Imacan"... we have a shot at the Rose Bowl" LOLAnd I complimented Hays.patriot blabbered..."How
long will fans be content with this mediocre football program under Bronco and
Tom H.??"Unlike a fickle Ute fan that calls for a coaches head
each year in basketball, BYU fans are loyal with their coaches and team. Look no
further than Salt Lake Commuter College for the 'band wagon / fair weather
fans'.What's a BYU fan that's not content to do,
become a Ute fan??? We have a team that wins consistently and gets ranked... we
will gut it out.Your team barely beat BYU and lost to USU...
Definitely roses, definitely. LOLCarson"... worry
about their team and get off the Utes backs." boo hooThe day
the swarms of BYU haters and/or Ute fans move off of the BYU articles I'm
out of here. I'm just waiting for day the Utes to grow up and take their
place in the PAC 12 and act like the mighty team and fans they want to be but it
seems everything a Ute does is continually compared to BYU.Go
@carsonActually it is probably time you start worrying about utah. I
predict a poor rest of the season for them as they were very poor offensively in
the game Saturday. Now part of that has to be credit to BYU's defense, but
a lot of it is that they are just plain bad on offense. You realize they never
had one sustained scoring drive against BYU don't you? They actually only
drove the ballacross mid field one time all game and on that possession they
didn't even score. All three of their offensive scores came on short
fields. Their other score came on a defensive play. Yes you should
spend your time worrying about that, not me or Sammyg. I do like being in your
head though. LOL!
@imacmanUh...those remarks about hays came from utah "fans"
like you, not me. I just agreed. I still agree, he is not particularly good but
he is all you have so get what you can get out of him.
I think it's time that Ducky and his little pal Sammy start worrying about
their team and get off the Utes backs. Your team needs your support...You Lost!
Look at the stats; utah isn't very good; we gave it away with mistakes and
turnovers, etc., blah, blah, blah.An old football axiom that is
still true today- you make your breaks.And to Duckhunter, et al-
anymore snide, small nobody-school remarks about John Hays? I didn't think
so. Your A team got beat by our B team. And we still have a shot at the Rose
Bowl. At least you can do your part to fight hunger.
Hate to say I told you so but I told you so. Nelson would be overwhelmed in this
game and sure enough he was. It seemed like nearly every time Nelson touched the
ball it was either a fumble or an interception. Some of his fumbles were
recovered by BYU. BYU has some good receivers in Hoffman and others but no QB to
get the ball to them. Bronco and Doman have ruined BYU football.
That was the funnest time I have ever had rooting for Utah! Watching the Riley
Nelson love train derailed was hilarious! I can only hope that other Cougar fans
can see what I've been telling everyone for over a year about that guy. A
BYU legend in the making...Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!....
Just waiting to see whether Mendenhall announces Lark or Hill as the starting QB
Dick,Nice write up. Keeping on point, missed field goals even after
a second chance to tie the game is poor. Riley has the heart of a loin, but
can’t throw to talented “OPEN” receivers. The miscues and
mistakes kill this offense in the last few years in every big game played. A
loss only bothers me when we repeatedly make the same mistakes in every major
game that counts. There should be no more talk from Bronco about being in the
top 10 until he can win a big game at home or on the road. Until the head coach
can beat the TCU's,Utah's and win a BCS game, we will just be a good
football team NOT a great one! The players are hardworking kids that deserve
some fire from the side line, not a fire side.
I give more credit to the crowd. Nelson postgame said they did not handle noise
well. So true. Strange to see BYU choke year after year against Utah. But
here's the deal. Offensive play calling was strange. Why all the options?
Where are the rollout passes? Did Nelson just run on all the rollouts? Where was
the pocket protection? Nelson said his arm got hit six or seven times. Certainly
twice that we all saw in slow motion.I don't expect to see the
center snap the ball early again this year. What was up with that? Twice? Crowd
noise? Fact is, ugly as the game was it was winnable. BYU's defense is
really real. They'll keep us in every game.Last post on this
game. Boise is a must-win. Lets focus on that one. The Holy War is over. Move
@nevadacoug,Unforced turn overs or the nameless BYU center wondering witch
way STAR was going to throw him!! I will admit Van Noy can do the same thing to
BYU has turned into Utah State. The little brother that tries to play spoiler
but never quite gets the job done against the U. The real Utah STate did get the
job done so where does that put BYU - the worst of the 3 in the Utah. How long
will fans be content with this mediocre football program under Bronco and Tom
H.?? I guess as long as the stands fill up with 55-60k then that's good
enough. That is what the Y is anymore - just a team on the level with Bowling
Green, and other mid American teams. Such a long drop off from where they were
under Lavell or even when they had Robert Anae. Remember John Beck and Max Hall?
Geez it seems like forever that BYU had an actual QB that could throw the ball
and an offense designed to get the ball downfield instead of the little 5 yard
dink and dunk passes along with a alot of boreing runs.
"...And that's a shame for a very good BYU defense. One of two
defenses on the field that did not deserve to lose...."Interesting thought from a sport writer.While one may think BYU
defense did not deserve to lose,Utah's defense won the game for the
Utes.Hays looked good. But JW was not there and Utah offensestruggled at times. They could not burn the clock at the end to close
the game out. Utah offense will improve with JW back and better O-line
play.But Utah D saved the day and the game.
3 serious problems for BYU have been revealed.ONE.They
need a new offensive line coach, Weber has been there over year and is not
getting the job done.They struggled last year and they are
struggling again with the o-lineTWOThey need a offensive
co-ordinator that believes in the forward pass and a quarterback that can throw
confidently in a forward pass system.BYU most best success and most
successful offenses come with the pass,BYU is not an option team
nor a running team, they must be passing teams BYU, having good running back
should not change that, thier best success and highest success (a NC) came with
the pass.While they had success with the run in recent history they
have not dominated offensively.They need to be throwing atleast 40
times a game and have atlest a 60/40 pass run ratioBYUs best
offensive success comes when they are averaging over 12 yards a pass,THIRD. Mendenhall is not a motivator, BYU players never look
motivated especially on the offensive side.Until these 3 things are
corrected BYU will continue low scoring games, may have winning seasons, but no
"hahahaha you byu fans excuses are getting more and moer hilarious every
article"Where did I make excuses? Would you please quote any
part of my comments that you deem an excuse please?
@sooneruteYes I'm sure. Nothing utah did last night, other than
win, was particularly impressive. I'm not trying to run them down either
but their offense is really bad. The defense is good although not the
"great" unit utah fans have proclaimed them to be. I believe BYU had
more sacks, more tackles for loss, and frankly looked much faster in my opinion.
Sadly BYU's qb is not very good, sure he's gritty and all those other
descriptions but he is just not good enough. Also Cody Hoffman was easily the
best offensive player on the field last night, Van Noy and Star probably tied
for best defensive player. If the talent gap is what utah fans claim
this game would not have been close and since you are one of the more reasonable
utah fans around here I'm sure in your mind you do realize utah was very
fortunate to win that game, not saying they didn't earn it, but they in no
way dominated or really even outplayed BYU. They did justbarely enough to win by
3 points.As a utah fan you should enjoy it for what it is.
Look at all these gloating Utes! After nearly blowing this game by having fans
rush the field they think they really accomplished something on their own. Quite
funny.So after the warm fuzzies of this game cool down just remember
this...Aggies put you down and in a couple of weeks that same
opportunity might happen for the Cougars.After losing to Colorado
last season, the Ute loss to USU is a stinging reminder that the Utes are
nothing special. And after last night's game it was just confirmed
again.You got the win but very few respectability points for doing
anything.Sad that my Aggies blew it on a FG. Ugh.
@nevadacoug"Utah's D played well. They always do. But they
did NOT force all of BYU's mistakes. Two plays directly led to 10 of
Utah's points: the interception and the bad snap that was picked up by Utah
and returned for a TD after TWO Cougars failed to fall on it. Utah didn't
cause either of those. On the INT, Nelson had time"hahahaha you
byu fans excuses are getting more and moer hilarious every article. this is like
christmas morning listening to all the spinning coming from you y fans. dizzy
yet?? haha and int is a FORCED TO whether you like it or not. its called a great
play by the defense. dont know what your ramblin on about.
Dick,Please ask Bronco what he will do to help Riley break through
his ceiling? Next time you're in a press conference ask Bronco what his
game plan is for Riley and the O'line. And please write a story about it.
We need to hold Bronco accountable for his $1M+ annual salary. Thanks,Troy
Here is an example of how far the Cougar program has fallen. After attending
church today, a member of our ward who played for the cougs in the mid 50's
approached me and told me how frustrated he was after watching the loss. He
indicated that he was inclined to not watch any more games due to the pain these
Utah losses cause him. I said to him, "what has happened to the Cougar
offense that we have grown to expect these many years?" He looked at me in
dismay, and said "What we saw last night WAS the Cougar offense I
experienced when I played at BYU in the 50's!" Sadly he was right.
As Dick suggests, the Utah State Aggies are for real and they showed the Utes
what needed to be fixed. I don't think BYU had been tested until last
night's game. Weber State is an FCS team and Washington State is still
operating at an FCS level. I suspect that we will see a very different team go
into to Boise State this coming Thursday, and don't be surprised if they
come away with a win. The crowd up there is loud and they are used to seeing
their team win on the Smurf Turf. I think BYU will be prepared for it though,
courtesy of the MUSS. Best of luck to our Cousins at the Team Down South! A Ute Fan.
"Sadly it seems that BYU has issues when it comes to playing these guys and
it isn't a talent gap. "Are you sure?Utah was
able to win this game without their starting quarterback, running back, and two
defensive backs. Is it a great talent gap? No, but it is growing. Certainly in
the "MWC days" Utah wouldn't have beaten BYU while missing 4 key
starters. Perhaps you don't see a talent gap because of the
over-confidence gained from beating Weber State and a Washington State team that
barely got by UNLV.Curious. Did you see something last night that
gives you confidence against Boise State and Utah State?You're
right that Utah has a great challenge ahead with conference play. What was
projected to be a two-team race in the South, just got rougher with the
improvement of UCLA and the Arizona schools. Utah has to overcome some set
backs, but its a lot better than last year when we were asking "who is Jon
I am really surprised that people aren't calling for a new offensive
@Norcalute:"I still predict that BYU will not field a team in
5-6 years...the writing is on the wall."I am intrigued by this.
I have heard this from other wishful thinking Uties. Why does BYU's
existence in the Sports Realm bother you so much? Are you (Utah) not getting
enough attention? It is like the Muslim countries in the Middle East claiming
Israel has no right to exist. You're saying, "We beat you so you
shouldn't be playing football." Does that mean Utah should give up
Basketball? I am just trying to understand your logic here.BYU WILL field
football and other sports for many decades to come.@ProudBB"So he credits the Utes' defense at several points for intimidating
the BYU O-Line into 2 errant snaps and multiple false starts, and then he
finishes with, "And that's a shame for a very good BYU defense. One of
two defenses on the field that did not deserve to lose"? Umm, so Utah's
defense DID deserve to lose? "Read it again Proud. Dick is
saying both defenses played very well and neither deserved to lose.A
little sensitive are we?
Did you not look at the stats? Byu had more total yards. The game was pretty
even. It was not dominated by anyone. Without the unforced fumble, Byu wins.
Utah did not force the bad snap, just the received a gift on that one.Last year the y got thumped, but they turned it around and had a better year.
Top 25. Utah cant say the same.
Oand gonefishn, yes utah won, no utah is not a very good team. Sadly it seems
that BYU has issues when it comes to playing these guys and it isn't a
talent gap. It starts with Bronco, who simply does not prepare his team very
well for this game, and then ocntinues on down the line. Pretty pathetic.But please do celebrate as this will once again be the sole highlight
for utah this year. It is always the biggest game they play and you can tell
they consider it to be that by how emotionallly hight they get. If BYU cannpt
ever match that then BYU will not beat them very often. You need to
prepare yourself for a bunch of utah losses the remainder of this season though.
Nothing they did last night, other than win I guess, was particularly
impressive. Far from it really.
rappahanockYea and I don't want the byu athletic dept to get
any of my tithing money. Show me where the State of Utah Legislature gives the
UNIVERSITY OF UTAH Athletic Department 10 million dollars.
Utah's D played well. They always do. But they did NOT force all of
BYU's mistakes. Two plays directly led to 10 of Utah's points: the
interception and the bad snap that was picked up by Utah and returned for a TD
after TWO Cougars failed to fall on it. Utah didn't cause either of those.
On the INT, Nelson had time. He didn't have anybody on top of him. He
just threw a horrible pass. On the other, it was just a lack of focus. It may
be the crowd factored into that one, but it wasn't the Utah D. In fact, I
give a ton of credit to the crowd. They made it hard for BYU to hear and
I'm sure were the cause of many of the false start penalties on BYU.Again, Utah's D played well. BYU's did also, except for the
last drive that allowed Utah to bury the Cougars deep at the end. But the
Cougars' miscues were largely their own doing.
You can say whatever you about the game, the truth of the matter is that Whitt
is in BUY's head, the Ute's defense forced BYU's mistakes, the
Ute's exicuted when they needed to. This was the Ute's games last
night from start to finish.I still predict that BYU will not field a
team in 5-6 years...the writing is on the wall.
Where is Duckhunter with his snide comments and ridiculous decorations? I'm
sure he will stick his head up sometime around July.
The BYU defense deserves much more credit that you are giving them in this
article. This game could have turned into a blowout in the 3rd quarter, but the
defense held firm and gave their team a chance to win. Yes, there were pass
plays and breakdowns on 3rd down that gave fans headaches, so they do not
deserve an A+, but they do deserve an A-.
"Like a rerun, a haunting repeat of a year ago, BYU's magic, luck,
living right, whatever ran out of the blessing piggy bank."Really Dick..... BYU blessing piggy bank? How inappropriate for a
BYU plays its worst game against Utah every year. I actually think BYU is now
intimidated...as much as that pains me to admit.Wrubel and Lyons
were right. BYU played "jittery" the whole night. 8 false starts,
fumbles, mis-snaps, and missed easy field goals.Look forward to
There could be four plays from the game in "ESPN's" NOT Top
10". The two goofy snaps past Riley, the Ute fans and players on the field,
and the last play-clanking the ball off the left upright.
Spin it however you want but neither of these teams is very good right now.
Riley has the heart but not the skills. Utah has a good D line but that is
about it. If BYU had a decent blocking game, a good QB could have tore apart
their secondary. 4th and 12 and BYU converts it? How do you let that happen?
Go watch the last play when 1 second was put back on the clock at the end.
BYU's receiver had once again burned his coverage and was wide open. If
BYU had a QB with a decent arm (which they do in Hill but for some reason he
isn't seeing the field much), that would have been a game winning TD.Both teams are in for a long year.
Right on the money! No offensive creativity by Doman at all in the 2nd half.
Every snap was from the shotgun, and therefore, our offensive production was
limited to scrambles and good hands on sloppy throws by Nelson. The stronger
team won. There should have been 7 more turnovers last night.
Great Teams Force Turnovers.The Utes are in the Cougies heads.Last year it was a Thump. This year it is a Thunk!Thunk;
the sound a football makes when it hits the goal post at a football game.Like the Y's commercial, "Its Game Day Every day" for the
next 365.25 days!Hang in there Band of Little Brothers.
I posted this on another article, about sums up how I feel-First off
congrats to the Utes, they played hard and wanted it more. Once again
out-coached and out-played. I was quite happy with how the defense played, they
really only gave up 17 points, should be good enough to win. The offense?
Yikes, they looked awful at times, I love Riley and he has the heart of a lion,
but he looked and acted shell-shocked the whole game. For a senior qb, it was
just really strange. I am sure we will beat the WAC nobodies, but it looks like
Riley will get flustered against good defenses. And how about the line block
somebody on field goals at RES? Good grief. Utah owns us, nothing else to say,
congrats again Utes.
Nice article Richard! Spot on...Not one me tion of John White joy
playing however! It would have benn closer to last years score with him
around.Right Duck and Worff? Right? You all must still be sleeping
I guess. Sleep must have been hard to find last night...nightmares are hard to
Wait, wait, wait... So he credits the Utes' defense at several points for
intimidating the BYU O-Line into 2 errant snaps and multiple false starts, and
then he finishes with, "And that's a shame for a very good BYU defense.
One of two defenses on the field that did not deserve to lose"? Umm, so
Utah's defense DID deserve to lose? After forcing five fumbles (and other
near fumbles), one interception, scoring 1 TD, blocking 1 FG (on special teams
defense), and making Riley Nelson's demeanor appear absolutely defeated at
certain points in the 3rd and 4th quarter? Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Utah
defense earned that one.
BYU football: great people. Just not a very good team.
Thanks to the BYU and Utah teams for working hard and giving us a great game.
Both teams are filled with men of conviction, grit and toughness that requires
the best out of each other.I hope that the fans can practice the
same type of sportsmanship and talk about what a great game this was - played by
two very good teams. These men played their hearts out and deserve the kind of
sportsmanship and good wishes from both sets of fans.Congratulation
to my rival Utah. You played a great game. I wish you the best of luck until
So much for the senior quarterback bologna! Perhaps the cougars were over rated
again. After all Utah got the win without their starting quarterback, their
leading rusher, a pair of their best densive backs, and a very poor showing from
their punter. BYU even got some help from the Utah fans. Other than that, they
can spin the story of BYU fumbleing away the game.
Cougar fans - Utah beat you with your own tax dollars - $10 million per year of
them. No BCS athletic department should ever receive a penny of taxpayer
subsidy. We can't do anything about the loss tonight, but we can work
together to end the subsidy of the Ute athletic department.