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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 11 2012 11:09 p.m. MDT

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scenic view
Baltimore, MD

Gotta laugh at the constant drum beat of "7 of 10", which is skewed by the last three years of the Crowton era.

A more accurate measuring stick of how the two programs currently compare is the head-to-head and overall records of the current coaches.

During the Bronco/Kyle era

head-to-head
Bronco 3
Kyle 4

Top 25
Bronco 5
Kyle 3

Top 15
Bronco 3
Kyle 1

Conference championships
Bronco 2
Kyle 1

10+ win seasons
Bronco 5
Kyle 3

Overall record
Bronco 68-24
Kyle 66-26

anti BCS
Anaheim, CA

utahcountyute

Unfortunately for U, you don't even have to wait until this Saturday. Your season is already over.

And you haven't even played your first "big boy" conference opponent.

Just like last year, Utah's ONLY hope for a highlight this year, is beating BYU.

A loss to the Cougars, and the Utes won't even qualify for a bowl game.

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

scenic

I'm actually impressed that you even mentioned the head to head. Very up-standing. How about..

National coach of the year awards

Kyle 1
Bronco 0

Points scored head to head

Kyle 224
Bronco 160

Anti

The byU game is just a tune up for our season in the PAC 12.Utah was in the hunt for a PAC 12 championship up to the last game last year. Do I think that they have a good chance to get into that position this year? No. However, it is still a possibility. The games still have to be played.

on the other side, byU will have nothing to play for if they lose once this year. That is fact.

Have a nice day.

DowntoBusiness
Salt Lake City, UT

BYU has much bigger prospects on the schedule this year and every upcoming season than the Utes.

Try Boise State, Notre Dame, Georgia Tech, Oregon State, Washington State. That is big time football and with BYU's ESPN partnership, National Television exposure, and top 25 rankings, BYU is better positioned to play big time football now than ever in its football history. As the Utes take their rightful place as the new found door mat of the Pac-12, who even lowly Colorado beats, they will need BYU more than ever to make them at least relevant for an in state championship. Chris and Kyle would do well to keep that in mind.

Most Ute fans still care more about beating BYU that anything that goes on in the Pac-12, and that will continue, because it is much easier to win one game against a hated top 25 program than to amount to anything when playing a multitude of top 25 programs in the Pac-10 as one recent ESPN analyst referred to it.

Go Cougs!

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

utahcountyute

"Utah was in the hunt for a PAC 12 championship up to the last game last year."

Sorry to burst your hyperbolic bubble, but Utah was NEVER in the hunt for a PAC 12 championship last year. The Utes only a chance at the PAC south because USC was ineligible, and even IF the Utes hadn't been humiliated by pathetic Colorado, the Utes would have been destroyed by Oregon.

Utah already has nothing to play for.

The Utes don't stand a chance against ASU, USC or UCLA, so the best the Utes can hope for is an upset of BYU and a slight chance of playing in a bowl.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Nelson is hardly the typical BYU senior QB.

As a senior he has started only 9 games. He is 8-1 in those starts, but he has only faced 2 BCS opponents.

Nelson has not faced any defense as strong as Utah's... even with two second string DBs.

Hays as a Jr. has started nine games. He is 6-3 against BCS opponents.

Hays has certainly faced BCS defenses as strong as BYU's.

If Hays is not better than Nelson, he is at least Nelson's equal.

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

Howard,
That was funny. At least Nelson has more experience than Doman had. Was Colorado's defense really that tough. Please don't answer that; I would hate to see you make a fool out of yourself.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Cougars1

Colorado was tough but certainly nothing compared to the brutality of the Idaho and NM State defenses. :)

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Howard

The Utes didn't beat a single PAC 12 opponent with a winning record.

The biggest difference between Colorado, Idaho, and New Mexico State...

BYU didn't LOSE to Idaho and New Mexico State.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Snack PAC

And Utah didn't LOSE to BYU... so what's your point?

Prep Fanatic
Los Angeles, CA

Utah's offense better be able to score points. This is not the same team that Utah faced a year ago in Provo. Gone is the devided team that was trying to find it's identity and a quarterback to play for. Heaps is gone, and it's now Riley's team. Riley Nelson is a senior and a true leader, and a very fiery competitor. Yes, I would go so far as to say that Riley is a better quarterback than Chucky Keaton, and this BYU team has way more talented offensive players than Utah State. with that being said BYU will score on Utah, and the only thing that is going to keep the Utes in the game, is to score more points than BYU. I really don't see this happening with John Hayes at the helm, and a Utah offensive line that cannot block. Utah State's defensive front controlled Utah's offensive line a week ago, hense an injured Jordan Wynn. The only reason Hayes didn't get hurt, was his scrambling ablities. BYU has better linebackers and safeties than Utah State. Prediction: BYU 35 Utah 17

Cougars1
Bluffdale, UT

Howard,
You just proved what every Cougar fan has been saying all along. Utah fans use the byu game as the measurement of success. I didn't compare Colorado's defense to Idaho's or NMS; you did. Maybe you should be making the comparison to PAC teams, but you won't because your only measure of success for last year is that Utah beat BYU. That's why Utah will never go to the Rose Bowl. As long as you beat BYU, your happy.

byufan1993
Provo, , UT

Cougars1

I salute you. :)

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

Howard S.

@Snack PAC: "And Utah didn't LOSE to BYU... so what's your point?"

The point, obviously, is that Utah DID lose at home to Colorado - the 10-loss, 107th ranked team that hadn't won a road game in four years.

Beating a bad team is ALWAYS MUCH BETTER than losing to a bad team.

Utah fans like to beat their chests about beating good teams, but they also like to pretend that Utah's losses to bad teams never happened.

Unfortunately for U, the rest of the country doesn't ignore Utah's bad losses like the Utes wish they would.

Kyle, in only 7 years, has already lost to as many 10-loss teams, as BYU has, IN THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY.

MiP
Iowa City, IA

"Beating a bad team is ALWAYS MUCH BETTER than losing to a bad team."
-Swoop

And dude, since BYU fans like you call Utah such a bad team, then Utah beating BYU on a regular basis must really hurt.

Get over it.

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