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Published: Saturday, Sept. 22 2012 12:01 a.m. MDT

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My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

I think everyone has figured it out that jobless claims and numbers are a manipulation of data, numbers, and how unemployed is defined to falsify these claims.

The 5.8% is an impossible claim they have adjusted and manipulated this lie. The rate slavery pay is so low they can't even qualify as a poor worker. It is so low that our state welfare must subsidize income with welfare to put them in poverty.

Which is another point, employment rates exclude underemployed workers as employed and Utah politicians and statisticians and creative math paints a very deformed picture of Utah's true economy. And that is what governemnt is about, pretending and faking the truth. This couldn't be done without the support of the novelist and fiction writers working for the news media and TV stations.

The real state of the economy in Utah is sucking blood from its citizens to sustain itself in a state of luxury while citizens are working/living in poor to poverty conditions.

Every day spending sprees to finance costly trial and error experiments in education, UDOT, and building trains and services to nowhere using tens of millions of dollars in experimental government operations.

UTAH Bill
Salt Lake City, UT

It occurs to me that our leaders have been blaming President Obama when unemployment was rising. Does this now mean they'll praise him as the rates decrease?

joy
Logan, UT

I don't rely on stats they count underemployed, min. paid workers, part time and so called census workers (of which when they were done they rehired them for another district and counted them twice) and OBama followers call him a great president. Right!
Utah's pay scale is pathetic at best. It's good that less people are sitting around collecting entitlements but really do you think they are making enough to get off welfare all together? I know people who don't want to make more money because then they would have to pay full price for their kids lunches and go without medicare. We've done it to ourselves. We're settling for less and falling into the lies that spew out of the Pres. mouth.
Really Utah do you not think that part of the job growth comes from all the college students who come in the Fall and are working part time? I doubt many new jobs were created. If so, please name a few.

DVD
Taylorsville, 00

It's a valid point that's brought up more these days when people discuss the underemployed and 'real unemployment' rates. I would still say that Utah's is going to be lower than the rest of the country, but we could still be doing much better. We can and should be an example to the rest of the country. So setting an example of fairness to workers and employers both would be a nice focus. As would protection of the state's citizens from crime, both 'white collar' and otherwise.

Aggie238
Logan, UT

2Cents,

While I generally agree with your premise that most statistics like this are probably manipulated, and furthermore I agree that these numbers may or may not accurately reflect the actual conditions, you have failed to also consider that as long as the data is manipulated in the same way every time, it will still give a good idea of the trends. In other words, though real unemployment/under-employment may be more than 5.8%, it is still trending downwards from last month and last year. This is a good thing no matter how you slice it. While Utah's government certainly has its share of shortcomings, it is clear that they have been doing something right when compared to most other states in this regard.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"While Utah's government certainly has its share of shortcomings, it is clear that they have been doing something right when compared to most other states in this regard."

i will give credit to Utah for being business friendly and willing to spend on basic infrastructure such as multi-modal transportation projects. Kudos to them on these accounts. But you also have to remember that Utah doesn't have a manufacturing based economy like Ohio nor Michigan. These rust belt states feel the swings in the extreme, and some of the credit is just due to having the right type of economy so that it isn't effected dramatically by one sector. Again, kudos to Utah for that as well.

But I also agree with the first poster - if you are going to blame someone whine things are bad, you also have to give them credit when things go good. Utah is feeling the effects of an improving US economy as well... and you have to give some credit there too. Right balance - all Utah. Business climate - federal programs and government. Sorry.. its just how it works.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Utah Bill, Blue Devil,

A building built with seismic reinforcement (Utah) withstands an earthquake (BO) much better than a building with no seismic reinforcement (CA). So, yeah, we CAN thank our governor and legislature that our unemployment rates is lower than what the rest of the country has, and we CAN blame BO that it is not any better. Sorry, just the way it works.

The US economy is not recovering near enough. This is the weakest recovery since the great depression and it is BO's policies that are preventing a more robust recovery.

crodier
LAYTON, UT

Dear Pres. Obama and Sen. Reid, Watch and learn.

Capsaicin
Salt Lake City, UT

So Utah has a "low" un-employment rate when rated nationally. Why not look at it this way... 78000 people unemployed is about the same size as the population of st. george. That's an ENTIRE large city of un-employed persons. Who are these people and why can't they find jobs?

The real problem. Employ-ability. Laziness and Integrity issues. But no one is willing to say it in the media. There's a vast swatch of people are inherently lazy not interested in making themselves employable. Not enough people are getting the educations they need. And there are vast numbers of persons who live on government handouts that don't legitimately need them.

Checkout craigslist and the number of job openings available. The problem is not availability of jobs. The problem is the availability of low paying jobs that people are willing to work at. The problem is not enough education. There have been and always will be openings for skilled workers. That means education. That means even while you're working, industry is changing. And that means more education, more scrimping, more saving, more sacrificing.

Plan for the future please. Get into a position be employed.

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