top, they will see God staring them in the face.

killpack
Sandy, UT

What exactly is US science? I take that as an insult. Bill Nye's version of science is somehow superior to everyone else's? It would be adorable if not so offensive.

Fern RL
LAYTON, UT

The earth could have come together as a planet 4.5 billion years ago; I don't know. I believe that God created evolution, but I don't think it takes Him as long to do things as it would just "by chance." I think it is as difficult to know what life on earth was like 10,000 years ago as it would be for a flea to understand the life cycle of a dog.

Evolution, of course, doesn't happen by chance, but by having a gene pool from which certain genes are selected for or against depending on the ability to survive to successive generations.

Ironically, humans have gained enough intelligence to make many conditions survivable that would have killed or rendered subjects less likely to reproduce in times past. Furthermore, they have devised methods to prevent reproduction, the primary means of continuing the genetic line.

Scientists say humans are animals, and just a part of nature, except when they don't like how humans destroy another part of nature, then there is a huge difference between the natural environment and what is man-made. I would mainly just ask scientists to be consistent.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT
I have problems with Nye and his ilk telling parents what they can and cannot teach their children.

To paraphrase a line from an otherwise forgettable 1980s movie - when scientists reach the peak of the mountain of all truth and look over the top, they will see God staring them in the face.

11:49 a.m. Sept. 24, 2012

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God's answer to them then would be;
Well done, thou good and faithful servants.
I knew you could do it.
because like I've always told you; The Glory of God is Intelligence.

BTW - How did you like that one about why I put those big flappy mounds on the sides of male oragotangs heads? That one had you going for awhile...

cval
Hyde Park, UT

Good grief. Can we not understand and even accept evolution (natural selection) as a true scientific principle with out extending its reach to force it to invalidate religion?

True understanding values what we can gain from differing approaches without extending those approaches to make them do more than they can really do.

Shawnm750
West Jordan, UT

First Stephen Hawking and now Bill Nye. Whatever happened to encouraging parents to teach openness to their kids instead of just telling them "don't push your creationist beliefs on them!"

I applaud Bill Nye for getting countless children interested in science who otherwise wouldn't have been. But his message is a little divisive and isn't going to help him bridge any gaps.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

The constant speed of light alone demonstrates the age of our universe. This is only a problem for those people who take the Bible word-for-word literally. For folks who take it as many believe it was largely meant (as metaphor, allegory, even mystically) there is no conflict with any historical or scientific fact.

Mister J
SLC, UT

re: lost in DC

"I have problems with Nye and his ilk telling parents what they can and cannot teach their children."

Curious? Would you have a problem with Boyd K Packer or Pat Robertson dictating cirriculum?

re: Counter Intelligence

"Questioning is science"

To quote a line in popular fiction series (hint: not Dan Brown), "God didn’t give these big brains & not want us to use them. We were born to question…"

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

LDS Lib,
you're probaly right, I suspect He will say "I knew you could do it".

But I suspect he will also add, "why didn't you accept my inspiration and guidance in your quest for truth a little more often?" After all, He sent us here to live by faith.

the truth
Holladay, UT

The only problem here is evolution isn't science either.

Evolution is science dogma, it is nothing but a big pile of suppositions ans assumptions,

just a bu a bunch of ridiculous guesses, created around imaginary trees of life.

But I guess I just think and analyze too much,

I guess I just accept the premise, and actually delve into the actual theory (guess) and its horribly indefinite and unscientific language.

The only problem is there is no actual scientific proof, no laboratory experiment, nothing without all its conjectures, may haves, might haves, possibly could haves.

When one thinks of evolution one can only think of Willy Wonka singing his song about his world of imagination.

An all powerful God, all knowing God, would never ever use evolution or would never ever need it.

Evolution doesn't exist, they only thing Darwin actually learned from Galapagos is that there is some natural adaptation, but only in the sphere and extent that a creature is capable of adapting.

No matter the nonsensical claims of science,

bacteria is still a bacteria,
virus is still a virus,
fly is still a fly.
and a horse is still a horse,

of course.

Central Texan
Buda, TX

Evolution only holds the place it does because no one has yet found any other non-theistic way to explain the development of living things. Bill Nye shows once again how evolution is being pushed and "sold" to humanity -- by bullying. Another example of this comes from a high school textbook my kids once used. In a section on evolution, the author inserts a box of text with a challenge to the student:

"Do you accept or reject the scientific theory of biological evolution by natural selection? If you reject it, what specific mechanism do you believe can account for the variety of life on the earth and what is the accepted and peer-reviewed scientific evidence for such a mechanism?" (the word 'specific' was italicized)

Notice how the author condescendingly presses the high-schooler to accept evolution, and that to disagree the student must possess scientifically "accepted" evidence? But even without a "peer-reviewed" alternative, what if the current scientific explanation does not hold up under logical scrutiny?

Demisana
South Jordan, UT

He seems to basing his advice on the premise that you can't be a legitimate scientist while rejecting evolution. Most branches of science have little to nothing to do with evolution. And no scientific discovery relevant to modern and future life will be discovered or missed based on evolutionary belief or the lack thereof. Whether it's a cure for cancer, or FTL travel, or the ongoing development of computers - they can all be discovered without regard to what may or may not have happened billions of years ago.

Sensible Scientist
Rexburg, ID

That life forms change through time is FACT. Explanations for those changes are theory, which means "the best explanation for all the evidence." A theory is based on exhaustive testing, evidence, and explanation. The evidence for our current understanding of evolution is mountainous and undeniable. There are no gaps or holes. Anyone who studies evolution sufficiently and objectively will come to these same conclusions. Deniers simply display ignorance.

It's simple: Evolution says nothing about God. Scriptures say nothing about evolution.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Mister J
I would have no objection to members of Boyd Packard's or Pat Robertson's congregations taking parenting advice from them.

Nye telling people everywhere that he knows better and their religions need to take a back seat to his superiority is very much out of place. It is bullying, akin to the activities of radical jihadists. Quite different from how Boyd or Pat encourage their flocks.

Ross
Madison, AL

Bill Nye seems so in love with himself that he would not be able to conduct true science anyway.

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