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Published: Wednesday, Sept. 5 2012 6:13 p.m. MDT

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ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

good try bill. is that the best you and the rest of the libs can do? what a line up. demo bench is really deep, bil.....

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

No Bill - we just want some jobs. 4 years is a long long wait.

RichardB
Murray, UT

"shared prosperity and shared responsibility — a we're-all-in-this-together society"

That does not describe Obama. He is a celebrity President that has never managed a business or government body. He has never balaced the budget, because the Democrats have not had a budget in four years. (responsibility-Democratic senate/President.

As far as job creation, CNN's fact checker show us losing 400,000 jobs since January 2009. (including government jobs)

I wonder what Clinton told him in private about his tearing down the Clinton welfare reform.

deep in thought
Salt Lake, UT

Oh please. Democrats want anyone who wins anything to turn it right over to the government so those who are unwilling to even try can sit home on their cans feel like winners.

Did it ever dawn on Democrats that when you take the thrill out of winning that people stop playing?

My husband and I are small business owners with two employees. If we had to pay for health insurance for our employees and our taxes were very much higher we'd just shut down shop and look for government jobs. Nobody knows the stress and insane hours put into small businesses until you have been there. Giving away more of my pie doesn't motivate me to work harder just so someone who doesn't want to work can gobble it up.

I have empathy for the poor, but I feel like the government is like the Firefighters charity. 90% goes to overhead and waste and 10% reaches those who actually need it. If government was a lean mean machine I'd feel a lot less stress about tax increases. But Obama has spent like money is going out of style. No thanks.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

"If you want a you're-on-your-own ... society, you should support the Republican ticket," Bill Clinton

I'm fine with that, I wouldn't want it any other way.

I don't expect the government to feed, clothe or provide health care for me or my family. All I ask is for them to get out of my way so I can do it for myself.

It's called responsibility.

one old man
Ogden, UT

Four comments so far. Four brainwashed posters. Four Americans who have not made much effort to learn the truth. Four Americans who have swallowed a dose of dangerous propaganda.

That's frightening. As frightening as a Romney presidency.

Black Shirts
South Jordan, UT

I'm not Rep or Dem. I vote for the best candidate for the country. The last four years have been pathetic. Obama hasn't accomplished one thing he said he would. So now we are suppose to think he can get things done now. No way, Obama is embarrassment and anyone who votes for him hasn’t noticed how bad Obama has been. The worst President I’ve been alive for. I’m 49!

1conservative
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Actually, Bill Clinton seems to be referring to the Demo. party.

Weren't they the ones who gave our tax money to GM and told the existing bondholders tough luck? Winners: big labor unions
losers: the rest of us

Wasn't he the one who gave 500m of our tax dollars to Solyndra?
winners: campaign contributors
losers: the rest of us

Wasn't he the one who subsidized my neighbors new car (cash for clunkers)with tax dollars?
again a winner: UAW (big labor)
losers: the rest of us who were forced to subsidize our neighbors new car

I could go on and on and on........

"Winner take all" I guess refers to Obama's attitude regarding "winning" his first and ONLY term in office!

liberate
Sandy, UT

Best president we've had a in a long time (I'm talking about Bill). Too bad Obama doesn't match up in any way shape or form.

SS
MiddleofNowhere, Utah

"If you want a country of shared prosperity and shared responsibility — a we're-all-in-this-together society — you should vote for Barack Obama and Joe Biden."

Basically what Bill is saying here is that if you want to have a socialist society, vote for Obama and Biden.

I can't believe that Obama sunk as low as to ask Clinton to cover for him after he threw him and his administration under the bus just 4 short years ago when he was trying to win the democratic ticket over Hilary Clinton. If you simply view video of debates from 4 years ago and the different tune that Obama is singing this year it makes him look like nothing more than a joke.

A1994
Centerville, UT

Is this the same Bill Clinton who used the word "sterling" when referring to Romney's business record? He knows most Americans want a 'winner-take-all' society. That's what we've always been. It has worked fantastically well for over 200 years! Of course he knows that. Bill Clinton has a much interest in seeing Barack Obama re-elected as the GOP does. This is the same Bill Clinton who said of Obama that he is an "amateur" and "just a few years ago this guy would have been bringing us our bags." Bill Clinton said that.

What is pathetic with the Democratic party (today anyway) is that while the nation is crushed under high unemployment, they are splitting hairs and wringing hands about whether the capital of Israel is Jerusalem or not and whether to acknowledge God or not. Fiction is dead. You can't make this stuff up.

1aggie
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Wow.... what an amazing speech Clinton just gave. It's just not fair... the Dems have Clinton, the Repubs have Clint. The Dems have Fleetwood Mac... the Repubs have... uh... uh... Clint.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

The first ten or so critical comments here only confirm the disconnect that exists between today's conservative attitudes and reality.

Bill Clinton absolutely destroyed, topic by topic, Romney's dystopian vision for America and the GOP's retrograde platform. He devastated the Republican's bumper sticker talking points and the alternative universe they occupy.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Clinton is the best ever at talking to people and common sense. Did Ex-President Bush have this type of speech last week? Everyone should listen to the entire speech prior to voting.

Bifftacular
Spanish Fork, Ut

Looks who's back with his same tired response of any criticism of Obama as "right wing propaganda" and "brainwashed". You really need something new One Old Man - your comments are getting old and lame. Rather than name calling, why don't you tell us all the great things Obama has done or plans to do? No, really... please enumerate in as much detail as much as you can what you think Obama has done well. Please be specific. Rather than name call which is what liberals do best, extol all the virtues of "your guy" and convince us of why we should re-elect Obama. We're all ears...

1aggie
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

re:Deepinthought

The ACA/Obamacare does not require small employers to provide health insurance to employees. The Employer Responsibility section of the ACA applies to businesses with more than 50 employees.

Actually, the Deseret News had an article in June 2012:
"Utah Small Business Owners Support High Court Health Care Ruling" (which upheld Obamacare).

"The decision allows businesses — those with no more than 25 employees — to provide workers health insurance coverage and receive federal tax credits."

The majority of small business owners who have done their homework to understand ACA/Obamacare support it.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Somehow, for Republicans, this translates into; "winner take all." And, we are well on our way to that society where corporate conglomerates can write legislation, spend unlimited amounts in campaigns, control the media, nearly tank the economy and receive bailouts with American citizens footing the bill.

By far, the best place to watch the convention coverage is PBS, no hyperbolic yammering personalities.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

Bifftacular: "please enumerate in as much detail as much as you can what you think Obama has done well. "

OK, here's a partial list:

Osama Bin Laden is dead, along with many other Al-Qaeda leaders

Ended the War in Iraq

Begun the drawdown of forces from Afghanistan

Consumer Financial Protection Board

Boosted automobile fuel efficiency standards

Kicked banks out of Federal Student Loan Program and expanded Pell Grants

Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act

Expanded VA services for veterans

Tightened sanction on Iran

GM is now a thriving auto company. Since bottoming out in 2009, the auto industry has added more than 100,000 jobs. In 2011, the Big Three automakers all gained market share for the first time in two decades.

Signed the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act

Signed FDA Food Safety Modernization Act

Affordable Care Act

Expanded wilderness and watershed protection through the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act

Gave the FDA authority to regulate tobacco through the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act

I'm out of words, but the list is much longer.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Blue: Don't confuse the above posters (who didn't listen to the speech anyway and) are the same who follow Mitt's plan

“We’re not going to let our campaign be dictated by fact-checkers.”

"Never let the facts get in the way of a good story"

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@Truthseeker

"Somehow, for Republicans, this translates into; "winner take all.""

Nice how you distort what Republicans believe, then condemn them for your distortion:

Well if turn about is fair ply: Democrats obviously want "loser take all"

Personally: I will go with the non-Democratic alternative - it is less hate based.

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