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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 11 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

It takes a lot of chutzpa for a conservative columnist, from the conservative Washington Post, to criticize MSNBC, for being liberal! Anyone who watches MSNBC for over 3 minutes can tell that they have a liberal slant on the news, just like anyone who watches Fox can tell that they are a mouthpiece for the Republican Party. It looks to me like Ms. Parker is upset because the liberals have found a popular counter balance to the hordes of conservative talking heads. Watch a Rachel Maddow Show, and then watch Rush, and tell me who makes more sense.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

I would have to agree with Ms Parkers assessment of MSNBC. I was also glad that she noted "Morning Joe" as an exception. This is one show I DVR daily.

MSNBC is certainly a left leaning network. And some are "hard to stomach" left.
One must be partisan delusional to not recognize that.

What I dont understand is the people who watch Fox News daily, and then complain about MSNBC's agenda.

Anyone who thinks Fox is fair and balanced is equally delusional. And that's OK. Just recognize it for what it is..

Esquire
Springville, UT

No rant about FOX? Funny how conservatives think everything should be reported in favor of them.

silas brill
Heber, UT

The assessment that MSNBC is not objective is fair. The assessment that Fox News is not objective is fair. Both are largely uncritical of their side and critical of the other. If one were to watch them both, side by side, however, I'm still not sure the viewing public would be served.

I once thought the age of real-time information would bring real-time understanding. It has not. It has only made the world a more confusing place. People seek out information sources that match their preconceptions, if not misconceptions.

To see how people can be manipulated by these news sources is frightening.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

foxnews isn't even a news network, but an entertainment one.

Yet, many from the right take everything they hear on fox as truth.

Foxnews makes MSNBC look like the most authentic and truthful media out there.

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

poor little liberal victims
its tough to swallow your own medicine

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

For this newspaper to publish an opinion piece decrying political bias in news organizations is just... well, let's just say it's the best belly-laugh I've had in a long time.

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

I'm glad PMSNBC is on cable. I don't take nor want cable.

The problem is even the free networks are "all in" for Obama. ABC and NBC BOTH make sure they do a large amount of cheerleading for the Democratic party. CBS isn't so bad. PBS, I think have begun to be a little less left-leaning. Maybe because of the threat of de-funding?

louie
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I am not so sure that MSNBC calls themselves "fair and balanced" like Fox News. So who is really not objective when they claim to be.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT
I'm glad PMSNBC is on cable.

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I knew it, I knew!

I just knew there would be at least one Rush Limbaugh Ditto-head to parrot his male-chavenistic name for it.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

Pot (kathleen parker) meet kettle (MSNBC).

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

The story SHOULD say: "MSNBC and FoxNews lead the way for unobjective journalists." Both of them shill for a particular part of the political spectrum (just like the DesNews in the print medium). That's why I strongly advocate for people reading all sources across the political spectrum, and then realize that there is truth and falsity in ALL of them.

Wonder
Provo, UT

@1conservative -- PMSNBC? I don't get it. What's the joke? Does it mean macho men don't watch the channel or are you trying to say that it's a woman's channel so it's silly and not worth listening to or what?

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

The business model worked for Fox, so MSNBC decided that was the way to go.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@1conservative
"I'm glad PMSNBC"

What are you, a frat boy?

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "It takes a lot of chutzpa for a conservative columnist, from the conservative Washington Post . . . ."

Conservative columnist? Conservative Washington Post? Talk about chutzpah!

The flawed basis of liberals' incessant whine is that modern media outlets no longer embrace or advance their warped, radical, leftist, Cronkite-esque view of the universe, which they disingenuously define as "truth." That view rests on the socialist propagandist's disingenuous dogma that truth has a left or right slant, and that it's the leftist's job to ridicule, prohibit, co-opt, or shout down anything other than that leftist slant.

Truth actually doesn't have a left/right slant.

FoxNews, more so than others, at least, typically attempts to find ground truth and report it. If they say a poll shows "X," that a person said "Y," or that "Z" occurred or didn't occur -- most likely, it's true. When they report opinion, it's identified as such.

The same cannot be said of corporate MSNBC, though certain reporters may be exceptions that prove the rule.

Tolstoy
salt lake, UT

@procuradorfiscal
fox news tries to find ground truth? Kind of hard to even have a rational discussion when the bases of your argument is so far from reality.

jsf
Centerville, UT

whether you believe one or the other group is fair, pew research polls say that only 29 percent believe news organizations are accurate in reporting the news. Only 18 percent believe the media is unbiased. This is a poll of both liberals and conservatives. What it means is most people don't believe they can get a straight answer from the press.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Kind of hard to even have a rational discussion . . . ."

I agree -- leftist dogma is so far from rational, it's hard to assimilate, let alone understand.

The "bases" of my argument, same as that of most real people, is that truth leans neither right nor left -- it just is. It's the job of "news" outlets to report the truth with a minimum of spin, identify their opinions as such, and leave real people to draw appropriate conclusions from the facts.

As even Walter Cronkite eventually got old and crotchety enough to admit, "mainstream" media have not done that job for many, many years. They have a long, long history of telling us only the part of the story that supports their agenda, suppressing or spinning anything that doesn't, and spouting leftist ideology as fact.

FoxNews, for all its faults, is at least not tainted by that shameful past, and comes closer than most to doing journalism's job.

MSNBC, on the other hand, is stuck in, even proud of, the discredited Cronkite tradition.

ronnie
sandy, utah

This article says more about the the Editorial Board's fantasy in assessing or comparing objective journalism than anything else.

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