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Published: Tuesday, Sept. 4 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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malcolmkyle
NEW YORK, NY

Have you have finally wised up to the fact that the best avenue towards realistically dealing with drug use and addiction is through proper regulation? Then fortunately for you there is one last peaceful avenue for change.

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* You are not lawfully required to disclose your voting intention before taking your seat on a jury.
* You are also not required to give a reason to the other jurors on your position when voting. Simply state that you find the accused not guilty!
* Jurors must understand that it is their opinion, their vote. If the Judge and the other jurors disapprove, too bad. There is no punishment for having a dissenting opinion.

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procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: "Marijuana may not be as immediately harmful as many other drugs, including alcohol . . . ."

And if you don't believe it, just ask one of the blown-out potheads who will undoubtedly leap to marijuana's defense in these pages.

Marijuana is every bit as harmful as alcohol. The level of driving carnage it wreaks is inhibited only by its illegal status.

In states that have, either de jure or de facto, legalized marijuana, the incidence of drugged driving increases, while drunk driving remains the same or also increases.

Legalization of marijuana merely adds more digits to the hospitality industry's horrific body count.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

Banning something vs controlling it. Lets give marijuana a go, let the next generation(s) decide in 100 years if it was worth it.

Esquire
Springville, UT

While I'm torn on this issue, I think it is important to weigh the relative merits of legalization and regulation versus the costs to society of the war on drugs. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world by a long way, it's not even close. We throw essentially harmless people into prison where they are not only a burden to society, they become hardened. People use marijuana any way, and I'm dubious that we would see any more abuse and use than we already have. Our approach to marijuana is counter-productive and is slowly crushing us as a country. Millions in prison and the economic burden makes me think we should legalize. Yes, little good comes from it, but that could be said about a lot of things.

Mukkake
Salt Lake City, UT

The argument of this article is that, if kids/teens shouldn't use it, nobody should.

So we should gate all adult behaviors by their appropriateness for kids and teens. So much for "Free Agency".

New state slogan: "Utah, this is the place where nobody is ever allowed to grow up."

It isn't society's job to raise your kids with your values. If you let them out into the world, the world will show them what it has to offer. If you can't keep you kids from using pot, then you've probably failed as a parent.

Besides, our last 3 Presidents have used marijuana, as well as the founders of many of the successful companies. It can't be too damaging.

Andrew
American Fork, UT

I say we legalize and control all drugs much like cigarettes and alcohol. Then teach others how harmful it is. Arrest those that sell to minors or those that do not inform others of the danger. Lower the cost, drop the crime rates, add sanity to drug producing nations. These drugs are terribly dangerous. I think you can legalize without legitamizing as socially acceptable. In many circles today smoking is not considered socially acceptable yet it is legal(except in certain locations ie work place). We can do likewise with narcotics and reap the benefits of a safer nation.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

Prohibition isn't working again. Someone tell conservatives reality is knocking.

Why does it make conservatives feel better to make something illegal that they don't like?

I don't like alcohol and drugs but I can see making them illegal just fills the jails and takes kid's parents away and ruins lives. Going to jail definetly ruins a person's life. Growing up in foster care ruins lives. Trying the marijuana doesn't.

They figure 50% of kids are trying marijuana before graduating from high school. I imagine it skyrockets in college before they become someone's boss. Prohibition isn't working - why does it make you feel better? Why in the world does anyone care how you feel?

So what's the point of continuing to ruin the lives of people that sell marijuana? Just tax it and empty the jails and prisons.

procuradorfiscal
Tooele, UT

Re: ". . . our last 3 Presidents have used marijuana, as well as the founders of many of the successful companies. It can't be too damaging."

Ummmm, look around you. Do you really want to make that argument?

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

It is very unwise to legalize Marijuana for the obvious reasons in the article. If an adult smokes their child will likely smoke. Alcohol is actually more dangerous than Marijuana as those drinking not only kill themselves, but others. It would be better for alcohol to be prohibited, but then we would have the drinkers protesting. They claim probibition did not work but we consume a lot more alcohol now and lose a lot of lives from it.

Hellooo
Salt Lake City, UT

To suffer fate of having to live in California, probably justifies special laws to allow its citizen some means to reduce the pain and suffering.

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: Mukkake Salt Lake City, UT
"Besides, our last 3 Presidents have used marijuana ..."

Perhaps that explains why Obama is so mentally challenged when it comes to balancing our nation's checkbook. Can't think of a better argument for staying away from the stuff.

Screwdriver
Casa Grande, AZ

I'm not going to use marijuana any more than I'm going to start drinking but...

It's a cost benefit analysis.

The cost to people's lives for being tried and convicted of marijuana crimes is much higher than the dangers of using it.

The cost to society now to convict people of marijuana crimes is a very high cost vs the taxes generated by allowing it to be sold legally.

The laws for marijuana use would likely be the same as alcohol. No public intoxication, no public consumption, no use for under 21 years of age ect ect.

With the falling quality of jobs and conservative argument that most of us don't need a college education anyway, I fail to see thier argument that we need to preserve every possible point of IQ so we can throw them in jail and or make them fry cooks with an above average I.Q.

Or could it be that while conservatives don't want to educate the lower classes they do in fact want thier low paid help very smart so they can follow every command promptly? So hard to find good help.

Kent R. Treehorn
WEST JORDAN, UT

Typical for the Deseret News, this editorial is full of ignorance and guesswork. Why don't we stick to facts instead of made up fear mongering. Where is the balance?

To those attacking the point that our last 3 presidents have used cannabis, keep your political views out of this and show why this harmless plant was detrimental to those men. The point isn't that marijuana made them better men, it's that they used marijuana and still achieved one of the greatest feats our society knows.

This write-up is disgusting and an insult to journalism. When cannabis is legalized this fall in Colorado or Washington or both, and the world doesn't end in those two states, will the Deseret News continue to side with ignorance?

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The only danger in voting after having experienced some pot is probably that they won't vote republican.

JoeBlow
Far East USA, SC

"Perhaps that explains why Obama is so mentally challenged when it comes to balancing our nation's checkbook."

You mean Obama, Bush, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, and on and on and on and on.

Guess they were all lighting up

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@procuradorfiscal
"Marijuana is every bit as harmful as alcohol."

Not even close. Alcohol causes liver failure and all sorts of other serious diseases. Tobacco causes lung cancer and all sorts of respiratory problems. Both end up with huge death tolls annually. Marijuana? What exactly does that cause that's going to kill anyone in terms of disease? It is completely illogical for marijuana to be illegal while tobacco is legal. Naturally that's why the top funder of anti-marijuana campaigns is the tobacco industry. They just don't want competition.

"just ask one of the blown-out potheads who will undoubtedly leap to marijuana's defense in these pages."

Oh, and about that... I've never used marijuana, nor do I have any intention to ever do so. Heck, I've never smoked a cigarette or drank an alcoholic beverage either. I just care about accuracy and consistency. Legalize marijuana or ban tobacco, because what we have in place right now makes no sense at all.

@Rifleman
"Perhaps that explains why Obama is so mentally challenged when it comes to balancing our nation's checkbook."

Tax cuts + more defense spending + preserve entitlement spending = Republicans being high while budgeting.

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah
Re: Mukkake Salt Lake City, UT
"Besides, our last 3 Presidents have used marijuana ..."

Perhaps that explains why Obama is so mentally challenged when it comes to balancing our nation's checkbook. Can't think of a better argument for staying away from the stuff.

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I assume you ment GW Bush, who FYI - was voted for higher in Utah than in anyother state....TWICE.

BTW - George Washington grew hemp.
He'd be sitting in a U.S. prison right now if he were alive today.

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

procuradorfiscal: just a single reference to any one of your statements, because none of what you said can be backed up by any scientific data.

Do some minimum research and you might be surprised at one of Gods greatest gifts, a plant with a 5,000 year old history of man using it for fiber, paper, oil, food, medicine, and lastly as a political scapegoat, for Dupont and Hearst.
who capitalizing on deception increased their profits by eliminating the competition thru government action (much like today's corporations.) But don't take my word for it, Look it up.

Shawnm750
West Jordan, UT

@Kent R. Treehorn - This is an editorial, not an article. Editorials are the OPINION of the editor or contributor writing them. They are not news and therefore don't have to present both sides.

Furthermore, no one's implying that the "world is going to end" in Washington or Colorado, or anywhere for that matter. The point the author is trying to make is that the benefits of legalizing marijuana do not outweigh the negative aspects and consequences that come along with it.

We're constantly seeing new reports that this drug, which has been promoted by so many as being "harmless," really isn't that harmless after all. I'm all for allowing people to choose, but I also believe that at some point we as a society need to decide where to draw the line. There are numerous narcotics that are legal, and people still sell them illegally. Drug-lords aren't simply going to go legit...

All we'll see legalizing marijuana is more impaired driving. And soon, when people are sick of being busted for that, they'll argue we need to ease up on impaired drivers too because we're being "too harsh."

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

I have no doubt that alcohol can be more dangerous than marijuana. And, if I had to approve one as legal, I might (note the word might) choose marijuana over alcohol.

But neither of these is an argument to legalize it. We have one often dangerous drug legalized and we simply do not need another. Yes, many use alcohol with little harm, my folks included, but its negatives (both individual and societal) are indisputable.

Surely there are many other low level drugs which could be legalized. Should we legalize them all?

And, at what level does a drug become too dangerous to legalize? Given the increased potency of marijuana over the past few decades, would we need to monitor and "grade" the marijuana making sure it is at a legal level?

Simply put, we don't need another drug legalized. We've got our hands full to overflowing with just one.

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