Mountainman,To answer your question " Do you really think a
person who does not pay federal income taxes will vote for Romney?" YES,
they do it all the time. Utah for example has the 13 lowest percentage of its
potential tax payers who pay any federal income tax and yet the vote
overwhelmingly republican every year. Same for Idaho.
Are you conservatives really going to blame the media if Romney ends up losing?
UBD: you take me far to seriously. Anyone who thinks the worlds problems will be
solved in the forums of the Des news, and gets as uptight as people here do,
needs to eat more bran. I prefer an occasional lighthearted look at things,
especially when some get so desperate to throw stones.
Romney's controlers have found that they can not win a debate about the
ecconomy. Nobody wants a return to the failed policies of the Bush
administration, and that is all that they are proposing to do. That really is
the only thing of signifcance that the Republicans are offering. They will try
to draw attention away from that fundamental by pulling out the only thing that
has worked for them in the past, guns and babies. The insiders really don't
care about either, but they know those issues will touch the emotional core of
many of their less informed members. The reason that drum hasn't been
beaten already is that the oposition quit fighting them on that front. They
would start debating gay mariage and minorities right to vote if they thought
they could get away with it. They have already had some of their members
questioning women's right to vote.
Polls? -- whatever...Obama = 332Romney = 206270 in
needed to win.
Romney, romney, romney. Never mind him. For the good of the nation, he needs to
lose. How can we help obama defeat him?
@ alt134. Today’s Rasmussen poll, which was the most accurate poll in the
last election, has Romney ahead of Obama by 4 points. But don’t
misunderstand me, I think Obama has the best chance being re-elected because
some 47% of Americans pay no federal income taxes. Do you really think a person
who does not pay federal income taxes will vote for Romney? If it were a law
that actual income tax payers were the only ones who could to vote, Democrats
would never win any election! What I can’t understand is why Democrats
hate and demean rich people (except their own). Of all people, Democrats should
revere, respect and admire “rich” people for giving them a free
Looking forward to the debates, when I hope we will be able to find out more
about what each candidate believes and plans to do, and not so much about what
the "other guy" is not doing, or cannot do, etc. I support Mitt Romney,
because I know that he is smarter, and much more capable than he sometimes
appears to be. He is admittedly not a great public speaker, but that
doesn't mean he doesn't have some great ideas, as well as good plans
for implementing those ideas. I don't care what his tax returns say. I care
about what he will do to help improve the economic condition of our country, and
of the individuals who are hurting for work.
CBS over sampled registered voters by 13 percent and likely voters by 6 percent
(yet in the 2008 election, Democrats only outnumbered Republicans by 7 percent
and in 2004 it was 0), yet CBS only has Obama winning by 3 and 8 points
respectively, which are both significantly lower than the over sample.It is all about headlines and creating memes for the media to run with.
atl134;I believe that Mountainman was speaking of Pollish people,
not actual oppinion poles. There seems to be a little confusion in some
For those of you who want to blame the media for Romney's poor showing -
check again. Factual comparisons of stories and headlines in the MSM show that
there are many more negative headlines and stories about Obama than there are
about Romney. Granted - there are some news sources that are outliers in one
direction or the other, but overall Romney is presented much more favorably than
Obama.As for jobs, the current economy is on track to create 12
million new jobs over the next four years - Romney is promising nothing new.And so far he has not provided any specifics for how he is going to
accomplish the things he says he is going to accomplish. Give me details - tell
me item by item what loopholes are going to be closed and what programs are
going to be eliminated - give me enough information that I can make an informed
decision and not have to just take his word for it.
romney has been running for the POTUS for 8 years...For Pete's
sake.Surely, by now, with only 50+ days left, undecided voters have
got to know the specifics regarding his laser-like formulas to make everything
all better real fast?Now, undecided voters find that the romney
campaign will get back to them on specifics? Marvelous.
@Mountanman"That’s why he is leading Obama in many of the most
recent polls. "Real Clear Politics averages of recent
polls...Nationally: Obama 48.5 Romney 45.5 O+3.0New Hampshire: Obama
47.3 Romney 43.3 O+4.0Ohio: Obama 48.5 Romney 44.3 O+4.2Virginia:
Obama 48.3 Romney 46.8 O+1.5Florida: Obama 47.8 Romney 46.5 O+1.3Wisconsin: Obama 48.2 Romney 46.8 O+1.4Iowa: Obama 45.0 Romney 44.8
O+0.2Colorado: Obama 48.3 Romney 45.3 O+3.0Michigan: Obama 48.0
Romney 41.7 O+6.3Pennsylvania: Obama 48.7 Romney 40.3 O+8.4Missouri:
Romney 50.3 Obama 43.0 R+7.3Nevada: Obama 49.0 Romney 45.7 O+3.3North Carolina: Romney 49.8 Obama 45.0 R+4.8Before the conventions
they were about tied, since the conventions Romney only had a 1-2 point bounce
and Obama had 3-4 from his so it's left Obama back up to the 2-3 point lead
he had pre-Ryan pick.
We've gained private sector jobs 30 months in a row. You conservatives have
weird definitions of "failure" and "making things worse". @Counter Intelligence"Why didn't the author point out
that Carter was 6 points ahead of Reagan at this point in the campaign "Because that sort of comeback isn't the norm, and Romney is no
Reagan. @ute alumni"barry never changes his mind? right?
gay marriage."It's obvious that Obama always supported gay
marriage during his political career and just kept his view closeted for a
while. After all, what the heck does "evolving" mean? It means "like
heck am I going to support this until the rest of the nation gets to where
having this view doesn't make you unelectable". Basically, it's
the same sort of logic that leads Romney to be on just about every side of just
about every issue.
Changing you mind with a logical rational behind it is a good thing. Only
complete fools never change their mind. I don't mind if either change
their mind on a issue from time to time, or have those mature over time.Thank heaven some people have changed their views on race, women vote,
equality for all people, non-land holders having the right to vote, people being
valued at 3/5th the value of others, segregation, religious freedom. All these
represent deviations from the days standard thinking. A
willingness to learn and change you mind shows a thriving intellect. Those who
refuse to be open to new ideas show a level of arrogance that I would never want
to see in the White House - no matter the party they are aligned to.
When I listen to a speech presented these days by President Obama I feel like
I'm listening to a Republican candidate for president. No wonder
there's a perception of little difference between him and Mr. Romney. Not
only should Mr. Romney clarify his message, to show differences between his and
President Obama's policies, but he should also clarify the differences
between President Obama's actions and his 2008 promises and his renewals of
those promises in 2012. President Obama's speeches and promises do not
speak as loudly as his actions and Mr. Romney would do well not only to clarify
his own agenda but continue to clarify that President Obama's agenda is
revealed more by his actions than by his speeches and promises.
Mountanman;You only need talk to a few Olympic vollunteers to find
out that Mitt is not the man he is trying to paint himself as. As for his hiding
income tax returns, he has either been less than truethful to the IRS or to the
American people. If he releases those documents, it will expose him. It
isn't the press that is causing him to drop in the poles, it is his own
actions, or lack of action. He has almost no chance of winning in November.
barry never changes his mind? right? gay marriage. i wish barry would as his
decisions continue to be disastrous
Willard changes his mind yet again?
@ Oldrunner. You are right; people are discovering the real Mitt, not as the
Democrats have tried to paint him but as he really is! That’s why he is
leading Obama in many of the most recent polls. You can fool some of the people
all the time, but nobody can fool all the people all the time! Obama has fooled
some people but he isn’t fooling most people!
Ned, if you aren't sure what the policies are... you're not looking
very hard. You can see them every day - for better or worse - because they are
in force right now. Hence why there haven't been a lot of questions about
"what are you going to do"..... he is doing. Like it or not.On the other hand, one man is running for office that isn't currently
president yet. And he is the one who has the burden of proof to detail what he
would do if he had the opportunity to serve. One is doing... the other wants to
do. Therefor, yes, the burden on Romney is a bit higher.This is
much along the line of the "Repeal Obamacare" change. That in its self
isn't something that is actionable. If you are going to undo something -
you must do something else. That something else has never been detailed.
Perhaps Obamacare would be easily overturned if we had an option. But this is
like discussing with our kids what they will do today - when all they will
answer is what they won't do.
The biggest hurdle Mitt Romney faces to election is a mainstream media that
DESPERATELY is trying to get Barack Obama re-elected.The last few
months they have mostly been "spinning" the facts. Over the weekend I
began to see them actually "fibbing".As desperation sets in
for the mainstream media, I suspect it will get much worse.
People are discovering the true Mitt. They aren't liking what they are
finding. Not in Utah, mind you. Nationally, his numbers are dropping like a
I would love to see BO forced to discuss specifics intead of the general
mish-mash he spouts now. I'm tired of his trying to play etch-a-sketch time
after time -- it's well-past time to tie him down to something... Giggles.
Tax returns, Mitt. Your credibility suffers more and more every day you
don't share them.And btw, the best tweet seen this week:
"The Dow is now at a 4-year high. Obama is the world's worst
This article is a great example of Associated Press selective fact presentation
journalist editorializing"The struggling campaign" - Why
didn't the author point out that Carter was 6 points ahead of Reagan at
this point in the campaign "Lack of momentum" - Romney has
continuously narrowed the gap and is on course for November. The supposed
convention bump of Obama has disappeared and he still polls below 50%, which is
horrible for an incumbent (even in skewed polls that over sample Democrats).Carter attempted to portray Reagan as a mad warmonger much the same way
Obama has tried to portray Romney as a vultureCarter lost when he debated
Reagan and it became obvious Carter was lying.Obama will face the
It sounds like his campaign is in shambles and in need of a "turn around
expert". Much like the 2002 Olympic Committee needed in SLC back in 1999?
These shifts in strategy in the Romney campaign are because what the campaign
has been based on so far are not working. Banking on voter discontent with Obama
is not going to carry him to victory. They see that now and time is running out.
I would love to see Willard forced to discuss specifics intead of the general
mish-mash he spouts now. I'm tired of his trying to play etch-a-sketch
time after time -- it's well-past time to tie him down to something.
Yes, we are now moving off the "I am rubber, you are glue" phase to the
"I know you are but what am I" phase campaigning. I
anxiously await the debates to see how there gents work in a less scripted
environment, and one where they have to talk about themselves rather than
pointing out the flaws in the other candidate. One can hope..... but
expectations are extremely low.Obama needs to explain how he intends
to pull the nation off its 1 trillion plus over spending habit.Romney needs to explain how he really thinks he can go into an economic war
with China without damaging the US economy.. Lots more to be told
on how they plan on doing things, and mush less on pointing out the other's
momentum? really. jobs, failed. american security worldwide, failed. gas prices
$4 a gallon, failed. leadership, failed. economy in the toilet, failed. sounds
to me like a new definition of momentum. I guess it is true you get momentum
when you go downhill.