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Mitt Romney says he likes parts of 'Obamacare'


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  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 11:36 p.m.


  • Brian H. Provo, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 5:52 p.m.

    I can't wait to see what the libertarians will come up with to defend the candidate they hoped they would never have to defend. Were all the other Republican contenders really worse than this loose cannon?

  • Brian H. Provo, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 5:50 p.m.

    So, Romney changes his message depending on which news outlet he's speaking to? That sounds like intellectual dishonesty. I would say the same thing is true of Obama, but Fox News never even invites him to speak, so we may never know! The media is biased, so are the candidates, and they all will say whatever they need to get the power. We need a moderate candidate who can speak his/her mind no matter who the audience is.

  • yarrlydarb Ogden, UT
    Sept. 11, 2012 6:17 a.m.

    Yes ... now that he has won the GOP nomination, he can let his true self (well, maybe part of it) come out for the world to see.

    Flip-flop Mitt for President?

    I don't think so.

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    Sept. 10, 2012 3:10 p.m.

    I hope all of you screaming heartless tea partiers get bit by your pet rattle snakes. It won't kill you but you can get a good look at your $100,000 hospital bill. And don't go to the hospital unless you have all of the cash.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    Does anyone doubt that, if you could offer Romney the presidency in return for keeping Obamacare, Roe v. Wade, and increasing taxes on the those making over $1 Million+
    Romney would take the deal in a second?

    So the policy issues are just a bunch of baloney he needs to say to win over subgroups of chumps, ignorant, rubber-stamp Republican voters. The stuff about loving his parents and kids was real. The problem was that the realness of his love for his immediate family highlighted his cynicism and phoniness on his Country, his Wealth, and admiration of his Father.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:39 p.m.

    It doesn't matter so much if its called Obamacare or Romney care.
    The important thing is that decent health care be available to
    all people.

  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:31 p.m.

    The DN should have included where this article came from to be balanced and fair. If you don't know where the article came from a DN writer, the various news outlets or the editor, it is potentially biased toward a side you don't know.


  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:24 a.m.

    I think Romney needs to see a Doctor for his pre-existing condition....Etchasketchalitis or flipfloporosis.

  • middle class Cedar City, 00
    Sept. 10, 2012 11:16 a.m.

    This partisan divide has to give way. We have a 50/50 nation and the Legislative Branch reflects that split. Gridlock is preventing the changes qwe need to recover from the Great Recession.

    Two things are needed in America: TIME (it will take additional years) and COMPROMISE (
    Democrats and Republicans nationwide must elect and expect their representatives (President, Senator, Congressperson) to work hard to compromise.

    Neither party has a moral edge. They are both equally commendable and with fault, as are all of us. let's cheer for unification, compromise and America.

  • Wildcat O-town, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:54 a.m.

    They call him Flipper, Flipper--Faster than lightning. No one you see changes political stances like he.

    Oh Mittens, to quote Diamond Joe Quimby on The Simpsons, "Very well, if that is the way winds are blowing, let it not be said that I don't also blow."

    "A well-lubricated Weather Vane" --John Huntsman Jr. So True!

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:33 a.m.

    I think it is funny that everyone is saying that Romney said that "Obamacare" was "ALL bad." I'm pretty sure if you thought he said that he was talking about disagreeing with the plan as a whole. However, since "Obamacare" was formed after "Romneycare" I think it would be pretty foolish of anyone to think that Romney would ever disagree with the entire reform if he implemented parts of it himself in Massachusetts. You people are just looking for a fight and you are portraying yourselves as very ignorant to the very recent past. How can your statements be validated?

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:23 a.m.

    The campaign has already pulled this back saying that Romney is against any ban on discriminating based on pre-existing conditions. They claim that the free market would take care of it (nonsense, free markets sure as heck weren't taking care of it before Obamacare, why would they do it after?).

  • I-am-I South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 10:18 a.m.

    I think insurance is flawed in it's basic philosophy. I must admit that it has benefited me at times. I think we should consider taking out loans on medical bills. The reality of insurance is that we are paying a loan, for which we intend on receiving the benefit in the future, but we do not know the specific value of that benefit and for which we may never receive the benefit from. This means that people have an incentive to go to the doctor for the most absurd things (using money in the pool)to increase their personal value of their "debt"... I honestly don't think that reforming a flawed idea is going to fix the problem. I think the problem is better addressed with a new philosophy and by cutting medical costs...starting with making the barrier to entry to be a doctor significantly easier making it cheaper to become a doctor and driving down their salaries. The public won't like that because they think it means health care will suffer. What it really means is more health care for more people and doctors with less debt and lower salaries.

  • Craig Clark Boulder, CO
    Sept. 10, 2012 9:23 a.m.

    Better be careful about tipping your hand too much, Mitt. The GOP right wing is suffering from insomnia wondering what kind of a grab bag they've decided to go with.

    I'm so glad Obama pulled out all the stops to punch this legislation through and that the Supreme Court didn't strike it down. The Affordable Care Act isn't what this old lefty wanted to see passed but it was the best the President could deliver on given the stiff opposition he had to surmount. Now we have a structure in place.

  • MapleDon Springville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 9:12 a.m.

    As expected, the leftist media working to control public opinion by stirring up controversy. The fact is the media does control the thinking and beliefs of a good chunk of the population. Their target includes those people who don't have strong opinions or convictions and are easily swayed. If the media decided tomorrow to back Romney, they would too.

    But the media doesn't want any Republican in office. Period. And this newspaper, like other dwindling media outlets across this nation, continues to feed to the non-thinking public what they are to think--and that is that Romney is flip-flopping again.

    On the contrary. If Romney had said that there was nothing good in the entire Obamacare program, I would have considered that a lie. And that comment alone would, to me, have been controversial.

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 9:03 a.m.

    IMO, repeal ACA (aka obamacare); Repeal the whole thing. The Constitution does not grant the federal government the power to make such laws. Powers not explicitly granted the federal government are given to the state governments. Unfortunately that has not seemed to have been a problem for the past few administrations.

    If a nation-wide policy is to be introduced don't try to pass a massive do-everything plan all at once. Introduce small changes and test its impact. One thing that might be done first is to open interstate competition of insurance companies. Surely Mitt, Mr. Businessman, knows the advantage of competition to lower prices. Apparently this is something that Barrack did not pickup on in Econ 101. But that is not profitable for the insurance companies, and they took part in the design of ACA.

  • LDS Liberal Farmington, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:44 a.m.

    So ---

    What we hear NOW is that "some" parts of Obamacare are "good"....

    When just weeks ago we kept hearing the line that it was ALL bad, and ALL needed to be replaced.

    Guess what?

    Obamacare didn't change,
    Romney did.


  • JWB Kaysville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:32 a.m.

    In any state's legislative process, the legislature makes the bills and passes them for the Governor to sign. In Massachusetts, with a Democrat party led legislature, the President is using Governor Romney's name as a political gain when talking about the health care bill that was passed. Obamacare, however, was pushed and pulled through Congress without any hint at all of across the aisle and even within his own party, a friendly gesture. The President used his forces, pressures and undermining of Democrat Representatives and Senators from getting elected due to their votes for something the people didn't want.

    There are some good things in that healthcare bill as with what the President calls Romneycare for his own political gain. However, there are plenty of hidden things or pieces that have moral implications, that any reasonable person would question. Even Speaker Pelosi said that they should pass the bill so they could read it. What she really meant is that there were changes going on to the end so if you pass it, then you could get exactly what they had written. Prior to passing the bill it was changing, minute by minute and not readable.


  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:27 a.m.

    Isn't it interesting how Mr. Romney changes his stripes yet again when he sees his standing in the race dropping. Does this man actually stand for anything?

    And to those who complain that the individual mandate is an affront to their liberty, I say balderdash! I guarantee that those individuals who do not have insurance and lack the funds for their emergency medical care will still expect to be cared for when they are in a car crash. When they are diagnosed with cancer at age 28, they will expect to receive medical care and they will decry the system if they don't get it. And in a country as rich and as compassionate as ours, they should receive care. They seek to be irresponsible freeloaders, gaming the system to their advantage, convinced in their childish thoughts that they are omnipotent, that nothing bad will ever happen to them. They need to grow up.

  • xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:24 a.m.

    I'm going to campaign on repealing Obamacare, replace it with my own and have it be the same thing, and say, Look what I did. He won't explain what loopholes he's closing either. This guy has no plan, and keeps playing coy hoping folks will fall for it. Maybe the debates will finally make him talk!

  • Mike in Cedar City Cedar City, Utah
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:09 a.m.

    Mitt the flip and here comes his flop.

  • RanchHand Huntsville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 8:04 a.m.

    Flip-flop. Flip-flop.

  • Doug10 Roosevelt, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 7:49 a.m.

    Whoa Mitt,

    This man might be after my vote after all.

    Cost to repeal Obamacare is $80 billion, if he can change it for less he might be starting to think.

    I find myself somewhat more interested in what else he has to say.

    By the way there was months of debate prior to the passing of the current health care bill, just some refused to engage in the debate.

    I look at the numbers and vote with the same and according to the tax office in the next term Pres Obama will increase the deficit by 800 billion and Mr. Romney will increase the decifit by 1.2 trillion.

    The $80 Billion to do away with the current healthcare system is included in the 1.2 trillion deficit Mr. Romney will incur so if he continues to chop away at his deficit spending Mr. Romney may very well earn my vote in the next 2 months.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:51 a.m.

    Im with you Schwa.

    It is very easy to bash someone elses plan. Why? Plans have details. Otherwise, it is not a plan, it is an idea.

    It is easy to say "I will cut spending, fix healthcare and create jobs, lower taxes and reduce the deficit while increasing military spending"

    But when those ideas turn into PLANS, then we can see HOW these things will be accomplished.

    Because, if Romney can do all of those things simultaneously, and has valid plans to do them, he would get my vote.

    And he could probably also walk on water.

  • Midwest Mom Soldiers Grove, WI
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:50 a.m.

    Not to worry. The Romney campaign later clarified, for the T-party, that they only meant those with pre-existing conditions that had no lapses in coverage. Pendulum politics at its best.

  • cjb Bountiful, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:41 a.m.

    It wasn't conservative republicans who voted for Mitt in the primaries,
    It was middle of the road republicans. So when Mitt said what he
    Did, he IS appealing to his base.

    Given his past history, he is also being true to himself and his ideals.

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 6:17 a.m.

    The header to this article is highly misleading and the content of the article tells us nothing more than what Mitt Romney has said for months on the campaign trail. You would almost think that the Deseret News is in the Obama camp and is pushing for support for Obama. Misleading articles are more the norm now than the exception. We can get obfuscation from the New York Times. We would expect accuracy in reporting from the Deseret News. Sadly, the DN is showing a brand of reporting that is typical of the yellow journalism that we see in the liberal press.

  • My2Cents Taylorsville, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 4:53 a.m.

    This is why we can't allow any form of Romney health care plans. The Mass and Utah plan that Romney designed are both in trouble and criminally under the control or state health care agency's that do not value the privacy of ones Dr/patient rights and share all private information with every other government and police department in the state.

    Previously Utah is subversive and without consent but new Obama care ACA laws is forcing Utah doctors and health care to have patients sign consent forms to allow government and state agency's access to all personal and private medical information. In other words revoking the Dr/patient privileged information laws by consent.

    Romney is a closet liar about health care and our rights and he plans to institute the same program, laws, and costs to individuals in his plan. National and socialized health care insurance must be revoked in every form and Reamonn a free enterprise and independent service. Romney has no plans to repeal Obama care, its already a law that can be manipulated by his ideas and tax laws.

    I hope Ron Paul is still in the wings for my vote.

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 10, 2012 12:21 a.m.

    I am still waiting for someone to explain I me how he intends to cover those with pre-existing conditions without some sort of requirement for everyone to have insurance or driving the cost of insurance through the roof! I still don't think it's possible, and no commenters here have even begun to address it.

  • pragmatistferlife salt lake city, utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 10:48 p.m.

    Actually, it's not as simple as you don't have insurance you pay a penaly. There is a multitued of exceptions erasing the penalty. Personally I think Romney would have been far better off with I'm going to repeal Obamacare. He's going to have a heck of a time parsing the differences now, and while tpartiers have no one else to vote, they could very easily become so disapointed with him they stay home.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 10:04 p.m.


    Well, you are right and you are wrong.

    Where you're wrong. Obamacare (for lack of a better term) is CONSTITUTIONAL unless the Republicans don't believe in the sanctity of the Supreme Court especially when five of the Supreme Court justices were appointed by Republican Presidents including the Chief Justice John Roberts who gave the deciding vote. I was taught in government class that the Supreme Court makes decisions on matters of what is constitutional so I'll have to go with that.

    But you are right, it is a TAX. That apart of the Affordable Healthcare Act I don't particularly like either.

  • Shimlau SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:55 p.m.

    Well, you know, it was passed and now we know what's in it! I'm sure that there are parts that are indeed good ideas, but the way it was passed, wasn't. Now that we have looked it over, maybe it is time to get rid of it, or at least most of it.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:21 p.m.

    Hate to burst your bubble but the Romney team has already taken that back with an aide of his telling the National Review that Romney does not support the ACA's ban on discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions.

  • SS MiddleofNowhere, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 9:19 p.m.

    @ Wonder,
    So, obviously you won't go to jail if you don't have insurance, but you ARE FORCED to pay a "fine" (or lets face it, another tax) if you don't have insurance. How is that constitutional? It is so unAmerican it's disgusting. No freedom to choose what one wants. Slowly but surely a loss of freedoms.

  • Wonder Provo, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 8:51 p.m.

    @dumprake -- Under Obamacare you are not forced to buy insurance or go to jail. Stop believing all the kooky emails you get. My personal philosophy: if something you read in an email is absolutely outrageous, it most likely isn't true. Under Obamacare you pay a penalty if you don't have insurance, but rest assured, you won't go to jail. You also won't be killed by a death panel or any of the other insane things you've probably been told by people whose goal is to get you all worked up.

  • no fit in SG St.George, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 8:39 p.m.

    Here he goes again...
    Mitt Romney said only Mitt Romney's healthcare program IN Massachusetts was acceptable.
    Mitt Romney said everything was wrong with Obamacare.
    Mitt Romney said Obamacare was a disaster.
    He said....
    Shall we take a couple of hours, and count all that Mitt Romney continues to lie about, and change his mind on?

  • JustGordon Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 8:13 p.m.

    Actually Mitt recanted this position when being interviewed when on a conservative website. Mitt will say anything to get elected...his has changed his position on more issues since becoming a political animal then a chameleon changes colors. He does this while he is disingenuous about the President's positions.

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:04 p.m.

    There's a world of difference. For starters, if you don't like Mass you can move to another state, but a national policy gives you no option--which is the Democrats approach to everything. Secondly, Romeny's plan is not a mandate, but it does change some things that need changing, plus several things that Obamacare refused to include, like liability limits for doctors, and the elimination of all the bureaucratic boards and control of healthcare. Nobody is arguing that our healthcare could use a few improvements, but locking everybody in a closet and forcing them to pay or go to jail is so unAmerican it is jaw dropping. But Obama and the Democrats had no reservations about doing such a thing.

  • Howard Beal Provo, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 7:04 p.m.

    I don't know why all the grief--parts of the health care plan are probably good ideas and parts aren't. I can't say why saying that is a bad thing. Until either party can actually admit the other party might have a good idea here or there, our country is doomed to go down the tubes...

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 6:39 p.m.

    What is so offensive about Obamacare is 1) the way it was passed, 2) that there was no serious debate or discussion, 3) that Obama did not even pretend to include Republicans or anybody else in the discussion, and 4) the anti-America, individual mandate that says you will buy this or we will make you a criminal, we will fine you and make life miserable for you. No sane person with any sense of individual liberty would ever force something like this on Americans--and it was forced upon us. Something this big, this significant, this costly, and this dictatorial, should ever be passed without at least a year of serious discussion and debate. Pelosi's statement, "we must pass this so can find out what's in it, is so absurd and so offensive, she should have been impeached for it.

  • Mark B Eureka, CA
    Sept. 9, 2012 6:38 p.m.

    Two months left to election day. Better make my move to the center to get those Independents - and hope the TPers don't notice.

  • WMRfan Sugar City, ID
    Sept. 9, 2012 6:25 p.m.

    Oh Yes. The Romney that I hoped was there is beginning to come to the forefront. I can now enthusiastically support him. FDR had his day and now WMR can learn from his mistakes and be an improvement. The distinctions and contrasts with the current president cannot be taken lightly. There is a difference and if the fanatical right wants to pout and throw tantrums (as they did when Clinton was handed the presidency and the beginning of a robust economy) then we must identify them as our real enemies.

  • Baron Scarpia Logan, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 6:08 p.m.

    another etch-a-sketch moment...

    but we saw this coming. afterall, obamacare was modeled after romneycare.

  • FT salt lake city, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 5:06 p.m.

    Govenor Romney left his one term in office with a 35% approval rating. The Republicans nominated a lemon and now they are trying to convince us it's lemonade.

  • JoeBlow Far East USA, SC
    Sept. 9, 2012 4:20 p.m.

    ''One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage."

    "And even in Massachusetts when I was governor, our plan there deals with pre-existing conditions and with young people."

    Yes Mr Romney, These things were made possible BECAUSE you instituted an Insurance Mandate.

    Without the mandate, people will not purchase coverage UNTIL they get sick. Healthy people and young people will not pay into the insurance pool.

    It is really a fairly simple concept.

  • freedomingood provo, Utah
    Sept. 9, 2012 3:32 p.m.

    It's simple, he will just get rid of all the ficticious lies surrounding the ACA as soon as he renames it as his own.

    He can have exactly the same plan under the guise that democrat bad, republican good.

    He's allready done it. Romney care in Mass IS the same thing. And the individual mandate WAS the reoublicans idea in the first place.

    They just won't lie about death panels and government takeovers when it's thier plan that does exactly the same thing.

  • Schwa South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 9, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    "One is to make sure that those with pre-existing conditions can get coverage."

    Can someone please explain to me how Mitt Romney plans to eliminate exclusion for those with pre-existing conditions without an individual mandate, without a government program to do it, and without shooting health care costs through the roof? Because I do not believe it is possible.