Published: Tuesday, Aug. 28 2012 12:47 a.m. MDT
As a long time landlord I thought I'd heard it all, but Mitt's latest
excuse for not releasing his tax returns takes the cake. Everyone knows
Mitt's zillionaire status allows him to give millions to the LDS church,
and it's an admirable act of charity, but to play the religion card as a
reason to avoid revealing his "creative" tax returns strains credulity!
Have to agree Larry. The reasons given just dont pass the "smell test"
Does anyone actually believe that giving the government more money will actually
improve their lives? Giving the government more money is like giving an
alcoholic more booze to cure their addiction!
Unfortunately, the Romneys use tithing as a political tool. When it helps them,
they scream it from the rooftops, but when not, they want to hide it. What does
that tell you?
It doesn't tell me much of anything. I too keep my tithing a secret. I
pay mine directly to the church in SLC because I don't want people in my
ward to know how much I make. I recently was asked to talk in church on
financial issues, and I refused because I don't want people associating
that topic with me. I make a good amount of money because I do what I love to
do... not because I set out to be financially better than my neighbor. So while I am no where a "comfortable" as is Mitt, I understand
his logic here. Problem is, when you run for President of the United States,
you elect to give up your right to that sort of privacy. If is for that reason,
and about a million more, I would not put myself into a the position Mitt Romney
has. You sacrifice far too much to win the office of President. I
don't see how it is worth it.And I appreciate the further
clarification of Ann's comments - makes more sense.
Maybe mitt's holding back a bit...
Releasing tax returns in not a qualification to run for office.Just
like most of the things that liberals demand, their demand that Romney release
his tax returns is based on their hot air. If they think that he owes taxes,
then let them prosecute; otherwise, they show contempt for a citizen who HAS
PAID ALL TAXES OWED.They can't admit that Romeny is an honest
man. They want us to believe otherwise, but because they know he is honest,
they know that if they try to prove that he is dishonest, it will hurt their
candidate, so they just continue to insinuate.Cutting off Ann
Romney's comment totally reversed its meaning. That was just one more
deliberate attempt from the liberal media to change the meaning of something.
The media can't handle the truth, so they make up their own and then
pretend that they're innocent of wrong-doing. Is it possible that Dan
Rather is teaching "ethics" to the liberal media?
What is he hiding?
Mitt is very rich. He earned his money legally. He is entitled to spend it any
way he sees fit. He paid his taxes by following all the rules set forth in the
tax code.Too many people feel entitled to criticize rich people
because they buy nice things or decide that they may be able to make better use
of it than to give more of it to some government bureaucrat. They buy stuff at
WalMart made in China because they feel that is where they get the best value
for their dollar, but go wild when they hear rich people invest some of their
money overseas.I doesn't matter to me if Mitt uses HIS money to
buy a dozen houses or blows it all on luxury items. Like most rich people, he
may spend a small portion of his wealth on personal items, but the bulk of it
will be put to productive use building stuff.Give a dollar to the
Mormon church = bad. Give that dollar instead to Barney Frank = good. Only the
"Occupy Wall Street" crowd actually believes such actions will lift
people out of poverty.
"Releasing tax returns in not a qualification to run for office"Last I checked, neither was releasing birth certificates or school
records but that does not preclude people from asking. Do you
respond to those people the same way? Consistency is all I ask for.That said, people can choose to vote for or against a candidate for any
reasons that they choose.I believe that Romney is an honest man that
has paid all of the taxes that he legally owed.But then, I believe GE
probably paid all of their legally owed taxes.GE has used tax
loopholes to get out of paying taxes. While probably legal, that surely has
riled those on the right. I would like to see those loopholes closed. You?Why is this different? Partisanship perhaps?
His excuse would make sense if he hadn't released ANY tax returns, but
he's released one already. That showed a tithing amount didn't it?
What more "damage" could be done by releasing more returns? I suspect
tithing is the least of his worries.Maybe Julian Assange could
release the rest of Mitt Romney's tax returns...
I think it would be very interesting to find out how all the churches in the
U.S. disperse/use the money donated to them. Tax experts are now
seeing questionable, possibly illegal, ways Bain has structured its finances to
lessen its U.S. tax liability. While this probably wouldn't affect Mitt
financially because he is beyond the statute of limitations it would show the
extent he was willing to go to protect his wealth.The most important
issue is what policies Romney is proposing. He is proposing
"doubling-down" on Bush era policies which will further lessen taxes for
those at the top and increase taxes for those at the bottom. Several churches,
which see poverty as a moral issue, have come out against these proposals. The
LDS church is silent. re:MikeRichardsWe can't admit
Romney is an honest man because we see the many gyrations on issues and even
blatant lies about his opponent in his campaign ads and speeches.
Hmmmm. Maybe Obama is holding something back. What is HE hiding?
JoeBlow"Last I checked, neither was releasing birth certificates
or school records but that does not preclude people from asking."Asking to see someone's private birth certificate in order to hold public
office is wrong. You no more have the right to see Obama's birth
certificate as a citizen then you have to see Romney's taxes. It
doesn't matter if they are running for the office of President. It
isn't public information. If there's credible evidence that Obama
wasn't born in the U.S. or that Romney committed a crime related to his
taxes Congress is free to impeach and/or remove them from office, if elected,
and state or federal prosecutors are free to prosecute the private citizens who
hold that public office"Do you respond to those people the same
way? Consistency is all I ask for."Inappropriate question.
People have a right to pick and choose what they focus on and consider a
priority. I doubt very much that you are consistent in treating your family,
friends and neighbors consistently. "Why is this different?
Partisanship perhaps?"Accusations of partisanship are uncivil.
Please behave yourself civilly and others may
I thought it was pretty clear in the article that she was happy to give it.
Hence Mitt's joke of "crying, but for another reason". The problem is... both Mitt and Ann have been upfront and open about giving
10% to their church and plenty to charity. Both noted that if you add that to
their tax rates it goes well over 20%. It's readily available that
Mitt's charity has donated millions. So he can't possibly want to keep
charitable contributions hidden as an excuse for not wanting to disclose
taxes... unless there was something problematic for him in there like maybe a
dozen years ago when he was seeking out support from Planned Parenthood...maybe
he gave them a donation. Fact is Mitt is just using charitable
giving as an excuse to hide something else in his tax returns. This is just a
way to try and seem like the reason to not disclose more is modesty but
that's false since he and Ann have been perfectly willing to disclose their
charitable giving numbers.
Moderate,He has a right to pick and choose what private information
he wants to release to the public and those who have associated with candidates
for office should also be able to expect that their information will not be
released inadvertently as a result of someone they knew years earlier has now
decided to run for a public office. There could be names of actual individuals
in need that Romney has written checks to on his other tax returns. Do you think
the entire country should know that? I'm not saying there is. I am saying
he doesn't answer to you in regards to his personal finances. He's a
private citizen now, he will be one while in office, if elected, and will be one
after he leaves office."Maybe Julian Assange could release the
rest of Mitt Romney's tax returns..."Maybe someone should
hack Deseretnews.com, find out your real name and release all of your posts,
taxes and birth certificate and other personal documents. I have as much right
to Romney's taxes and Obama's birth certificate as I do those who
exercise the public office of voter which is none.
atl134,"Fact is Mitt is just using charitable giving as an
excuse to hide something else in his tax returns. This is just a way to try and
seem like the reason to not disclose more is modesty but that's false since
he and Ann have been perfectly willing to disclose their charitable giving
numbers."Tactics like those you are using here to intimidate and
coerce private citizens into releasing private information about themselves and
by extension those associated with them are extremely inappropriate. It
doesn't matter what the Romney's reasons are for picking and choosing
what they wishes to reveal to the public. They could have claimed something on
their taxes related to a family member's health conditions, be protecting
someone who needed their help and whose name is itemized or some other reason.
It's none of your business. They don't have to tell you they
don't want to tell you because one of their sons has a medical conditions
that they don't want the entire country of Paparazzi to know. We don't
live in a monarchy with royal families whose intimate and private lives are open
to the public.
Dwayne,You believe that my post was uncivil? Really? And it is because I believe that people do things for purely partisan
It is obvious what Mitt is hiding. He is hiding his pearls from the swine. He
his hiding ammunition from the gnat-squinting fault-finders who will do anything
to distract attention from Obama's failed presidency. He knows (as we all
do) that any new information, regardless of what it is, can and will be used
against him by his desperate opponents.Personally, I enjoy watching
Romney's enemies panic in their desperation to find fault in an obviously
good, honest and sincere human being. Every anti-Romney post I read merely
exposes unwarranted hate and prejudice. Romney could give a billion dollars to
starving children and they would find a way to twist it into something
dishonorable and unworthy of praise. Their criticism is hardly worth
@dwayne"Tactics like those you are using here to intimidate and coerce
private citizens into releasing private information about themselves"This is a comment forum on a newspapers' website. My comments have
0 influence on Romney campaign decisions and I have the option, per the rules of
this moderated comment forum, of criticizing what I think is an unlikely excuse
being used to try and justify refusing to release more tax returns. It would
seem you're interesting in coercing silence, however."It
doesn't matter what the Romney's reasons are for picking and choosing
what they wishes to reveal to the public"It just does not make
political sense to have "unwillingness to disclose charitable giving" be
a reason not to release more tax returns when it's openly clear they donate
large sums to their church and they openly state as much themselves that they
give plenty to their church and other charities. Heck, it'd be a positive
to disclose that and his advisors would be pushing for him to release his
returns if that was all he was worried about... but it's not. It can't
be. It makes no sense.
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