U 90As EVERYONE knows, including our whiny friends on the hill,
Weber State, New Mexico State, Idaho and San Jose State were simply fillers that
Holmoe had to resort to in order to schedule 24 games for 2011 and 2012 in such
a short time period.Unlike the Utes, who only had to schedule a
couple of games for 2011 and 2012, and still ended up scheduling a couple of Big
Sky patsies, including a team that was WINLESS in 2011.
SoonerUte"while in the Mountain West, the Utes didn't pay
any attention to who was up and who was down in the conference. They focused,
and got their business done."So how do you explain Kyle's
losses to Colorado State, Wyoming, New Mexico, and that humiliating shutout to
10-loss UNLV?Bronco never lost to ANY of those teams.Which explains why Bronco has FIVE Top 25 finishes and Kyle only THREE. Bronco
knows how to pay attention to every team on his schedule, unlike Kyle, who
frequently falls asleep against his "lesser" opponents, like 10-loss
@u 90SJSU looks like they might be legit competition, at least based
on the way they played against a certain pac 12 team this last weekend. That is
the thing about college football, if a school has a group of upper classmen that
have played together for a few years they can be a pretty decent team despite
not having previous success. It certainly happened for utah in 2008 as they were
pretty mediocre the previous 2-3 years. As for the other 3 you
mentioned, well I have my doubts that any of them will be "legit" but of
course we all know why they are on the schedule now and why they are not on any
future schedules although I wouldn't rule out one of them occasionally
being on a future schedule as everyone schedules a patsy or two most years. But I also don't anticipate any of them being as bad as Northern
Colorado, not that it matters, but that was the ultimate "patsy".
CougFanTx,So would you count Weber State, New Mexico State, Idaho
and San Jose State as legit competition? Keep throwing those rocks from your
Just wondering "Have the Utes played on Saturday yet? Oh yeah,
first Saturday game will be 9/15 thanks to the Cougars and their world-wide
network partner!" You are correct! And thank YOU, once again
for letting us use your "world-wide network partner" last year in Provo.
That worked out great for the Utes, no so much for you guys, but for us...YES!
...I'm shocked, a Friday night game in Logan? I thought that elite college
football teams from THE Pac12 didn't play games on Friday nights? Have the
Utes played on Saturday yet? Oh yeah, first Saturday game will be 9/15 thanks
to the Cougars and their world-wide network partner!
Tom in CA: Utah's being superior to to BYU has nothing to do with being in
the PAC-12. It has much more to do with winning 7 of the past 10 games with them
including an old fashioned butt-whipping in Provo last year. In those 7 wins,
Utah has won by 15+ points per game while the 3 BYU wins are by a total of 12
points combined. That started long before Utah joined the PAC-12.
Tom in CA - while in the Mountain West, the Utes didn't pay any attention
to who was up and who was down in the conference. They focused, and got their
business done. That helped them get to 2 BCS bowl games.California
lost to Nevada? Doesn't affect the Utes.Colorado lost to Colorado
State? Doesn't affect the Utes.Washington State lost to BYU? Only
affects the Utes if the Cougars walk away over-confident after beating a team
with a new coach, and Weber State.
at kitsutsuki,Ya, the arrogance of Whit and the U trying to downplay
the importance of the second game of a difficult season so as not to emotionally
peak in week two. It is almost as arrogant as saying yes, we wil
play Utah State, but we are such a great opponent you must come to Happy Valley
twice, while we will only venture once from our beloved LES.
@ GoRed"But it's interesting that you don't mention the
other 7 games.Don't these games count as well?"Honestly, if
it was up to me, I wouldn't count some of them. There needs to be more
competitive OOC games, instead of picking on teams that would get beat by some
high school teams. Kudos to Michigan and Alabama, Boise State and Michigan
State for battling it out in Week 1.
"No one ever said the PAC-12 had twelve powerful football teams."Thanks for the clarification. Comments from some of your
"brethren" would have one believe a team not a member of the mighty
Pac-12 is inferior, and further, any team e.g. Utah who is now a member of that
conference is suddenly superior to anyone else e.g. BYU.Looking
forward to 15 September. And Friday night's game in Logan should be very
My daughter and I drove from Nevada several years ago to see a Utah-Utah State
game in Romney Stadium. I remember being surprised how easily the Utes
demolished the Aggies, then newly minted members of the WAC. I thought it would
be a better game.This year could well be a better game. The Aggies
are much improved. Coach Andersen has done an amazing job. And nobody should
believe the Aggies will be an easy opponent, not anymore.That said,
I do believe the Utes should be favored to win. The defense will keep the Utes
in the game. Yes, I admire Chuckie and the offense he leads. It may well be in
the top 3 the Utes will face all year. Utah's offense has tremendous
potential. Wynn should have gotten the rust out in a game where playing his best
wasn't essential. Special teams needs to be able to count on field goals
and extra points, but otherwise special teams play should be very good.Will it be easy? No, the Aggies are going to be very tough. But, I have
confidence in the Utes pulling it out.
Should be a good game, good luck to both teams and I hope there is safety for
both sides! Go Utes!
Kitsutsucky-Did you even read the article? Because the general
feeling by Utah coaches and players is that of respect for Coach Anderson and
USU. At the same time, the last few times they've played Utah state, Utah
has won by 20 or more points. Not only that, but they haven't played in 2
years. I'm not downplaying Utah state's potential, but
from a fan's perspective, this doesn't at all feel like a rivalry game
@ Tom in CANo one ever said the PAC-12 had twelve powerful football teams.
Is it OK for some of the bottom dwellers to get beat by teams from other
conferences? Sure it is! The Conference of Champions just means that the top
teams in the conference in any given sport can compete VERY successfully on a
national scale. All conferences have weaker teams, even the mighty SEC.
This is the problem with Whittingham and the Utah administration - comments like
"it's just another ballgame" and "There's really nothing
that sets this game apart". No doubt it is another ballgame, but the
arrogance Whittingham shows by not even acknowledging the significance of a
rivalry that has been ongoing for 110 or more years is pretty sad. Do you think
USC would downplay the importance of their rivalry with Notre Dame or USC?
Never. Whittingham and the administration at the U should revisit
the concept of "How to Win Friends and Influence People". But this
attitude of "we're better than you now" simply because the U
belongs to the PAC12 doesn't fly.Good luck USU.
Sorry, I meant to say to GoRed not @ Tom in CA
@ Tom in CAThe interesting thing you fail to mention about those 7
Pac 12 teams that won is the level of competition those teams played to get
those wins. ASU crushes NAU (are you really that impressed?)Utah posts a shutout against Northern Colorado (an FBS team who hasn't
won a game since 2010)Arizona beats Toledo in OT (bragging about beating a
MAC team in OT, not impressive)Oregon beats Arkansas St. (I agree it was
impressive, but unfortunately the Utes avoid one of the two best teams in the
conference)UCLA dominates Rice (As expected considering Rice is a bottom
of the pack C-USA team)USC demolishes Hawaii (USC definitely looked the
part of a top team in the country)Washington beats SDSU 21-12 (well at
least Washington could do something Colorado couldn't do and that is beat a
middle of the pack Mountain West team)Overall, the pac 12 did not
have a good week outside of the big two (Oregon and USC).
@Tom in CAYes, those were the 3 (4, if you count Stanford's
less-than-impressive victory over San Jose State) disappointments for the
"Conference of champions," as you put it. But it's interesting
that you don't mention the other 7 games (Oregon State did not play):Washington wins,Arizona also wins,UCLA dominates,ASU
crushes their opponent,Utah posts a shutout,USC demolished former
USC offensive coordinator Coach Chow's Hawaii team, andOregon was up
50-3 in the 2nd quarter before putting in their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th stringers.Don't these games count as well?
The WAC (including recent WAC and semi-WAC) did well against the PAC-12 last
Conference of champions week one beat by:NevadaBYUColorado StateSan Jose State loses by only 3 to powerhouse
Stanford (at the farm).
I like that Utah plays Utah State! They better bring their A defense, the
Aggies QB is "Michael Vickish" and could easily be considered the #1 QB
in Utah College football this year and a few more as well.
You are underestimating the Aggies it will go either way...
very interesting photo attached to the article.
The Aggies looked good last week. We will need to play better on offense. We
should be able to beat them by 10+ points.