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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 18 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Someone touted getting rid of capital gains as a bad thing. What about farmers? Land rich and money poor, their only gain may have been in the inheritance of land. They are taxed on it HUGE if they try to sell it. Cap Gains hurts more than rich people.


Shelama seems to have a problem with stay at home moms and the fact that they are at home rearing the next generation instead of out there with the workers. Sounds Maoist to me.

boise, id

The worst situation there is, is to be willing and able to work to support yourself and your family and not be able to find or keep a job or jobs that allow you to do that.
The idea that 47% of American want the government to just hand them a hand out is demeaning and wrong to most of those people who can't find work. Romney's background is in capital decisions, and whether he accepts or deserves the responsibility for the outsourcing that Bain Capital was responsible for, that is the associations he has. If he can dismiss 47% of the people as victims by choice he doesn't dererve my vote and this is from an active member of the LDS church. As far as regurgitating things from the left, no. As an independant wishing we had better choices I continue to believe in the country I and so many others have bled and died for deserves the best we have to give. Romney simply doesn't offer the best choice, especially for us 47%ers. Disabled Vietnam Veteran and LDS Sunday School President.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT


You're right, his draft lottery number never came up. But, the truth of the matter is that he applied for and received four deferments.

In 2007 he said in an interview "I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam."

If he longed so much to be there, why didn't he volunteer when he returned form France? The Army could have used his great leadership talents.

Funny how the strongest proponents of war are the ones who never fight in them.

Durham, NC

Add 16 million victim senior citizens to the list who pay no income tax.

Hawkyo... what you are missing is 100% of Mitts income is capital gains. If this passes, he would owe NOTHING in taxes on his multi-million dollar a year income. No social security. No medicare. NADA. This is a policy directly aimed at people like himself and his kids that will be living on capital gains fed trust funds.

Now of course if he is President, he will have a W2, and will have to pay taxes then... or at least I would hope so.

But I am with you on the problem of families trying to pass down to their kids the fruits of their labors. I think that revenue should be off the table. The government should not benefit from a loved ones passing. That is simply wrong any way you dice it.

Herbert Gravy
Salinas, CA

Kinda "inelegant" like "YOU DIDN'T BUILD THAT"? Oh my. To what lengths won't the liberals go to find another "distraction"? Let's focus on generating jobs and cutting expenses (a la entitlements, etc, etc.). And there is nothing to apologize for! I guess a politician who tells the truth, no matter "inelegantly", is suspect. Let's get real, folks. We have a crisis on our hands. Let's not fiddle while Rome (or the Middle East) is burning. Wake up and smell the coffee, er roses. Come on America, we can do much better than trifle like this with our future. Waddya say team?

Herbert Gravy
Salinas, CA

I guess we all should vote for "HOPE AND CHANGE" again. Uh huh. That was REAL specific, wasn't it. Anybody up for more of the same?

USS Enterprise, UT

To "williary" unfortunately you are living the liberal lie. When the Depression first hit, people took care of their neighbors. Food stamps or government food programs were not needed.

You also forget that it was the actions of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd that mandated the lower lending standards that lead to our problems. How can you honestly say that Republicans ran the economy into the ground when the Democrats were controlling the Senate Banking Comittee, and Congress long before things melted down. Logic would say that the Democrats ran the economy into the ground, and now, to ensure it stays there, they have amplified any poorly conceived Republican plan.

Tell us, how did Republicans run the economy into the ground? Was is with $400 billion deficits? Was it the war that Democrats continue to support and fund? How about the increased costs of government health insurance programs? Since you know it all, what did republicans do differently than the current set of Democrats that destroyed the economy?

Salt Lake City, UT

The ironic thing is that this comment was made at a $50,000 a plate dinner. A family of four making $50,000 a year would end up paying federal income tax. You people understand that right? This comment was made at a insanely expensive dinner, A dinner that costs around 2x the amount of money someone who doesn't pay federal taxes makes in an entire year! Mitt isn't the middle class and looks at the middle class as worthless. But i'm sure he will stand up for you as president..........Or not.

Salt Lake City, UT

Not Elegant, but then the truth about Obama being a "Food Stamp President" is the truth!

Only the welfare irresponsible clan will vote for Obama!


CHS if the deferrments were granted, how is it wrong? CLinton completely dodged the draft and fled the country to avoid it and libs have nothing to say about it.

Utah Blue since when is it fair to punish those who have lived and earned the american dream? He didn't steal his money, he didn't win it in the lottery, he earned it through his own work. Physical labor is not the only honest work in the world.If Romney or anyone else has built up their finances honestly to a point where they don't need to earn more money and actually have their money working for them, why is that a punishable offense to libs?

boise, id

@ Red Shirt

Helping our neighbors? that is wonderful and christian thing to do. IT doesn't work when all your neighbors need help too. When the 1% starts sending out invites to their club won't life be grand. Last time I checked the depression was pushed back by government action building dams,schools and electic projects then ended by the economic stimulus of World War II. Unfortunately, Bush's war is having the opposite effect costing jobs at home rather than creating them.

Salt Lake City, UT

I am a moderate income male who has worked all his life, and paid income taxes all of his life. I have contributed to social security and medicare and I now am "dependent" on these programs surviving for my life and my wife's. I now know what Brother Romney believes about me for sure. I suspected as much. I hope Romney takes a vicious trouncing in the coming election, and will do everything I can to make it so. Of course he will get Utah. He can have Utah if the rest of us get the balance of the country. A fair exchange, don't you think?

City, Ut

Everyone is so concerned or so gleeful with Romney's struggling campaign, with his mis-statements, his courage to sometimes be bold and tell it like it is--and the GOP big wigs all whinging that he isn't farther ahead in the polls....blah blah blah.

So what if he doesn't win??

Sure, he'll be disappointed.
For about ten minutes.

Then he will REJOICE that he is free of this insane asylum nightmare that would be his as
President--and all its mine fields and unfixable problems.

USS Enterprise, UT

To "rick122948" you have a pessimistic view of your neighbors. The fact is that many of those receiving government benefits don't really need them. Think about how often you see a person using WIC or another food program buying food with their benefits, then pay cash for cigaretts and beer, while talking on a smart phone. I may sound uncaring, but it seems like they have sufficient money without the government help, but choose to spend it on things other than the necessities.

You are also wrong about the Depression. The government regulations on price controls, food production, wage controls, and employment, along with the other big government programs prolonged the depression for 7 years. WWII only hid the unemployment problem by sending the enemployed off to war.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Maybe he can come back to run for office in Utah after he gets trounced Nationally.

Utahns will vote for him and throw their money at him no matter WHAT he says/does.


Redshirt, are you one of the 47% ?

Bill in Nebraska
Maryville, MO

I love it when members of the Church spell out that they are active, their position and the fact that they are a veteran. That doesn't amount to a hill of beans and means nothing in this conversation. Fact is I too am an a Vietnam Veteran. I too am in one of those 47% but I do pay taxes and in most instances I end up paying more at the end of the year. I very seldom get any taxes back even if I deduct my charitable contributions to the Church so those of you who continue to spout things really offend me and others like me. Romney is the best choice whether you want to admit it or not. Romney is not a socialist as our current President IS. Romney is not out to destroy our constitution as the current President IS. Romney may be rich and part of the rich and famous but he has more knowledge of running a proper government that our current President DOES. If you are offended by Romney's comments then you are part of the problem not part of the solution.

Salt Lake City, Utah

Just so I understand it is the democrats that play the class warfare card right? Mitt Romney has said some stupid things, but this one tops them all. Wouldn't it be interesting if one year in the last 10 Mr. Romney has not paid any income taxes. Of course we will never find that out because he won't release his taxes.

Cottonwood Heights, UT

So have we sold our birthright for a mess of pottage? We are offended when a statement is made, which if applied on a general broad scale is essentially the truth. We lash out with open fangs when someone tugs at our security blanket, and pops our dripping wrinkled thumb out of our mouth. Obama may get some yardage out of this because he has succeeded in pushing us over the precipice of dependency. He enslaves 50% of the electorate with hollow grandiose words, and we’re satisfied and comfortable with his free stuff, and he and his progressive ilk will reign with power and control. That is until the well runs dry as in Europe. Then we’ll scream and rage on with riotous furor because our blankets are gone, our thumbs are dry and rotted, and the government coffers are empty. Security? How about fire balls, cars exploding, riots, and chaos. We are fools being led to the slaughter.

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