These posts pretty much show the microcosm of America; just add up those for
Obama and those for Romney and it's about 50/50. With that said, I really
do get tired of both candidates and their campaigns telling us what the American
people want. I believe America is split, and we need a president and a senate
and congress who recognize that there are vast differences in what America
believes and can lead without alienating 50 percent of the people at any given
Furry 1993,You didn't hear Romney's speech today. He
railed on the Republican actions during the Bush years that helped create this
mess. Romney is smarter than most people realize and a much harder worker than
most Americans. His leadership will accomplish things Bush never dreamed of.
It's the Democratic senates responsibility to present a budget each year to
Congress. It the Presidents responsibility to make sure they do it.3
1/2 years with no vision, no budget. Just paying the bills that come in. You
can't blame Bush for this irresponsible action. We can't afford
another four years without a budget.
Name one promise regarding the economy that Obama made in 2008 that has come
true over the past 4 years. One !!! He "promised" to cut the deficit in
half and instead he added 6 trillion to it!! He "promised" that if we
passed his 800 billion dollar stimulus unemployment - then at 6.7% -
wouldn't rise above 8%. It hit as high as 10.1%. He "promised" to
cut the misery index - people in poverty and instead the misery index has sky
rocketed with more people on food stamps that ever before and black unemployment
way up to 15%. He "promised" to create jobs and instead he has a NET job
loss of over 1 million (NET == the combination of jobs gained and lost). The
bottom line here is Obama's word means NOTHING!! The man has zero
credibility which explains why the dem's NEVER talk about the economy. As I
understand it this next jobs report for August is going to be UGLY and as usual
Fox News will be the ONLY one that reports it.
The CBO projects unemployment to hit 9.5% at the end of 2013 beginning of 2014 -
that is what Democrat's call a "rebound"? Sounds to me more like
fumbling the ball out of bounds. There is a show on ESPN called "Numbers
Don't Lie". This show analyzes why a certain NFL team or player is
struggling by looking at statistics and when you analyze the statistics the
reason for failure becomes clear. The same exact thing is true with politics and
leadership - numbers don't lie.. but politicians do ... especially
democrat's in 2012! Take a look at the economic numbers and it is clear
there is not going to be any recovery unless a reverse course occurs. Tax rates
are set to sky rocket under Obama with Obamacare and the expiration of the Bush
tax cuts. Higher taxes on small business translates to more layoffs - not more
hiring. Pretty simple for anyone actually paying attention. Cut out the hype and
the misinformation and what are you left with? The Obama economic plan for 2013.
More taxes - more borrowing and more unemployment!! Not my numbers - the
CBO's numbers and Numbers Don't Lie!!! Obama does!
Romney has lots of cliches and not many detailed policies. Tell me more.
Release your taxes like your dad did.
@Joan WatsonI find it ironic that you repeatedly call me "L"
aggie (rather than "1" aggie) and then question my eyesight.In my post, I specifically addressed 401K holders (not people who have lost
money via "other" investments), so naturally I would expect since you
addressed me, you would be responding to my post (about 401K plans). You see,
when somebody addresses somebody else in a post, it is customary to respond to
the topic raised. If you want to raise another topic, it would be more
appropriate to address everybody. I note that nobody has
responded that they are worse-off in their (responsible) 401K investments since
Obama took the helm. Responsible President plus responsible investors =
Keep 'em scared, 'mitt.
Laggie - PS where in my post did you read of a 401K plan? I hope you have a
seeing eyed investment broker.
@ JustmeI have voted Democrat, Green, Independent, and Republican
over the years. My political views have evolved as I have grown from a
know-it-all 18 year old to a 40 something father of three making twenty grand
less than I did four years ago. I am not following "talking points".
I'm just telling you what I am feeling. If you want to discount what my
experience is with regards to my pocket book and how things are for millions of
people across the country go ahead and cast me aside. But what I will tell you
with a straight face is that I cannot afford things to get worse. I'm
happy you have bounced back from adversity. I haven't got a check in the
mail from Obama yet; trickle down government doesn't seem to be working for
Laggie - how interesting that you challenge a republican to be honest. One
certainly hopes at least there are some honest republicans and democrts. How
about a 2/3 loss in ones lifes savings all invested in perfered stock after the
US government called in invested bonds? One doesn't expect SS to go broke,
but in case it does there will be many people in deep trouble. As for the
housing debacle, look no further than fannie and freddie. And for your info -
ones loss will not be made up in ones lifetime = a marvelous drop in monthly
income. You must be doing financialy well - if so, good for you. The
realization is that many are not doing well.
Lehicoug,Not sure if you have not paid attention to your insurance
premiums before, but I have to say mine have gone up every year I have worked
(and that is quite some time). My salary has fluctuated due to a move to a
different state, and being laid off, but each time bounced back.The rest
of your bill will continue to increase each year no matter who is in office,
just as they have done in the past.Can you honestly say that you are in a
worse situation now then you were in the last year of Bush's presidency, or
are you just falling for the GOP talking point and not really looking at the big
As I see it; the nation is headed for a fiscal cliff and Obama and the Democrats
have their foot on the accelerator. The Republicans want to put the brakes
on.Democrats either don't see the cliff, don't believe it
is there or... (I can't go there.)The difference could not be
Obama said himself if the economy didn't rebound in three years he would be
a one term president. With smoke and mirrors they can try and distort this
"recovery" but the truth is everyone I know is struggling to combat the
effects of this stagnant economy; it's become personal. Since 2008 my
health insurance premiums have doubled, my salary has not improved, my power
bill is more expensive. So personally I am feeling it for the first time in my
twenty plus years of working. Supporting my family has truly become a struggle.
Mr. Geithner has said the Administration has no plan; just that they hate
Ryan's. All I know is that if my family is a microcosm of what is going on
in America, Obama is in trouble-or should be. Heaven help those that will
blindly follow the President just because he's a Democrat.
Mitt Romney is a wonderful person as his is wife and family. If it were just
about the two men I would vote for Mitt.However being president
takes more than what he has shown so far. His finance plan is according to the
tax office in Washington DC is going to increase the debt by 2.1 trillion
dollars. His intellectual head of the party Mr. Ryan even tells us it will take
3 decades to balance the budget. I am not sure about your bank but mine would
have a problem with those figures.Mr. Romneys trip to see the
Olympics and visit some foreign countries was nothing short of a debacle.
Acting nice is not enough.Now Mr Romney says he has a plan to put
people back to work. Has he been hiding it for 4 years while the country
struggles? In June Orrin Hatch said the party did not have a plan to put people
back to work, so where did it come from?Show us you are willing to
step up past the status quo, until then you are one of many voices instead of
If Mitt has his way, we'll go right back to the programs and policies that
caused the problem in the first place. That is NOT what the country needs.I really wonder how much better off we would have been if those on the
far right had actually WORKED to make thing better instead of just trying to
block everything the President proposed. The far right was too busy trying to
make the President fail, and spent no time working for the country's
One has wrapped oneself as a cocoon - warm and snug - dreaming all is well.
The real estate debacle was caused by Carter, Clinton, Barney Frank and Chris
Dodd abetted by Reid and Polosi. They are the ones who pushed for easy
mortgages. Bush even went to Congress over 10 times to stop it, but Frank said
no. So don't put it all on the Republicans. Moreover if the Democrats were
so concerned about our financial mess why didn't they start working on it
in 2006 when they took over Congress? We have a lot more to worry about than a
$16 trillion national debt. We have Medicare and Medicaid, and Social Security
obligations of $50 trillion or more. Unless we get our economy moving again and
fast we are in trouble. Believe it.
I would like any honest Republican (if there is still such a thing) with a job
to tell whether the value of your 401k plan has increased or decreased since
Obama took office, and by what percent. The job situation needs to improve to
be sure, but the economy has come back from the brink. The stock market
reflects the optimism or pessimism of objective investors who put their money
where there mouths are. The Dow was in the 7,900's when Obama took office
and it is now above 13,000.
A1994, no, if Romney wins and things somehow actually change, I'll be out
there leading the cheering.But I really don't think it will be
I will vote for Mr. Romney; however, I do know the stock market has doubled
since March 2009 lows, and 90 percent of working adults are working (we hear
often of unemployment rate-----what of the employment rate??? it is pretty
good) ; yet things can improve a lot; I do think Mr. Obama has been successful
and most Americans like him personally; however, second terms are full of
disappointment, Willard M. Romney would bring a breath of fresh air as
president. Mr. Obama is a good person, yet in my view his party is corrupt with
few ideas, cynical and moving towards secularism and ignoring community and
family as the answers to life. People who have faith in principle are
generally nicer than those who worship university prestige and power and
Hollywood and art and science.
@one old manYou sound like your trying to convince yourself more
than anyone else. When Romney is elected this November and the economy
rebounds, people like you will tell us it was just a delayed reaction to Barack
Obama's policies. No nation has ever taxed and spent itself into
But they certainly are reluctant to let us know exactly who is responsible for
putting us at the brink.To learn the truth, try Googling such things
as "Policy Differences Under Two Presidents" to learn how much of
today's debt increases are a direct result of policies initiated under the
administration of President Cheney and his little friend.Or locate
the Wall Street Journal article "The Obama Spending Spree That Never
Happened" to learn even more about how the debt we face now stems from the
time of St. Ronald the Reagan.There are many, many more if one makes
an effort to find them and the truth.So much for GOP truthfulness.