re:Anti Bush-ObamaNo actually BO made it very clear that the
government alone is responsible for all job creation and business success. If
private industry isn't creating enough jobs then the government takes over
and hand picks brilliant alternative energy companies to throw our tax dollars
at - and watch them go bankrupt. Yes sir - who do ya trust?? At least Obama is
consistent with his failures.
Romney and Obama don't create jobs. The Government doesn't create
jobs. We create jobs.
JoeBlow said "Wouldn't it be refreshing if we could get a group of non
partisan economists and let them come to a consensus on tax rates and economic
policies? And then support and implement their ideas?"Wasn't that the whole idea behind the Simpson/Bowles commission whose
findings were summarily rejected by the Obama administration?
Pretty interesting, I think, when the Deseret News has to request a member
running for president to be honest.
Yes, absolutely the "country needs and honest exchange about jobs"But that is not what most people want. They want to put forth the
talking points and plans of their party.And the people making those
plans are people who got elected. They may be doctors or lawyers, or school
teachers. But most are unqualified to understand the complexities of the
economy. As am I.Wouldn't it be refreshing if we could get a
group of non partisan economists and let them come to a consensus on tax rates
and economic policies? And then support and implement their ideas?Call me crazy. Or, we can just stick with the current system and
just listen to those with little or no qualifications other than they won an
But Barack said three years ago if he was given his first 787 billion spendathon
that unemployment wouldn't reach 8 percent. It reached 8 and has been over
that rate for three years, even after several spendathons. Bush was not great,
but he has nothing to do with Obama telling the country that if given his first
787 billion that it wouldn't reach 8 percent. Barack, time to be
I think Paul Ryan did give a pretty clear explanation during the RNC if you
actually listened to his whole speech. He clearly outlined the Obama failures of
the past 4 years from the mis-spent and wasted stimulus to Obamacare and
medicare. He explained why OBama's new taxes are going to cause small
business to layoff even more ... and by the way Ryan has been saying this for 4
years now and he has been dead on. He predicted pretty much everything regarding
the OBama plan and why borrowing and borrowing from China is economic suicide
for America. Trouble is the next 4 years are just more of the same. Nothing new.
It isn't hard to predict an outcome when you have already watched the game.
Great quotation Roland! Where's it from?
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit
of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is
the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher
consideration."--Abraham LincolnHappy Labor Day everyone.
When it comes to the working class, Romney and the GOP are so far beyond a joke
that it is tragic. Sadly, the other party has not fought enough for the middle
class because of the enormous influence of Wall Street and corporate special
interests. Maybe we should just be honest and start calling this "Corporate
Titan" day inasmuch as they are the ones who we worship and to whom we give
special privileges. Why, one of our major political parties is solely dedicated
to their interests.
Actually I think this is a pretty fair presentation of the complexity of the
issues facing our economy. We have both short term and long term problems and
they are different. Short term we still have a lack of demand because of
unemployment, savings, and workers digging themselves out of the debt they
acrued in the first part of this century. We also have a problem that is both
short term and long term and that is the issue the article mentions that entire
sections of our economy along with the associated jobs don't exsist
anymore.Liberals need to switch (not abandon) their focus from the
short term to the long term and start to champion whole new industries.
Conservatives need to realize that more of the same, tax cuts, tax cuts, and
more tax cuts, and a loosing of regulations for exsisting industries does
nothing for the present and or the future.This isn't your
fathers recession, this is tectonic shift in americas future.
Ann Romney says that her husband will make "the tough decisions" about
the economy -- seemingly implying that Obama has not. Clearly, the bail out of
the auto industry and stimulus (1/3 of which were tax cuts!) were tough, if
unpopular and necessary decisions given how close the economy was on the brink
of collapse. Loss of the auto industry and its networks of related supplier
industries would have driven U.S. unemployment much higher. Even the likes of
Clint Eastwood acknowledge that GM has made a comeback!Given that
Romney has not given much detail on his economic plan of "tough
decisions," Paul Ryan's presence suggests that the federal government
will make some massive budget cuts. The outcome: Higher unemployment. Yes, under Romney we'll all get tax cuts -- including the
wealthiest of Americans who off-shore their wealth. But we're likely to
have higher unemployment as well, and we'll need "hope" that the
job creators will use their tax cuts to make jobs at home. I
welcome an honest conversation about jobs. The GOP's sudden concern about
deficits under Obama, but not under Bush was calculated, disingenuous political
theater that hurt America's recovery.
Don't forget in sourcing. Obama's job program for the world to come
here. Between insourcing and out sourcing we are going to lose this country if
we don't put American jobs for Americans first. I've heard
the "through automation and outsourcing" over the flood of Japanese
produced goods. China and India are seeing labor unions, global economies level
out. But if Americans don't have jobs, we can't buy goods from