True, George, there's only so much we can do, but we can do much, much
better. Monster trucks and big SUVs with one person in them during rush hour,
engines idling while parents pick up their kids from school, government
vehicles, police cars and diesel trucks idling constantly, inadequate regulation
of industry (especially oil refineries and Kennecott), and no incentive to use
public transit are just a few of our many failings. No, we cannot blame our bad
air on other cities. We made it, it's ours, and we need to do more about
Screwdriver no we already established forest fires and wood emit heavy metals.
see Journal of Ecological Anthropology Vol. 7 2003, (peer reviewed journal).
Sorry wood is not better than coal. Please also be aware there is a vast
difference between Appalachian mined coal and Utah coal. East coast coal is
softer and has a higher sulfur content. Utah coal is hard and low in sulfur.
And wood does have heavy metals included. If your going to argue you need to
provide a source that contradicts the journal referenced above.
Yep. Kennecott (30% of Wasatch Front particulates), Us Mag, Oil refineries, etc,
are not factors. Neither is Utah's bare minimum controls and enforcement.
In Cedar City our air comes from Southern California, and the air here is just
fine. I think the author is stretching logic a bit.
Since we live in an area prone to bad air maybe it would behoove us to not make
This almost sounds like Obama's "I didn't create this economic
@Corn Dog:"Solar panels won't be much help in recharging
electric cars. Most people will want to recharge them at night when there's
no sun."You have a couple-a options... (1) buy a bank of storage
batteries to charge during the day then hook up the car each night, or (2) buy
@LDS Tree-Hugger1)Seattle and Portland gst their electricity from
coal plants located in Centralia, WA and Boardman, OR.2)Forest fires
are believed to emit as much mercury and lead as anthropogenic sources. Forest
fires don't have emission controls. @ScrewdriverTrees and other plants do indeed take up mercury, lead, and other heavy metals
through their roots. For example, poplar trees have been used at Superfund sites
for the purpose of removing heavy metals from the soil. Solar panels
won't be much help in recharging electric cars. Most people will want to
recharge them at night when there's no sun.
Woos is better than coal. Coal has been mixed up with heavy metal for millions
of years.Wood isn't fossil and doesn't have heavy metals
included. But don't chop down all the trees. If I told you I
have a device that goes on your roof, creates liquid fuel from sunlight that
collects in a tank, wouldn't you want one? Once we start
getting more affordable electric cars solar panels will be very popular.
Liberal BTW - "I tried to look up your reference -- nothing" Journal of
Ecological Anthropology Vol. 7 2003, (peer reviewed journal). The argument is
"Fossil fuels emit heavy elements and other toxins not found in burning
wood" The Answer is yes burning wood does emit the same heavy elements and
other toxins found in burning Fossil fuels. Liberal "I double
dog dare you burn coal in your house with wife and small children or in a garage
vs. wood." Have and would. But to reduce pollution I don't burn wood
or coal just Natural gas in a furnace. Didn't build a fireplace so the
heat would not be lost up a chimney. By burning wood in your stove or fireplace
you are emitting the same pollutions you would by burning coal. Hey I looked it
up. I didn't just assume.
LDS Lib: We used to all the time when I was a kid. In the fireplace. Grandma
had a coal burning furnace with the coal hopper sitting in the middle of her
kitchen.Oh wait, maybe that's why I am the way I am...
jsfCenterville, UTLDS Tree-Hugger, "Fossil fuels emit
heavy elements and other toxins not found in burning wood -- such as Mercury,
Lead and Sulfuric Acid." Sorry huger but Yes they do emit Mercury, Lead and
Sulfur compounds every bit as much as fossil fuels. See the Journal of
Ecological Anthropology. You do realize coal is made up of dead
trees and other biomass materials.11:36 a.m. Sept. 21, 2012=========== I double dog dare you burn coal in your house with
wife and small children or in a garage vs. wood.BTW - I tried to
look up your reference -- nothing.You do realize coal is made up of
dead trees and other biomass materials -- That has been sitting in the
ground for millions of years, under intense heat and pressure and has gone
through 3 sepereate chemical processes over those millions of years and it is no
longer the same chemically or physically.
"To say that the smoke from fires in the Northwest are causing Utah's
air pollution is nonsense and not based on reality or an understanding of the
facts." The last two weeks of smoky conditions are "reality" from
fires in the northwest. Due to a high centered over utah it will not disperse
until the high ridge moves off to the east. LDS Tree-Hugger,
"Fossil fuels emit heavy elements and other toxins not found in burning wood
-- such as Mercury, Lead and Sulfuric Acid." Sorry huger but Yes they do
emit Mercury, Lead and Sulfur compounds every bit as much as fossil fuels. See
the Journal of Ecological Anthropology. You do realize coal is made
up of dead trees and other biomass materials.
This letter is another example of bury your head in the sand and hope it all
works out. Yes, why make any attempt to slow down global warming, air pollution,
clean our waterways, or protect our natural resources because it's just so
durn expensive and hard. Yes there are things out of our control but it
doesn't mean run from them. You don't eat an elephant in one bite. You
pull up your britches and dig in, and stop denying there is a problem.
By the time west coast pollution would have hit Utah, it would have dissipated
to a large extend. Utah is the source of Utah's pollution, with some coming
from mining in Nevada. Stop making excuses for it. We need to clean it up.
@Esquire: Rats! I wish I had thought of that! Obama is responsible for
everything...(Where's the sarcasm font?)
Even if it isn't our fault, it's still our problem.
2 points -- 1. Seattle and Portland are NON-Coal burning....Bonneville Power [Yes, Bonneville, i.e., originally a Utah based comapny] Are Hydro Electric and Nuclear.2. This is from forest fires, NOT
fossil fuels --- BIG difference. Fossil fuels emmit heavy elements and other
toxics not found in burning wood -- such as Mecury, Lead and Sulphuric Acid.3. It's ignorant Conservaitves like this that long to go back to
the good old days of Love canal, birth defects, childhood emphasima, and 400
pre-mature deaths annually due to poor air quality.4. FYI -
California buys it's power from dirty Coal fed plants here in Utah....so
they aren't the ones responsibile for the pollution -- Utah is.
It would be a shame if we cleaned up the place for nothing.
The next thing we will see is blaming Utah's air pollution on President
Obama. If we have dirty air, we just need to stand up and take responsibility
for our actions. To say that the smoke from fires in the Northwest are causing
Utah's air pollution is nonsense and not based on reality or an
understanding of the facts.
Hey, if you dont like Utah's air, you can quit breathing it...giggles.
You're right.Lets just stop trying to clean up our air.
Well this can't be true. After all, humans cannot affect the atmosphere .
What's next? A letter defending the 2-stroke engine?
Please EPA: Save Utah from those who seem to think dirty air is a birthright.
We can and will do better. The coal industry strategy seems to have
worked well in Utah: Place "Clean" next to "Coal" and suddenly
you have a bountiful, healthy solution to our energy needs.