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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 18 2012 7:37 a.m. MDT

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FT
salt lake city, UT

The best argument for an Obama 2nd term is his opponent. This election cannot get over fast enough.

IndependentLiberal
Salt Lake City, UT

Stick a fork in this guy...Is he done? He made these remarks in the retirement capital of the USm Boca Raton FL where at a minimim 47% of the population is relying on government Social Security. Latest Odds on the Electorial Count before this blunder is Obama 305 Romney 230.

Evets
Eagle Mountain, UT

The sad part is that Romney is absolutely right. Furthermore it is Romney, not Obama, that could be the best hope for that 47% as he would provide opportunities for them to succeed and not be victums of big government.

FT
salt lake city, UT

@Evets

Romney is right? First of all, a lot of that 47% contributes or contributed a lot to the betterment of our society. They may pay property taxes, state taxes, income taxes etc. They are our parents or sick neighbors living on social security, or needing medicaid or medicare. They could be teachers, single parents, or people who have 2 jobs trying to make enough to get by. People complain about big goverment until no one is there to address the ills of our society. Romney would be winning this election easily if he would provide credible details as to how he would cure the economy. He was a terrible Govenor (leaving office with a 35% approval rating) and has no credibility with the majority of Americans. While many Americans are not satisfied with Obama the majority won't simply vote for Romney because of that. They want substance, details and charecter. So far in this election, Americans are not convinced he is providing any of those.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

So it's the 47%'s fault that people like Romney pay them so little they arn't even in the first federal income tax bracket.

Why isn't it important who actually build things, fixes things and does actual labor to Mitt? He has no value of work. All he's ever done is write checks and things magically happen. (by poor people that labor for a living)

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

One wonders if mit is part of the 47% who pay no income taxes?

A recent IRS report showed that 20,752 households that reported earning more than $200,000 in 2009 paid no federal income taxes. About 1,500 of those tax-free Americans were millionaires.

A lot of people who pay no income taxes are using the loopholes and deductions designed for them, as low income, hard working families. The same deductions which mit used to pay less (percentage wise) on his taxes (that he has released) than most average Americans, as constantly defended by the far right as "legal." So why is it, that when poor, working or retired people use the legal means to reduce their tax burden, they are freeloaders?

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

Funny, when I was an Air Force active duty E-3 with a wife and child, I paid no federal income tax. I received am "Earned Income Credit" because my income was so low as I put on my uniform every day and went to work in conditions that Mitt never even knows exist.

I guess I was a "victim."

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

This is one of those instances where Romney believes everything he said, but now has to try to make it look like he doesn't believe it or needs to clarify it. I'm really waiting for a candidate to stand up and say, This is what I believe. If you don't like it, don't vote for me. If you do, then vote for me.

Mountanman has stated in the past that it doesn't matter what Romney or Obama says, because we have all made up our minds already, or at least most of us have. Nothing could be further from the truth: I keep waiting for Romney to give me a reason to vote for him, something that would change my mind, but he only says what he wants the particular group he is talking to at the moment to hear. Mitt, speak your mind and stick to it!

FT
salt lake city, UT

@CHS 85

Thank you for your service to our country. It's because of people like you that we enjoy our freedom. Although I am fortunate enough to be in the 53% of Americans who are in a position to pay federal taxes I do not consider you or anybody in our military as a victim or free loader. Govenor Romney should apologize to you and others in the 47% he is writing off. If not, he does not have a chance to turn his campaign around.

Fred44
Salt Lake City, Utah

I to would like to thank you CHS 85 and all those men and women who are or have been in the military for your service to our country. I gladly will pay my income tax to help those wonderful men in women in our armed services past and present. I would also support an increase in military spending if that spending went directly to the troops past and present. I would be willing to pay more in taxes for that as well.

I am with you xscribe, I to have been trying to find a reason to vote for Mr. Romney. This statement clearly shows he does not get it. Since he believes that corporations are people to, shouldn't he call out the big banks who took bailout money, the oil companies who get taxpayer subsidies each year, General Electric who paid no US tax, but no he calls out the working poor, the elderly those in our society who are least able to help themselves because they constitute the majority of that 47%. This election is all but over because Mr. Romney continues to pander to the extreme right.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

To xscribe 8:25 a.m. Sept. 18, 2012

. . . Mitt, speak your mind . . .

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He just did, and we all found out how little he values anyone who isn't one of his peer group (the "haves" and "have-mores" to quote GWBush). He finally told the truth about what he thinks. I am now wondering how "Mr. Flip-Flop", "Mr. Etch-A-Sketch", is going to handle this episode of foot-in-mouth disease.

O'really
Idaho Falls, ID

This is total spin by the Dem media mob. Where in his statement does he say or even infer that he doesn't care about those who don't pay income tax? Of course he cares!! Why do you think he is so valiantly trying to become president? So that he can change the course of America which at present is headed right off a financial cliff. The federal government cannot afford to support so many of it's citizens. Romney wants to help people help themseves, get them working, being productive and feeling good about themselves again. Obama wants to get the nation under his allpowerful thumb so that he is in control. It's Romney who cares more deeply about the poor and down-trodden than Obama.You don't help people who are down by keeping them penned into a never ending cycle of dependency. You give them a hand-up by finding them a job. And that ISN'T going to happen if we over-tax the business owners who could create those jobs.

Come on Dems. Romney's way is the only way we're going to get out of this downward spiral.

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

Furry1993: My quote was "Mitt, speak your mind and stick to it!" I guess my point is your point: He does speak his mind, but when it doesn't get the attention he wants, he changes his mind or tries to clarify. He is the master of flip-flop and saying what his current audience wants to hear.

A1994
Centerville, UT

So this is the drum the left will pound for the next week or so. Then the next jobs report is going to come down the pipe and people are going to realize that we HAVE to make a change. Obama isn't up to helping the 47% become self reliant.

Millsap fan
Taylorsville, UT

Romney couldn't be more correct. People who vote for Obama ask what else can the government do for me? Since Obama has been in office more people are on welfare, food stamps, and unemployment then before he took office. And they are not getting off it anytime soon. Therein lies the problem.

rightascension
Provo, UT

The Deseret News really needs a tab under the masthead marked "Justifying Mitt" for all the defensive articles your reporters churn out on him. I suppose it would be easy to say that Romney's comment was taken out of context. Under what context is implying that 47 percent of Americas are co-dependent mooches a good thing?

O'really
Idaho Falls, ID

Furry 1993- Romeney's so -called "Foot-In-Mouth" disease is nothing of the sort. He speaks TRUTH and then the libs and Democrats take his words out of context, spin them, distort them and turn them into something there were not.

In saying he doesn't care about the 47% on welfare, he was talking about their vote, not their person/soul/individual worth. 47% of voters aren't likely to change thier vote at this point because they are so dependent on Obama's plan to keep them on welfare. So when he ways he "doesn't care" he's essentially saying, "Our focus and CONCERN (care) in relation to gathering votes needs to be on the taxpayers who currently support Obamba. We need to change their minds." And why would he possibly want to change their minds? So he can change policy that will in turn inspire more influential business owners to create jobs rather than paying the government in taxes to in turn pay people to stay unemployed. It's not rocket science.

I'm so sick of dems prepostrous autop-spin on Romney's words rather than listening to what he's really saying.

merich39
Salt Lake City, UT

I started working when I began college and have paid FIT every year in the 30+ yrs since then. I've never been on government assistance.

This latest peek into the mind of Mitt Romney is not an aberration. Mitt has shown over and over again his disdain for those who are not wealthy like himself. He has shown that he has absolutely no capacity to understand the 99%. He is incapable of representing me.

EdGrady
Idaho Falls, ID

And the other 53% are born to auto industry CEOs.

Millsap fan
Taylorsville, UT

@screwdriver

The media has done a great job of portraying Romney as completely out of touch with the poor or even middle class. But here are the facts:

Romney gave away his entire inheritance, ALL OF IT. As a young married college student he lived in a basement apartment with cement walls and floors refusing assistance from his or Ann's parents because they wanted to make it in their own. He never took a salary as governer. He's paid for others' college education. He has donated massive amounts of his income to charity. He's been a bishop responsible for the welfare of the poor in his congregation.

Romney knows that true happiness comes to those who work for a living and dint rely on unemployment

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