KJB1Eugene, ORI'll answer:"List some reasons
you like Obama"LDS Liberal hasn't answered yet, but I
will:*Saved the American auto industry. *Ending active combat
in Iraq and pulling back in Afghanistan.*Got the widest reaching health
care reform in decades passed.*Student loan reform.*Stopped the
Great Recession from turning into the Second Depression.*Restoring our
standing in the world after two terms of Bush.*Being a reasonable man in
unreasonable times.*Working to compromise with and reaching out to a
petulant party that has done nothing but throw tantrums since he was elected.Want more? I've got them...6:07 p.m. Sept. 16, 2012========== m.g. scottLAYTON, UTRe: WorfTruth is LDS Liberal doesn't so much like Obama as he/she hates
Republicans and conservatives.========== Right of both
comments.Coming from a former registered Republican, now
un-affiliated -- who can't understand why anyone would vote for Romney and
his Bush/Cheney/WallStreet New World Order of the Gadianton Robbers.
Oregon is one of the most liberal states in the West and have everything on a
platter presented to be the Utopia for all. If President Obama is
reelected he will be a lame duck for 4 years doing less good for the country
than he has done*Saved the American auto industry. (How can he
without a budget?)*Ending active combat in Iraq and pulling back in
Afghanistan. (Not meeting our goals is a military failure)*Got the
widest reaching health care reform in decades passed. (Without a working budget
in action to spend more than we have)*Student loan reform. (Spend
more without having the money)*Stopped the Great Recession from
turning into the Second Depression. (He was a Senator and passed the budgets
that got us into the Great Recession)*Restoring our standing in the
world after two terms of Bush. (Our standing has been flushed down after 4 years
of Obama, not Bush)*Being a reasonable man in unreasonable times.
(Far from reasonable with the House)*Working to compromise with and
reaching out to a petulant party that has done nothing but throw tantrums since
he was elected. (Who forced Obamacare without crossing over?)Elect
"Demonstrably false"? Says who? Fox News? Glenn Beck? Some
tinfoil-hatted website that says that President Obama is a secret Muslim
Marxist?I tell you, these forums are going to be a blast to read
after he's reelected...
@KJB1Rolling on the floor laughing!Not a single item is
even true.Every single item is demonstrably false.One
could easily go item by item and show it is nothing more than a demcratic party
or extreme left lie.
KJB1,You're kidding! Right?You're wrong on
all points. GM still owes tax payers forty billion, and they were bought.Restoring standing in the world? We're a big joke. Watch the news
dude.Denying the Canadian oil deal, and giving billions to other
countries is reasonable?Do you know what's in the healthcare
package? Don't be a fool!Student loan reform? He's
buying votes. How did he pay for his college?
I'll answer:"List some reasons you like Obama"LDS Liberal hasn't answered yet, but I will:*Saved the
American auto industry. *Ending active combat in Iraq and pulling back in
Afghanistan.*Got the widest reaching health care reform in decades
passed.*Student loan reform.*Stopped the Great Recession from
turning into the Second Depression.*Restoring our standing in the world
after two terms of Bush.*Being a reasonable man in unreasonable times.*Working to compromise with and reaching out to a petulant party that has done
nothing but throw tantrums since he was elected.Want more?
I've got them...
It is not just the jobs and economy that are at issue, even though they should
have been addressed 4 years ago. Lack of integrity is a great problem and has
caused some of our moral decay and lack of leadership in Congress and in the
White House. The Court system may be suffering also but as citizens we
don't have that much influence on the U.S. Court system that are being
loaded to one point of view. State courts are then required to follow many of
the Supreme and Circuit court rulings that were skewed to one position. It is
important to elect a good President of the United States that believes in
principles of what our Founding Fathers included in our direct and indirect form
of government at the State and National level. Entitlements have made it so
people can get the dole and not the kind of pineapple. We have to vote for good
people. Good people don't want to subject themselves to that kind of
ridicule for being a good person and serving others? People don't get out
and vote as they believe their vote doesn't count for good people today
Re: WorfI realize you were trying to engage LDS Liberal in a debate
about what that person likes about Obama. Truth is LDS Liberal doesn't so
much like Obama as he/she hates Republicans and conservatives.
LDS liberal--"History will blame the Tea Party for losing the 2012 election
for the GOP." Yahhh, kind-uv like history blamed the Tea Party for the 2010
takeover of the House. And people are more awake now than they were in 2010,
Worf, asking a liberal to list why he doesn't like limited government is
like asking a two-year old why he doesn't want to be potty trained.
Years ago, when security wasn't as tight as today, my step-dad was able to
approach and ask President Truman a simple question after listening to him speak
in Utah. His question was, "How much power does the President of the United
States have?" President Truman stuck his index and middle fingers into my
step-dad's chest, looked him straight into his eyes and said, "The
President of the United States has the power to sale this country!" After
witnessing the actions of many presidents, I have seen many "For Sale"
Roland if you are correct then the country and all the left wing extremists that
vote for him deserve the epic fall from economic security and prosperity, which
the Obama administrations is orchestrating and leading. Never in the history of
the country has there been a greater need for different leadership. Any person
would be more honest and better than the current corrupt group the Democrats
have chosen to lead this country. And, no matter all the rhetoric to the
contrary, every single policy of this administration has been poorly conceived,
except to curry favor with one group or another. Another word for this is
pandering and this is the only thing this administration does well. Have to
hand it to Mr. Obama, he knows what it takes to be well liked, even if it is
leading to the end of the America we and the rest of the world knew, respected
LSD Liberal,List some reasons you like Obama.
In foreign countries, gambling on the U.S. presidential election is allowed. In
all of these markets, Obama has a huge advantage over Romney, on the order of 2
or 3 to 1. These are people who are putting up real money on this contest, and
they don't bet on sentimental favorites.My prediction is that
Obama will win every state he carried in 2008 with the exception of Indiana and
S. Carolina, two Republican states that went Democratic by a tiny margin last
time. This will still give President Obama more than ample votes in the
Tight race?...hahaha!Obama = 332Romney = 209270 electoral votes wins!Read all the polls you want if it
makes you feel good and helps you sleep better at night.JowBlow
nailed it.This was Romney's election to loose - and loose he did by
catering to the 5% uber-far-right who've high-jacked the GOP rather than
sticking with capturing the 40% of the Moderates/Independants in the Middle -
ala Big Tent GOP/Reagan Democrats.History will blame the Tea-Party
for loosing the 2012 election for the GOP.
A1994 may have an important point. If you check there must be 50 different
polling companies out there all polling every week or more. Right now, I really
believe that many of them poll to get desired results as much as they poll to
find out the truth. Some are Democrat, some are Republican. Any bogus poll now
will be long forgotten. The only time these polls want to be right is about 2
weeks out from election day. Watch for the numbers then to get a realistic
reading of where things really are. If I were a Democrat, I'd worry about
the over-sampling of Democrat voters that many polls use. And the model. If
they are using the 2008 model, it may be really off. They did not see the
T-Party 2010 election coming, and it may happen again.
World events are troubling. While most of the coverage is on the problems in the
Middle East there are troubling events in Asia as well. China continues to press
Japan on the Senkaku Island issue and there have been huge protests in China.
The world is very tense right now. We need the President to lead out. Back up
Japan, back up our allies, and make sure to show a strong front to this
violence. It is my opinion but I believe if the USA doesn't show its
resolve to protect its interests, it will embolden others to attack and demean
our country. Whoever leads this country, Obama or Romney, has a hard road ahead.
Let's pray they have the courage to lead.
I have completely agree with Worf. How awful can Obama be before Americans
supporting him will finally see how destructive he is to the country? He is
hurting small business, his policies are keeping unemployment numbers and our
economy stuck. His spending is limiting our options and ruining future
generations wealth. His federal reserve printing of money is causing inflation
with food and fuel. The Obamacare taxes haven't even kicked in yet, but
when they do the country will triple dip into recession. His poor leadership is
causing class warfare, which is part of his re-election plan, as is the effort
to make more Americans dependent on government handouts, and yet entitlement
spending is bankrupting our country. Really, how short-sighted can Americans be
to support Obama for a 2nd term? Voting him out of office should be a
How much worse can a president be, to make it a clear choice race?
I don't think the race is as tight as it seems. Romney is going to win.
Let's remember that at this point anything done by either canidate is
probably about getting an extra vote or two.
Romney would be a much stronger candidate if he did not have to placate the
right wing of his party.That group WANTS him to shoot first, aim
later. They want that over-the-top reaction to anything Obama. And in giving
in to them, Romney comes off as less presidential.Gotta talk
birther. Gotta talk about shootin vermin. Gotta walk back Romneycare. Gotta
scream lower taxes.If Romney was allowed to use his instincts,
experience and intelligence to govern, he would probably be a good leader and
one that I would consider voting for.