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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 12 2012 2:03 p.m. MDT

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TallGuy1970
Syracuse, UT

Go Hobby Lobby! No matter how noble and honorable the intentions may be, this health care law is overreaching in its demands and is infringing on personal rights!

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

Good for Hobby Lobby

How do feminist fundamentalists credibly claim to be pro-choice when they work to deny anyone the right to not participate in their choice? (the HHS mandate goes much further than getting others to pay for birth-control, it requires others pay for sterilizations and abortion-inducing drugs, etc)

That is faux-choice.

I read a great headline: "If Muslims Rioted Over the HHS Mandate, Obama Would Apologize"

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The personal rights the health care law is supposedly infringing upon disappear when someone needs health care and can't afford it. I'm getting tired of this and that outfit wanting to cherry pick what they want to cover. The morning after pill is pretty innocuous; if you don't want to cover that then you should have to cover the cost of an unwanted pregnancy to 21 years old.

don17
Temecula, CA

Not mentioned here is that compliance with this rule could cost Hobby Lobby 850 full time jobs. Now multiply that by all the other companies the Obama administration is attacking! This Administration has a endless dislike for businesses and has and is going after Hobby Lobby, Boeing, all the Hospitals, Gibson Guitar ect. Where does it end? where will it end?

How bad does it have to get until We The People stand against this Failed President?

The failures are manifest daily!

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

"The personal rights the health care law is supposedly infringing upon disappear"

No: they don't

Your rights stop where mine begin: The fact that you don't understand that is exactly why I question the hard left even more than I do the hard right.

Intolerance in the name of feminism, civil rights or gay rights is NO better than hate in the name of God, motherhood or patriotism; it is merely more fashionable and therefore more dangerous

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Conner Johnson

Hobby Lobby CEO and founder David Green credits God's grace and provision with Hobby Lobby's success, and said the company cannot abandon its religious standards in order to comply with the mandate.

—Get off your high horse, and become current with the times.

AZRods
Maricopa, AZ

Hutterit, talk about cherry picking. You suggest Hobby Lobby be responsible for an unwanted pregnancy? Forget that they are providing coverage for maturnity?
Also, this "unwanted" stuff really cranks my brain.
If you don't want to get pregnant then don't have sex, or use a contraseptive which there coverage does pay for. Otherwise stop trying to make everyone responsible for your actions.

And if you can call a morning after pill "pretty innocuous" then you really just don't see the bigger picture.

I got an unwanted 10 lbs of fat over the summer until I quit eating so much and burned it off.

Bill McGee
Alpine, UT

In what way will compliance with this rule cost Hobby Lobby 850 jobs? Just because Hobby Lobby is run by someone who is opposed to the morning after pill doesn't mean he gets to tell his employees how they can live their lives. This is a frivolous, politically motivated, election year lawsuit that has no chance as the one filed by the Catholic church was already dismissed.

It is easy to argue that if someone doesn't want to get pregnant that they not have sex. Not every 14-year-old girl makes consistently good decisions, and telling her that she has to just live with a terrible mistake is inhumane. And if we start legislating morality, then what do you do when Muslims want Shari'ah Law or your local coven wants equal time to pray in school. This is a slippery slope you do not want to start down.

BTW, the morning after pill is NOT an abortion pill. It is simply the equivalent amount of estrogen found in about three birth control pills, and prevents a fertilized egg from implanting - which already happens in the majority of cases naturally anyway.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Hutterite,

sorry you have such little regard for the 1st amendment.

Belching Cow
Sandy, UT

Nice, I just found a new place to shop.

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

I agree with Hobby Lobby, the Govt. should not have the power to force people to provide things that are contrary to the business owners personal morals/ethics.

Business provided health insurance needs to be changed. Someone goes into business to provide a product or service and to make money. Along the way the business becomes saddles with the responsibility to provide health insurance to its employees. This model first started just after WW2 as an incentive to attract employees. Then health insurance was cheap. Now health insurance probably accounts for at least 10 - 15% of the cost of the employee if not more. Insurance companies no doubt like the current arrangement. To save money businesses try to set up health programs and then some employees gripe that the business is meddling where they have no right.

I say give the money that is currently paid for insurance to the employees so they can purchase their own insurance. If they want morning after pill insurance they can buy it themselves. Get business out of this employee healthcare equation and we might see a lot more people starting businesses. Might even see the cost of health insurance decrease.

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

--Get off your high horse, and become current with the times.

I think that was a popular saying in Sodom and Gomorrah. ;)

don17
Temecula, CA

To: Bill McGee:

Thank you for your question. The fines costing Hobby Lobby funds takes away jobs. The daily fine of 1.3 million dollars. Where do you think the funds will come from? If Hobby Lobby has to pay 26 million in additional funds: Where do you think the 26 million would come from? Job contraction. It is simple enough to figure. Hobby Lobby does not get funds from the government to throw away on failed energy stimulus so any funds they need to pay from something come from profits, or are pulled from benefits, existing jobs or reinvestment funds to open more stores. Hobby Hobby is opening new locations every month. Maybe not if reinvestment capital becomes government money.

As my parents said " MONEY does NOT grow on trees!"

I am also aware of other businesses being attacked by the administration through Law Suits, Excessive Regulations, Obamacare, no Updated Tax Policy!

Californian#1@94131
San Francisco, CA

Bill McGee @ 4:19 p.m.: "Just because Hobby Lobby is run by someone who is opposed to the morning after pill doesn't mean he gets to tell his employees how they can live their lives."

Huh? Where did you read that David Green is trying to tell his employees how they can live their lives?

I can refuse to buy booze or crack cocaine for someone on moral grounds, but I'm not dictating their lifestyle or personal habits.

metisophia
Ogden, UT

Hobby Lobby or any company should know that they are not providing any contraceptives to their employees. They are providing health insurance as a cost effective perk to their employees who are making their own choices based on medical need. And by cost effective, I mean they get a tax break because it is not taxed as payroll.

Employers do not have a first amendment right to restrict the medical decisions of their employees.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

Come the revolution...you will do as you are told.
I want America back.

peter
Alpine, UT

You can't reason with a liberal intent on being taken care of from cradle to grave. It's good to see corporations standing up to the ACA's unconstitutional provisions.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

So - the owner of Hobby Lobby thinks he should get to dictate to his employees how they live their lives because if they use medication of which he disapproves, it is a violation of his religious principles?

And people are okay with this?

Should the owner of a restaurant that serves alcohol be able to require all her employees to drink a glass of wine every night because it has proven health benefits?

Should the owner of a health food store be able to prohibit his employees from eating meat?

Should an employer get to determine how many children you have or how often you and your spouse are intimate? Because allowing your employer to determine your access to birth control gives him exactly that ability.

Vaughn J
Kearns, UT

OBAMA thinks that the government should provide the health care to all individuals. This is accomplished by forcing use to buy insurance, or have company provided insurance. The companies are required to provided government mandated insurance. Hey that is the same as putting a TAX on every company that has employees. If they cannot recuperate the costs in increased product costs, READ AS TAXES FOR HEALTH CARE, THEN they will have to reduce staff to reduce operating costs.

The added taxes to medical suppliers will also be passed on to the consumer, where does anyone think that it is the companies that actually pay the taxes. They simply act as a tax collector for the government, siphoning off our hard to get $$$$.

REPEAL OBAMA CARE; ELECT REPUBLICANS

owlmaster2
Kaysville, UT

Right Vaughan J.... elect more Republicans. ALEC needs more gophers.

As for me, I'm going to exercise the rights I defended for 13 years in the Military. The right to boycott Hobby Lobby. I don't spend a lot at their store in Layton but not I won't be spending anything there anymore.

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