Fascinating how posters who routinely rip on the LDS Church are the ones
pronouncing the program "fair"
Piggie: You need to re-read Ranch Hands post. He was disputing the caffiene
comment, not claiming it to be true.
1. It was an independantly produced TV program, NOT a Missionary tool. If the
church wants an hour long Nation-wide infommecial, they can pay for one. This
was a freebie.2. NBC is the evil so-called
"Lame-Stream-LIBERAL-Media", the church was treated with kid-gloves. BTW
- remind me again,...Wasn't it Fox News on Fox & Friends that kept
broadcasting and insisting that Mitt Romney was NOT even a Christian and Fox
News commentor Juan Williams (falsely) implied as recently as just last week
that the LDS church was racist because blacks were allowed in LDS Churches but
not LDS Temples?3. Not one word about us LDS being the ones
promoting such bizzare things as unorthodox marriages [polygamy], Social Justice
& Communism [the United Order], or that other 9/11 terrosit attack in 1857
[Mountain Meadows Massacre].Like I said -- kid gloves.
Maybe if Rock Center did more; it would have gotten negative? Then,
the persecution complex gets played again not to mention rants about bias in the
mainstream media. re: RanchHand 8/28 9:08 a.m.Liberal
NBC being shills for Willard? Really?
@Miss Piggie;The family that was profiled said: "I've never
had a coke" because she was following the WoW. I was pointing out the
inaccuracy of the presentation there. Mormons are NOT forbidden to drink
caffeine, otherwise they wouldn't even drink their beloved Hot Chocolate.
But they guzzle coke like there's no tomorrow. They made it appear as if
you couldn't drink the beverages. That is completely inaccurate.By profiling an inter-racial couple, they made it seem as if it was the norm.
It is, as you said, very rare.The welfare program segment was
interesting and I'm sure non-members would find it very interesting.I'm glad they included Abby Huntsman; and she was not negative at
@PeanutGallery:"Harry Smith said essentially, 'I can go
into OTHER churches -- why can't I go into the Mormon temple?'"If Harry wants to know about the Temple Garment... he has pictures.If he wants to know about the Temple ceremony, he can go on line.
RanchHand:"Mormon's are forbidden to drink caffeine for
one..."Where'd you get that little tidbit? The Word of
Wisdom lists as forbidden only wine, strong drink, tobacco, and hot drinks. The
guy's Dr. Pepper he admitted drinking now and again doesn't fall into
any of those categories.Furthermore, the WoW was designed and
adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints. And not by
commandment or constraint."The piece was over the top
positive."The piece was slanted and selective. How many
interracial marriages do you find in the LDS Church? It's extremely rare.
Same with homosexuality.And why does anyone need to get their
perspective from someone who's left the church, such as the Huntsman
girl?None of this stuff was mainstream and had no place in an
interview to discover what Mormon belief/Chruch is all about.Though,
I'll have to admit, the segment on the Welfare System was informative and
"But other parts seemed subtly slanted to make Mormons appear to be too
rigid and intolerant and exclusive and blindly obedient"Slanted?
Others would argue that it's an objective observation.News you
don't like doesn't always equate to bias.
As a non member who has lived here for many years, I thought the coverage of
Church by NBC was very favorable. To ask for more would have required the PR
department of the Church write the script. They left the standard drivel
(polygamy) in the background and gave a real boost by showing a faithful
interracial family as if that is so common. The section on the Book of Mormon,
the Musical was a veiled shot at the Church and homosexuality, but even that was
balanced by the section on the gay man who was still practicing and faithful as
he walked in the Pride parade. On the whole it was free nationwide publicity
for the Church.
Much of the NBC program was positive or benign regarding the LDS church. But
other parts seemed subtly slanted to make Mormons appear to be too rigid and
intolerant and exclusive and blindly obedient. The program appeared to be
timed on the eve of the Republican convention in order to plant a few doubts in
people's minds about a Romney presidency.Harry Smith said
essentially, "I can go into OTHER churches -- why can't I go into the
Mormon temple?" Well, Harry, you are welcome to attend Mormon worship
services. They are held on Sundays in thousands of chapels across the country.
On the whole, Mormons are an open, friendly, and inviting people. But NBC
seemed determined to focus on a few people on the fringe. Further, the showing
of people wearing only LDS garments/underwear was rather disrespectful.Also, congrats to the Jackson family, who were observed and interviewed
extensively for this program. They represented their LDS faith very well.
And immediately after the program aired, they were interviewed live here in Utah
on KSL Channel 5. The Jacksons' follow-up comments were right on target.
I am always amazed at the naive belief that the media is going to report the
truth, or actually seek to be accurate and actually spend "equal" time
on real subject matter. I didn't see the program, but would tend to agree
with those who dislike the church and post here, by saying that LDS members
shouldn't complain too much, because it could have been worse. These
"news" programs almost always have an agenda, and they can edit and lend
more time to foolish and misleading information then facts, and it's just
the way it works. You will never get the complete REAL picture! In modern day
journalism, if the truth would have been reported, it would most likely have
been a complete accident! Now all the haters can go on about equal time for the
controversial history of the church, and I have no problem with them reporting
that, but to be fair and honest about it, that would have taken up 38 seconds of
a 1 hour program!
"Think Pres Hinckley would have complained?"Not at all. He
was very media savvy.However, I keep hearing that we should go to
the LDS Church to find out what they believe.Pres Hinkley had
several interviews which helped people to understand the beliefs.That said, he was fairly elusive on several questions, leaving people to look
elsewhere for answers.If you want to be the "go to" source,
your spokesmen will need to be more forthright and open.
All this complaining .... NBC did the LDS church good with this segment! They
were fair and balanced like journalism should be.What do you want
from them? To sell the church to it's viewers? It's journalism ...
they're going to cover good and bad. They did more good than bad .... it
left a favorable view of the church. Do you have ANY idea how bad
they could have made the church look? They could have dived into so so SO many
things. But they didn't.So lay off. They just helped your
precious Mormon candidate.
It was a fluff piece, start to finish; not to mention all the inaccuracies
(mormon's are forbidden to drink caffeine for one; 75% activity rate?
hardly).The piece was over the top positive. It made me think it
was a paid-for advertisement to enhance the Mittster's prospects.
I watched the program. It was a huge, sloppy kiss on the lips to the Mormon
faith.To complain that NBC didn't adequately genuflect before
the church office building just shows how spoiled you are.
It's your job to be a missionary. It's your job to invite the spirit
into other peoples' lives. NOT the TV's job. This is why
so many members of the church live on stagnant testimonies. They aren't
engaged. Become engaged. Think Pres Hinckley would have
complained?Get out and preach! Teach by example! Convert not just
I think Don Robertson makes a fair point, and I agree to some extent (more on
that to follow), but I also think that Joe Blow hit the nail on the head when he
posted, "Remember, it was only and hour long show." An hour probably
wasn't enough time to allow the breadth of reporting necessary to paint a
more comprehensive picture of the LDS church.I definitely agree that
Rock Center's protrayal of the Chuch was very positive and favorable
overall, and that they fairly and reasonably presented an outsider's look
inside. I guess I was just a little disappointed that (at least in my opinion)
it had kind of a "10 Things You Might Not Know About the LDS Church"
feel, rather than a "Readers' Digest Condensed Overview of the LDS
Church"; but since I wasn't the producer of that particular show, and
certainly wasn't footing the bill for it, I really can't complain.
The program was overwhelmingly positive. Stop complaining. It wasn't a
missionary program. They could have focused on a lot of negative things.
The Church is fortunate that the coverage was as benign as it was. They could
have focused a much more negative history and narrative than they did.Given today's nasty political climate, that was a pleasant surprise to
If you were expecting a piece that was going to bring more into the fold, I
think you set your expectations WAY to high. NBC is a third party not
interested in converting. So their outside perception of Mormons won't
ever be what you want. The outsiders will ask questions that make sense to
them, not you.
Sharon Angle of Nevada said "We wanted them to ask the questions
we want to answer, so that they report the news the way we want it
reported."It does not work that way, nor should it.The story YOU want told has already been done.LDS dot org has
that story. And it covers what they Want to be covered, how they want it
covered. It does not deal with any of the church's baggage, and that is
completely understandable (and, I believe that All churchs have baggage, not
just the LDS)But differing views give a more complete and accurate
picture.Remember, it was only and hour long show.The
show gave a very favorable impression of the LDS church.
I learned something new from the broadcast. I had no idea we had "Mormon
Royalty", and that Abby Huntsman was it! You'd think that
if you wanted to learn something about our temples that you'd choose to
interview someone who'd been in one.