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In our opinion: Lax enforcement, actions of few at fault, not Utah's liquor laws

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  • Happy Valley Heretic Orem, UT
    Sept. 24, 2012 12:40 p.m.

    procuradorfiscal said: Re: ". . . we need to keep a close eye on the legislators who create the environment under which the regulators operate." And an even closer eye on the insanely wealthy and unbelievably unethical people in the "hospitality" industry, from whom all the resources to engage in this corruption flow."

    Seem kinda empty coming from the defender of Every major polluter in Utah's right to pollute land (inland) sea and air for profit.

  • procuradorfiscal Tooele, UT
    Sept. 20, 2012 4:07 p.m.

    Re: ". . . we need to keep a close eye on the legislators who create the environment under which the regulators operate."

    And an even closer eye on the insanely wealthy and unbelievably unethical people in the "hospitality" industry, from whom all the resources to engage in this corruption flow.

  • Fitz Murray, UT
    Sept. 20, 2012 1:23 p.m.

    For those on this comment board advocating privatizing liquor sales, you have clearly not been following the results of Washington State's experience. Washington State was a control state, just as Utah is now. An initiative was put on the ballot to privatize liquor sales and last year it passed. The results include a 27% increase in liquor prices state wide. People are leaving Washington and going to Idaho or Oregon to buy their liquor at a much cheaper price.

    I hear complaints all the time about the liquor prices, but if you follow what is happening in Washington, and you continue to advocate privatization, then I guess you like the concept of paying more, in this case 27% more.

    I think time, money and effort would be better spent to increase the number of license, remove the "Zion Curtain" and do whatever else needs to be done to improve Utah's image when it comes to liquor. While I don't drink, the tourists do and tourism is a huge part of Utah's economy. We need more common sense in our liquor laws. We can be a control state and have reasonable liquor laws, it is possible.

  • Abe Sarvis Cedar City, UT
    Sept. 20, 2012 11:49 a.m.

    Anybody who thinks the regulation of alcohol in Utah works well hasn't the business expertise to successfully run a hot dog cart. It is, in every possible way, a dismal example of the excesses of government. If it weren't a government mandated monopoly, the DABC would have gone out of business decades ago.

  • DVD Taylorsville, 00
    Sept. 19, 2012 9:57 p.m.

    Is the lax enforcement we see in the state because of trying to force 1 person to do 5 full-time jobs in order to keep taxes low?

  • Fitness Freak Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 2:39 p.m.

    As a conservative Republican I will be voting for Peter Cook for Guv.

    I don't see much of ANY leadership exhibited by Herbert. He doesn't act - rather he reacts when the media exposes MORE and more problems.

    State government is loaded with cronyism and ineptitude. Its because of YEARS of total control of Utah by just a few Republicans in leadership positions.

    I don't have any problem with Republicans running things IF they're competent. Herbert isn't!
    Here are just a few of Herberts' mistakes.
    NOBODY gets fired for paying a contractor for NOT doing a job.
    State troopers who are kept on the payroll even when they can't be trusted in a court of law.
    The DABC mess.
    The energy solutions problem.
    Herberts' "dropping the ball" on urging the state legislature to get tough with illegal immigration.
    ALl state agencies need to be audited/evaluated top to bottom. Utahns deserve better than what we have in state government.

  • John C. C. Payson, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 1:11 p.m.

    I agree. Alcohol sale and consumption should be regulated. Those who regulate it apparently also need to be regulated.

    And we need to keep a close eye on the legislators who create the environment under which the regulators operate. The current ones want to reduce regulation and let businesses have a free hand in making their profits.

  • Impartial7 DRAPER, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 12:23 p.m.

    Mountanman. I dunno. Maybe it's because alcohol & caffeine have proven health benefits when used in moderation. Kinda like religion- good in small doses. Very dangerous when overused.

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 12:21 p.m.

    @Mountanmann
    First, clearly you don't drink. Which is fine, but if you don't know anything about drinking stop pretending that you do. Second, I go to the bar a couple times a month. I promise you, it's not like hitting myself in the head with a hammer, 3 or 4 beers occasionally aren't going to hurt anyone but an alcoholic, and the whole money thing... I know for a fact I don't spend 10% of my income on booze...

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    Sept. 19, 2012 10:30 a.m.

    Why would anyone with a brain drink alcohol? Why not just hit yourself in the head with a hammer every day, the effects are about the same and think of the money you would save!

  • Hutterite American Fork, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 10:08 a.m.

    Free liquor from government tyranny before government thinks it can regulate your guns.

  • Noodlekaboodle Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 19, 2012 8:24 a.m.

    Let's allow the free market to work. Eliminate socialized liquor.