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  • xxyyzz1100 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 5:31 p.m.

    @eagle

    I will say this much to your original post. You say Granger is 5A and should have beaten a doormat team in 4A Cyprus handily just because. The score doesn't tell the whole story. Mistakes happen and things don't always go as planned for the team favored in a game. It never should have come down to OT in that game but things sometimes don't go as planned because of mistakes and some bad choices. You do know that upsets and "eeked" out wins happen right? It happens all the time in football in different regions and on different levels. Just look at the U game last night against USU. I am not saying Granger is compared to the U but just that the U were favored and should have won but it went into OT but it should never came down to it. Upsets and close games happens sometimes. Grangers record last year doesn't suggest their true abilities this year. Good luck to Cyprus getting 2 wins or more and Stansbury on going 8-1. Granger? Well you know...

  • SHS85 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 8, 2012 9:10 a.m.

    SHS85 to

    ProudBigBrother
    NORTH SALT LAKE, UT

    I watched the Alta and Bingham game and it was a close game. East Scrimmaged Jordan and Bingham and Jordan has the better of the two on the Offensive Line. After the Alta 19-7 win over Riverton, I would have to say Good LUCK with Jordan. I feel Jordan has the best Offensive Line we played yet this year.

    GOOD LUCK TO ALL THE TEAMS

  • chenderson1207 LAYTON, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 5:54 p.m.

    @binghamalum

    No. Region 1 has great contenders. Syracuse beat Alta last year and Northridge beat them the year before. Both can take on those three powerhouse teams.

  • Northridgefan5 OGDEN, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 5:26 p.m.

    Ok Binghamalum let's get facts straight. I am also a Bingham alum. I like to give props where props are due. This is early on in the season to be getting all worked up over rankings. In the Logan game the Knights knocked Falk out of the game with a hard hit, then proceeded to knock the next quarterback out of the game. They had the whole first half with Falk and while he is a tough player anyone there in the stands that day will tell you Logan was man-handled and outplayed by the Knights. Yes Oly and Kearns are weak and the Knights coasted in both games playing second and third string teams in the fourth quarters of both games. Up North the players hardly ever cross school boundaries to play for other teams and yet find a way to go deep into the playoffs and compete very well against the Junior College recruiting teams in the salt lake valley. So you can take your recruiting wins we will continue to mind our business and knock off teams like Alta in the first round of the playoffs ala 2010, and 2011

  • Mr. sheepherder Cedar City, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 10:40 a.m.

    ucepower1
    If you want to roast a sheep, I got some I will sell you cheep. I don't know why you want a pig. They role around in mud all day. Some of that gotta get in their skin.

  • binghamalum South Jordan, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 9:51 a.m.

    Okkkkk Okkkkk

    Lets stop all the talk about 5A region 1 teams!

    Reminder to those up north of Salt Lake.... Davis was your last state title.... in 2004!

    8 years its come to teams in the Valley, or Utah County...

    Syracuse has played one team from Region 2, 3 or 4, and either has Northridge.

    Northridge beat bad Olympus, and bad Kearns! OO look at for the 3-0 knights!
    Syracuse beat a bad 4A skyline, a bad 3A desert hills, and a mediocore Riverton team.

    Nridge has a solid win agianst a LOGAN team who didnt have 4 starters and there QB when they played first game of the season.

    Syracuse is very tought minded, but well see agianst BE at weber state.

    But even then, they will go play in the weak REGION 1, and beat up on each other then talk about how there the best and most competitive region in state, and maybe one of them will reach the turf for the finals again. but lose to either....

    Jordan, Alta, Bingham one ofthese 3 teams will win 5A, and East will get another shot at Logan in the 4A title game.

    Oh and Respect to Hurricane

  • Mr. sheepherder Cedar City, UT
    Sept. 7, 2012 9:14 a.m.

    I haven't made a coment because my wife made me move my home to enoch. She thinks we should be rootin for Canyon View now. I might just pull my home on back to town if she keeps naggin me about Canyon View.

  • ProudBigBrother NORTH SALT LAKE, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 11:25 p.m.

    @ eagle

    I agree that Sryacuse and Northridge are kind of the sleeping giants up north, who have incredible potential, but I don't know that they are ranked lower than they should be at this point. And I doubt anyone is looking past them, like Alta did with Syracuse in round one of the playoffs last year! They are both great programs this year who demand respect and are deservadly getting it.

    Syracuse vs Box Elder should be a great game tomorrow, maybe the game of the week, since they've both been so dominant thus far, and I expect Northridge to destroy West Lake.

  • Scots Ogden, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 11:08 p.m.

    Since 2008 Hurricane is 51-7(21-3) and have won there last 16 games, Made it to the last 4 3A Championship games. By the end of the year they could have won 26 games in a row with 61 wins in 5 years thats 12.2 per year and played in 5 title games in a row, Last team to do that was Skyline 95-99.

  • tiger06 SAINT GEORGE, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 8:46 p.m.

    Where is the Old Sheep farmer from Cedar City that was on here last year? I would like to hear what he has to say this year about the teams

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 7:53 p.m.

    Northridge and Syracuse might have arguments to be #1. Logan is a very good team and they were handled by Northridge on their home field and trust me it's hard to handle Logan anywhere, especially on their home field. Syracuse has been very dominant and has many returning starters. Maybe more respect is needed for these teams up north...

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 7:48 p.m.

    xxyyzz1100:

    Stansbury won 9 games last year, won its region title, has many returning starters and won a playoff game last year. Granger beat Cyprus who went winless last year. Perhaps Cyprus is improved but how much? And if Stansbury barely beat those teams you mentioned I might be concerned. But good teams blow out teams they should beat handily. Granger is 5A and won several games last year though they faded down the stretch, perhaps suggesting their true abilities. If they are legitimately this good they should beat a team like Cyprus handily, not eek one out. I suspect Cyprus might win one or two games and as harsh as that sounds, that might be a stretch. I suspect that Stansbury goes at least 8-1 if not finishes its regular season undefeated...

  • Tigerpride ,
    Sept. 6, 2012 7:25 p.m.

    @ red rocks

    For the same reason Prentiss Miller transferred from Hurricane to Pine View. Hurricane's system, for better or worse, revolves completely around the team. That means that no player is going to be a 4 year varsity player. Each standout Running back has exactly 1 year to prove themselves to college scouts, and that's it. Other region teams are more willing to play their younger players if they are exceptional athletes. Hurricane's system is great for the school... but not so much for the extremely good players.

  • ucepower1 St. George, UT
    Sept. 6, 2012 9:06 a.m.

    All I know is that I am roasting a pig Saturday after Pine View wins.

  • Prep Fanatic Los Angeles, CA
    Sept. 6, 2012 7:22 a.m.

    Here’s how the rankings should look: (Team, Record, Rating, Strength of Schedule)

    1.Jordan 2-0 56.1 21.8
    2.East 2-0 52.2 21.5
    3.Northridge 3-0 51 25.3
    4.Alta 3-0 49.8 33.4
    5.Syracuse 3-0 49.6 27.7
    6.Logan 2-1 48.5 40.8
    7.Brighton 3-0 47.3 29.9
    8.Bingham 2-1 46.4 35.5
    9.Hurricane 3-0 43.7 22.3
    10.Bountiful 2-1 39.6 29.8
    11.Davis 2-1 38.3 28.5
    12.Timpview 2-1 37.9 28.8
    13.Woods Cross 3-0 36.4 14.4
    14.Juan Diego 3-0 35.5 13.6
    15.Lone Peak 1-2 32.6 34.1
    16.Stansbury 3-0 32.4 0.1
    17.Pine View 2-1 32.1 24.8
    18.Cottonwood 0-2 31.6 43.4
    19.Roy 3-0 30.7 6.8
    20.Sky View 2-1 29.8 29.2

  • Dr Rush Saint George, UT
    Sept. 5, 2012 8:08 p.m.

    @everyone on Hurricane

    Hurricane is the best team in 3A until beaten period. Doesn't matter who transferred etc.
    As far as the rankings goes they are not in the top 10 in the state,their just not deep or good enough to beat a lot of the 4A and 5A teams ranked behind them. I'm curious to see if any of the other region 9 schools can compete with them this year, it should be fun.

  • louis65 Hurricane, UT
    Sept. 5, 2012 5:54 p.m.

    @ ucepower1

    I think this week will be big for PV. Are they legit like there were 5 years ago? Or are they like last years team, and not even playoff worthy? the PV- Dixie game will be a good indicator of where PV is this year. Keep in mind Hurricane has beat PV the past three years. PV hasn't even come close to stopping H-towns wing t offense. Who knows though, this year could be different. I am excited for region 9 football to start. we have such a great region. In my opinion i think the region go through H-town or Dixie. The good thing though is that its not up to us. We will just have to wait and see what happens.

    Good luck to region 9 teams!!!

    and go TIGERS!!!!

  • tigerfan HURRICANE, UT
    Sept. 5, 2012 3:12 p.m.

    Apparently Hurricane doesn't pass (someone forgot to tell them that this year) and the sophomore is the next Tom Brady so the parents went shopping for a school. The sad thing is the Junior is a stud rb and would have benefited immensely from Hurricane's running game. I don't understand how they are eligible to transfer without sitting out one year when they went to the Hurricane coach and threatened they would move if he didn't change to the spread. They then visited other schools and made it very clear they were moving to go to a school with a better passing offense. Seems like college rather than high school. They both are amazing young men and were loved by all the kids at Hurricane

  • ucepower1 St. George, UT
    Sept. 5, 2012 2:04 p.m.

    Pine View and Costco are close to each other and a good mix cause Costco sends out stuff in bulk and Pine View sends home other teams with losses in bulk.

  • amanap Washington, ut
    Sept. 5, 2012 11:43 a.m.

    @ucepower1, if that is your real name.

    I hope PV gives the Hurricane rb, I mean PV rb, 51 carries against Hurricane; that would be a fun game. Dixie is finesse and cowers at Hurricane's physicality and quits by the second half.

  • USC Fan in Utah Spanish Fork, UT
    Sept. 5, 2012 8:07 a.m.

    @ucepower1
    Well... if the radio guy ( local I'm sure ) said it, then it MUST be true. If Pineview can win out and win on the Turf... then Yep, they are the best. But, 3 games in and a TOUGH region to fight through, I think you might be a little premature.

    Best luck to all this weekend !

  • ucepower1 St. George, UT
    Sept. 5, 2012 7:33 a.m.

    amanap
    Pine View is by far the best team in 3A. Even the radio coverage guys say us and Dixie are the best.

  • markymark HERRIMAN, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 11:44 p.m.

    Ive seen them play the last 3 years in a row at the U. I think they should be about #15. Im not saying there not good, they just wouldn't compete against the best in 4a and 5a. Skyline and WJ are bottom tier teams.

  • Prep Fan 89 Draper, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 4:35 p.m.

    Based on the quality of the wins and the way that they have done it, Alta should be #1 in the rankings. I have no problem with East at #2 based on what they have done so far, but Bingham and most upper tier 5A teams would give them all they can handle. Jordan should be 2-1 so I would drop them out of the top 5 for now.

    Once again, how do you count the stats for a game that adds up to 28-27, but not count the outcome? Let's put it this way - if anyone sets state records this year based on the bogus stats that were counted Friday night, I don't see them holding up. George Felt himself posted last week and said that NEVER in the history of Utah has this been done. (Counting stats but not a game)

    Ridiculous!

  • ProudBigBrother NORTH SALT LAKE, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 3:37 p.m.

    @ SHS85

    I respect your opinion that Alta will not get past Jordan, but what facts led to that opinion? Believe me, I know Jordan is good! I expect a very competative game, but I think Alta may have what it takes, and here is why:
    Jordan:
    Vs Freemont 53-12. Freemont, who was scoreless against Brighton and Roy, and has very little offensive power, scored two TDs against Jordan, just before Half and in the 3rd quarter, before Jordan's second string took over.
    Vs Layton 56-14. Layton, who has good passing and fair rushing offense, only fair defense, scored two TDs in the third, again before second string took over.
    Vs East 27-28. East, who has a powerfull running game and good passing game, outscored Jordan after 3 quarters.
    Point being, Jordan's defense is their weakness, which Alta can exploit.

    Alta:
    Alta has a similary balanced offense to East, being more powerful on passing rather than rushing. Their defense is solid and getting better with every game, and it's stronger against the rush, which will help on Kafentzis.

    I'm hoping for a reply and look forward to the game! Go #1 (for now) Hawks!

  • One Observer Somewhere in, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 3:34 p.m.

    @red rocks

    "Why did the 2 boys from Hurricane move over to Dixie?"

    Because at Hurricane it's not likely either would have been a starter until his senior year, and maybe not then. The junior running back would have seen only back up duty for Hurricane this season. Moves to St George over the summer and now he's a starter for Dixie.

    The soph QB may not have ever played QB at Hurricane, and if he did, not until his senior season. At Dixie, he's the JV and varsity backup quarterback this season and presumptive starting QB next year.

    That's pretty much why kids transfer from Hurricane. There's enough athletic talent in that little town that not all good players get to play the position they want when they want.

  • Whiteshoes Orem, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 2:42 p.m.

    @footballisgood & @bigbenzo88

    Herriman is impressive. Very, very good. Deserving. Take your wins where you can get them.
    What I intended to convey is that Orem and Highland aren't as good as they have been in past years. The traditional names to which we have grown accustomed in the past (Orem, Highland, West, Provo, etc.)

  • amanap Washington, ut
    Sept. 4, 2012 2:32 p.m.

    @Fender

    I would pick Hurricane over each of those teams. Don't be a typical PV fan and try and belittle greatness that isn't your team, even if it is little ole Hurricane. Any other teams playing 4a and 5a teams in preseason and then top 5 3a teams in regular season and playoffs that have a 16 game winning streak? You just sound silly...

  • red rocks Saint George, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 1:50 p.m.

    Tiger fan

    Why did the 2 boys from Hurricane move over to Dixie? I have seen these brothers play through the years. They are great athletes and seem to be great young men.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 1:01 p.m.

    Irrelevant

    Like I said...just sounds silly.

  • tigerfan HURRICANE, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 12:51 p.m.

    Hurricane just scored 42 points against a tough 5A Vegas team (Legacy). They also beat WJ 28-14 and WJ's second score was against the 2nd team with less than two min to play. Bingham beat WJ 28-0 so Hurricane is right up there. I don't think they could handle 4A and 5A teams for a whole season because they just don't have the depth that these bigger schools have. A couple of injures would doom them. I think they are top ten worthy if they played any one of those teams once but in a season no way. Give Hurricane back the transfer players who went to PV and Dixie then I'd say top ten either way.

  • d0wns0uth Hurricane, UTAH
    Sept. 4, 2012 12:21 p.m.

    Does it really matter what you may think, for who is ranked where and why. Nobody is gettin any special cookies for being ranked where they are. Most of all the top ten could contend with each other thats all that means. Let the kids that play decide each week where thay belong. Until somebody beats any of the top 10 teams well guess what they will stay right there. Maybe if you suit up and play they would be ranked higher lol.

  • SHS85 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 12:15 p.m.

    ProudBigBrother

    East has scrimmaged Jordan and Bingham and did not turnover the football like they did at the game on Friday. East dominated both of those teams and Alta will not get passed Jordan next week. We will see what happens, Good luck to all the Teams

  • xxyyzz1100 SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 11:55 a.m.

    @ eagle

    Stansbury beats beats Uintah, Park City and Delta and you call Cyprus a doormat team? But that makes Stansbury legit? Pine View gets handled by East then beats Uintah and Orem so that makes them legit also? Your 2 legit teams are basically doormats among doormats! They are where they should be. Look down. Doormat.

  • Irrelevant Hurricane, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 11:33 a.m.

    @fender

    Hurricane has won (correct me if i'm wrong) 16 straight games. and haven't lost a home game since 2007 which includes 4A and 5A teams. obviously they aren't the best in state, but you can't ignore 16 in a row. bigger schools expect higher rankings, Hurricane on the other hand would prefer to fly under the radar. its smart. we like being smart.

    pineview on the other hand always seems to cry when they are unranked. dnews has a love affair with the team in washington. hmph

    nevertheless lets enjoy the sport.

  • fender Washington, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    Knightrider

    I have seen Hurricane play and think they're legit at #1 in 3A, at least going into region play. #8 in the state? No way. Do you seriously think Hurricane would beat Timpview, Woods Cross, Logan, Bountiful, or Lone Peak--all of which are ranked behind Hurricane? Be content that someone at the DNews likes Hurricane. Don't try to justify it...just sounds silly.

  • BigBenzo88 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 8:55 a.m.

    @Parry is a Farce - Northridge and Syracuse are both good teams and you are probably right...won't be decided until both teams play each other.

    In regards to the Jordan/East game...it went down as never happened. The only issue at hand is that the stats still count. So both teams get the benefit of 3 games worth of stats, but only divided by 2 games. You should see a big jump in per game stats from all players from East and Jordan. Its odd though because you would think that you can't separate the two...either you count the game and the stats or you don't count the game and don't count the stats. It will be interesting to see if the UHSAA steps in to resolve the issue. The easiest thing to do would be to count the game, count the stats and give the win to East.

  • BigBenzo88 Herriman, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 5:58 a.m.

    @Whiteshoes - Orem and Highland may have taken a step back this year...that may be why Herriman beat them by 4 and 3 touchdowns respectively.

    Since Herriman's creation in 2010, every year there seems to be a trend to discredit their accomplishments. Other than a bad game against 5A Riverton...Herriman is right with the Top 5 of this list. Herriman was a small favorite over Orem and beat them by 28 points. Herriman was a small underdog against Riverton and lost by 1 point in overtime at a neutral site. Herriman was a big underdog against Highland and won by 3 touchdowns.

    In 2010 they were predicted to go 0-10 and found a way to the playoffs...only 5A team to ever do that in 1st year. 2011 they were predicted to go 5-5 and finished 8-4 going to the playoffs again. This year I hear the same chatter that Herriman is not one of the elite teams of 4A or of Utah. I disagree. There are teams that have the ability to beat Herriman. However, Herriman can compete with any team in Utah.

  • footballisgood Holladay, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 12:53 a.m.

    Not sure I agree, Whiteshoes. Orem is better than they were a year ago, they return almost everyone and have a year in the system. Highland lost some good offensive production but I think that they are actually better defensively than a year ago, so call it a push. Herriman was flat for most of the game against a solid Riverton squad, but played much better against a Highland defense that is not going to give up many points.

  • knightrider Sportstown, UT
    Sept. 4, 2012 12:16 a.m.

    @markymark

    Have you even seen Hurricane play this year? Until you have, why don't you just give them the benefit of the doubt because they are legit. They've beaten 4A and 5A schools the last few years without any problem, this year being no exception.

  • Whiteshoes Orem, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:52 p.m.

    Herriman gave Riverton a great game, but their wins against Highland and Orem aren't so impressive as both of those programs have taken a step backwards.

  • Sampson Orem, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:42 p.m.

    East looks tough, but I think Alta has a better defense. Logan looks tremendous--whipping a solid Bountiful last week. Most of the poll is legit. Lone Peak and Mt. Crest should be ranked lower while Sky View is much better than Timpanogos, Granger, or PG.

    For those who may doubt the 3A teams, I'd advise against that trend. I watched those those three teams and they can play with anybody.

  • ProudBigBrother NORTH SALT LAKE, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:08 p.m.

    Response to UtahUte16
    Yeah, I'm not sure why East is #1. Beating Pine View and West, even as dominantly as they did, doesn't really deserve #1, IMHO. I don't discredit their skill, and I do think they deserve top 5, but not #1. I too think Alta, based on their accomplishments over Bingham and Timpview, and how they easily picked apart Olympus (not really bragging rights, but still a quality win) deserves #1.
    But from there it gets tough to say. I think the only think that I would change on your ranks would be Jordan over Bingham. So, as follows:
    1. Alta
    2. East
    3. Jordan
    4. Bingham
    5. Syracuse
    Afterall, Bingham has lost a game and, as we know, Jordan is just one step (or 1 point) behind East in talent.
    I'm excited to see Jordan and Alta battle it out in two weeks! As an Alta fan, I'm curious to see if the Hawks can top the Beatdiggers!

  • MoabUte Springville, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 11:01 p.m.

    Box Elder shuts out 3 consecutive opponents and draws a 21 ranking behind 1-2 teams and 2-1 teams?
    Does play on the field not mean much?

  • markymark HERRIMAN, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 10:52 p.m.

    Seems about right for me, except for Hurricane

  • UtahUte16 Salt Lake City, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 10:13 p.m.

    What warrants East at number 1? Doesn't make sense to me.

    1. Alta
    2. East
    3. Bingham
    4. Jordan
    5. Syracuse

  • eagle Provo, UT
    Sept. 3, 2012 9:29 p.m.

    Granger is overrated. You don't barely beat a traditional 4A doormat (Cyprus) and still be ranked. But where's Stansbury or Pine View in the rankings? Those two teams are legit. You could even take a look at Roy at 3-0 with a proven great coach and a win over the returning 5A finalist Fremont. Another team to eyeball is Maple Mountain at 3-0 as well as Layton.