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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 19 2012 10:33 a.m. MDT

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AZ Dave
Chandler, AZ

"They'll crawl back once the TV deal is done," the source said. Begging is so unbecoming

Utah'95
FPO, AE

WhatsInItForMe,

Let me point some things out regarding strength of schedules for BYU and the Big East teams:

Last year, BYU's SOS was 90. Every team in the Big East played a tougher schedule.

In 2010, BYU's was 55. The SOSs in the Big East ranged from 38 to 75, and two of the teams played more challenging schedules than BYU did.

In 2009, 7 of the 8 members of the Big East played tougher schedules than BYU (SOS 61) did.

In 2008, all but one Big East team played tougher schedules than BYU (SOS 74) did.

In 2007, 5 of the 8 teams in the Big East played tougher schedules than BYU (SOS 59) did.

That means that in the last 5 years, the Big East teams have played more challenging schedules than BYU did 29 of 40 times.

The losses of Syracuse, Pitt, and particularly West Virginia will weaken the conference, but the additions of Houston, UCF, and particularly Boise State, will soften the blow.

If you want to argue that the Cougar shouldn't join the Big East, make it for some reason other than strength of schedule!

Might I suggest "travel?"

No Conference Will Take Us
SEATTLE, WA

What could have been.

Had everyone stayed in the MWC that left or is leaving. They could be well on their way by now to writing their on ticket. I think years from now college football analysts will be saying just that - what could have been.

With that said, I pass on joining the Big East. It just does not make sense at all. Perhaps in the next few years things might change with the Big 12 or even the PAC 12. Never say never. The football landscape is changing.

Mesa Coug
Phoenix, AZ

U95, once SOS becomes more important in the 4 team playoff it should not be as difficult to schedule teams in the big 5 conferences. They will all be dropping their div 2 teams. I still wouldn't mind some kind of scheduling deal with the big east without becoming a member.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@Utah'95

"So I do not feel any "anxiety" about the Cougars MAYBE joining the Big East, or more preferably, the Big 12."

Then you are just about the only Utah fan that doesn't, and I'll tell you why that is.

The majority of utah "fans" suffer from a major inferiority complex in relationship to BYU. They claim they don't but they do. They see being in the pac12 as a means of claiming superiority over BYU and are afraid to lose that.

Myself, well utah's conference affiliation is of no consequence to me, and I prefer BYU's independence. I've wanted them to be an independent for 30 years. It has finally happened and it is starting to shape up very well. I'm not the type to quit something after only 2 seasons especially when I see the type of schedule they have put together for next year.

I do not worry about BYU. I believe the board of trustee's, which is the quorum of the twelve, are inspired men. The decisions they make for BYU are the ones that should be made. I'm very happy with where they are now.

U 90
Corona, CA

Duckhunter,

My point exactly.... why do you comment on every Utah article (pick one, 2 or 4)?
2. To be of interest or importance to:
4. To cause anxiety or uneasiness in:

AFCoug
Colorado Springs, CO

Wow, I'm glad the BYU-Utah game has been put on hold for a few years after reading this board. Sure would be nice if both fans respected the other instead of taking offense at every little thing said. Just consider the source of the sarcasm and you'll realize no response is really needed.

That said the real point of the article is usually missed on these message boards because of the bitter Ute and Cougar fans. Is BYU better off in the Big East than they are as an independent?

There are certainly benefits to both but I fear if BYU does not get into a conferance soon scheduling will become near impossible. As conferances grow smaller conferances get shut down and more conferance games are played leaving fewer out of conferance opportunities. This makes scheduling more difficult or potentially impossible in the future, thereby leaving BYU irrelevant in the future because they cannot #1-schedule good competition, #2-poetentiall not even schedule an entire season.

A Big East with BSU, SDSU, BYU, Houston, Louisville, etc is going to be at least as good as the ACC. I say go now before it is to late.

Riddles in the Dark
Olympus Cove, Utah

Duckhunter

"The majority of utah "fans" suffer from a major inferiority complex in relationship to BYU. They claim they don't but they do. They see being in the pac12 as a means of claiming superiority over BYU and are afraid to lose that."

Well put.

2BCSWINS
West of I15, UT

@Ducky and Riddles in the dark

Scoreboard....Get use to it

Big east, independent who really cares. My true honest opinion the Y needs to stay with a weak schedule to keep their fan base intrigued and happy. By scheduling 2-3 good teams a year they can continue to put up 9-10 win seasons and the Y fan's will be happy. Something about a 9-10 win season with no major wins and a sub par bowl game keeps the Y fan's intrigued. Not knocking on it whatever works I guess. So if I was the Y I wouldn't change the recipe to that formula. If they increase the SOS they will start getting beat quite often and the fan base will revolt. If holmoe and bronco are smart they won't change anything they cannot compete with good teams consistently. If the SOS increases in 13/14/15 it will not be pretty in happy valley.

WhatsInItForMe
Orem, Utah

@ Utah'95 - 9:30pm

Why are you comparing BYU's past SOS numbers to the Big East? Apples to oranges now that BYU can set their own opponents as an independent (thus its recent schedules are bunk for comparison purposes). And, for many of those recent years the Big East SOS was based on teams that are no longer there.

You wasted a lot of print making a nonsensical point.

And no, Houston and UCF won't "soften the blow." Those are the "promotees" I was talking about.

And "travel"? No idea what you're referring to, considering BYU's independence schedule will have about the same amount of back-East travel as being in the Big East would.

I stick by independence or the Big XII. Really no other options, especially with "the big four" conferences scheduling inter-conference games with each other to improve their SOS ratings (B1G with Pac12, SEC with Big XII).

Notre Dame realized the Big Least is dead by moving its non-football sports to the ACC, which conference (without an inter-conference deal) is fast becoming the little brother of the BCS. The Big East is now the MWC in status.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Nurse Ratched!
Nurse Ratched!

Some of your patients are spinning again. Another loss to Utah and they still can't accept the direction their BYU football prgram is going. On the outside looking in.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"Why does this concern utah "fans"?"

Ducky:

Hah! You were one of the first y "fans" to post on a recent story exclusively about the Pac-12 in order to belittle it. So in your little (campus is our) world, everything about Utah's conference affiliation concerns y "fans", but nothing about about the y's affiliation should concern the Utes?

Typical y "fan" hypocrisy.

LOL, indeed!!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@u '90

I comment on utah articles bcause it bugs the living stuff out of you and every other utah "fan" out there. No other reason, that is the only one.

And my point about utah "fans" being "concerned" has nothing to do with you commenting on an article about BYU, I LIKE when you guys comment on BYU articles. Very entertaining. I has everything to do with all of you being absolutely scared to death that BYU may make a move that trumps utah. You live in constant fright of that happening. And so I am there to expose you.

That is all there is to it.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Here, here! Well said Duckhunter!

Count in me in this category as well. The day the Ute "fans" grow up and move on to the conference they said they were moving to will be a happy day. Until then I can expect these "fans" to continually compare every achievement (if it happens) to BYU.

BYU's legacy lives on in spite of a few upsets that the Utes claim as some major superiority in football.

All other sports... please take a number. (except gymnastics)

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Duckhunter said:

"I comment on utah articles bcause it bugs the living stuff out of you and every other utah "fan" out there. No other reason, that is the only one.

And my point about utah "fans" being "concerned" has nothing to do with you commenting on an article about BYU, I LIKE when you guys comment on BYU articles. Very entertaining. I has everything to do with all of you being absolutely scared to death that BYU may make a move that trumps utah. You live in constant fright of that happening. And so I am there to expose you.

That is all there is to it."

Well it's official. You have already admitted to living on this website. And now admit to being a troll.
Nice.

JohnInSLC
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"You live in constant fright of that happening."

Ducky:

Wow, a full-time y "fan" troll AND a psychic!

One thing I do not worry about is that you and sam might actually make sense.

LOL, indeed!!

MLH
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Ducky and sam

You have been served for what you really are. Jealous trolls that cannot stand your own football program so you need to bug the living stuff out of us Utah fans that get to watcxh OUR team compete in a real confrence, with real champions, with real oppurtunities to play for something, against real NFL caliber players, you play for nothing, everbody at the Y gets a trophy because you play the game to just play. BYU CANNOT BEAT UTAH, enjoy that Hawaii game fellas

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