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Published: Friday, Aug. 31 2012 4:54 p.m. MDT

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Sophie 62
spring city, UT

Gee, for a minute there I thought that the Deseret News was suggesting that people should check the facts against claims by the GOP. I had a momentary flare of hope, but it was doused when I understood what they were really saying: Fact-checkers are not to be trusted.

Sophie 62
spring city, UT

Anyone who believes that America is perfect and has always behaved perfectly out there in the world is pretty unrealistic. Americans and America have done some pretty great things, aiding other countries in many ways. But America and Americans have also made a lot of mistakes, some of them terrible and far reaching. Some of them accidental and some because of some very self-serving motives, not caring about the consequences as long as they get what they want. Other countries have done the same.

Why be enraged and offended because Obama acknowledged that America hasn't always been perfect? It's the truth. He also pointed out that other countries are not perfect.
It takes strength to tell the truth.
If Bush had made these same statements, the people who are enraged now would have interpreted them differently.
It's only because Obama said them that people are angry and offended.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

The term fact-checkers may appear to have some truth to it but it is actually a form that is similar to statistics. Those people, especially in the Internet days have the ability to pull data from a variety of sources to show that the information is valid. The fact that that term exists is there for a specific reason, to allure people that don't do their own research to pull data to prove what they want to prove, whether it is valid or not.

When politicians these days decide to be politicians, a lot of them believe they can do anything, whether it is truth or not, to get elected by people. In a time when very few go to the polls to vote, those type of politicians don't have to prove anything to those voters as those voters don't study and learn about people or issues.

Others, who don't want the untruthful words to influence what people really value, integrity, honesty and character, then they dig into those statements or facts to study for others that don't do it. As my friend said 48 years ago, "Truth is truth, only the facts change"

Counter Intelligence
Salt Lake City, UT

@silo
"From Politifact...

"and more importantly, the Janesville plant shut down before he took office."

in case you missed it..."

the plant closed in April 2009 - after Obama took office

isn't it interesting the politicifact is actually political tool

HotGlobe
SAN RAFAEL, CA

It's not just that the term "apology tour" is part of the big lie as there were no apologies. The other problem here is that if you look at what Obama said, it was all quite admirable. America has made mistakes and has been arrogant and he was trying to turn things around and be a better partner on the world stage. There should have been bi-partisan cheering. Instead, the attitude seems to be "never admit a mistake." That is stupid and dangerous.

MapleDon
Springville, UT

It's interesting to me that the DesNews (which has a policy of not criticizing Pres Obama) has never--and will never--publish any fact check of anything Obama says. Nor will they ask the paramount question of its readers, "Are you better off today than you were four years ago?" As a news organization the DesNews, along with all other MSM, is absurd. This one-sided reporting and shaping of public opinion is offensive to any thinking person.

Mike in Cedar City
Cedar City, Utah

Good Grief DN, you have to jump through so many hoops to punch up your boy. You and your minions are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts. The factual truth is that Romney and the Republicans have deliberately created a fictional Obama, a straw man to strike down with multiple lies. Most of the responsible press has reported that reprehensible attack. But, your obvious bias will not let you do objective journalism How sad, how unprofessional.

FazaPops
Ponte Vedra, FL

I've lived in Washington DC most of my adult life. My wife was the secretary to a former cabinet member. I've been to way too many political functions in my life. I have news for you. I've tried red Kool-Aid. I've tried blue Kool-Aid. They're both Kool-Aid. They both pretty much taste the same. And they're both bad for you. Drink up.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Debunking the fact checkers. So basically the DN is saying "don't believe anyone anymore".

Here is an idea, why don't the candidates focus more on what they can and will do (or intend to do), rather than spending 90 percent of their calories on trying to explain the opposition.

Worf actually had a good comment a while ago. Lets treat this as a job hire excursive. Now those of you who have actually done hiring... how many people have you brought on board that spend 80 percent of their interview trash talking their other applicants. Anyone?

So why do we tolerate it from these men? Can anyone explain that to me?

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