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Published: Thursday, Aug. 23 2012 8:56 p.m. MDT

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54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

How's BYU responsible for the demise of the WAC? I thought they were still in that conference.

LOL

AlaskaCougar
Wasilla, AK

The BCS killed the WAC. The evidence was BYU and Utah leaving, but it was the greed and inequity of the college football system that was the source of the demise.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

If college football had had a true National Championship Playoff, with all the conferences getting one seat at the table, then the WAC would have likely survived. There would not have been the rush to get in with the "Big Boys" before the doors closed.

The BCS conferences knew that by cherry picking the very best of their lesser brethren, they would squash true financial equality between the leagues and still get to keep the biggest piece of the financial pie for themselves.

I can't really blame either Utah or BYU for jumping ship and getting into a life boat before the SS WAC/Mtn. West sank into the ocean.

Do Utah and BYU share some of the blame? Yes, but they didn't devise the system, they just knew when it was time to either join it or get left out.

The REAL reason for the demise of college football, as we have known it, was GREED.

NeilT
Clearfield, UT

The WAC and the other non BCS conference schools should have pursued legal action against the BCS
I hate to see the WAC go. The WAC should have never pursued the 16 team format. Schools like Rice just never fit in. Let's hope the MWC survives. I agree with the other posters.

3grandslams
Iowa City, IA

BYU and Utah left the WAC because it was a 16 team conference required to share the wealth. Too many schools were making bank of the success of other programs. Who wouldn't leave?

Plus the WAC would be still a strong conference today if Nevada and Fresno St. hadn't sold out BYU when the Cougs had agreed to join the WAC again in all other sports but football.

I don't understand why Rock chose this angle? I would be looking at failed system of sustaining a conference rather than teams reacting to bad decisions.

yarrlydarb
Ogden, UT

College sports little by little started a slippery slope toward becoming and now is completely dominated by the haves over the have-nots.

They're now big business and will continue to grow until sports will cease to exist as they once were as all schools will place money as the raison d'etre.

Utah and BYU did not slay the WAC, but greed, the very love of money, will eventually decimate athletic competition altogether.

TheNun
Granstville, UT

"Utah and BYU responsible for the WAC's demise", hold on a minute Rock Monster. The Utes may have turned their backs to the WAC, but BYU won the WAC championship last year, and many expect them to do the same again this year.

Clearly, the Y is trying to keep the WAC from folding.

bandersen
Saint George, UT

Brad, you failed to mention the first sucker punch that BYU and UTAH threw, not allowing UTAH STATE into the WAC in the 60's! At the time, USU was(hard to believe, I know)far and away the best football program in the state, something that BYU and UTAH did not like and were not about to make USU stronger by adding them to the conference! No one was even close! It would have made the conference stronger and made the rivalries between those schools amazing! The result of not allowing them into the WAC eventually pushed USU into secondary status as a football program, from which they have never fully recovered!

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

54-10
who is utah playing next week?
another sterling opening game for whitt

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

@bandersen:
USU was better than byu in the 60s. It wasn't better than Utah.
It was byu's president who opposed adding USU to the WAC and Utah went along with it.
If the WAC never expanded to 16 teams, Utah & byu wouldn't have left.

9er4life
Provo, UT

The demise of the WAC will hurt byu who is already struggling to schedule teams. We already know their November schedule is the WAC. I just think they should rejoin the WAC just to make things easier for them.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

9er4life

The demise of the WAC won't affect BYU's scheduling at all - BYU's scheduling agreement with the WAC ended with the 2012 season.

BYU Deek
Spanish Fork, UT

Everyone is forgetting that it was Craig Thompson that killed the WAC. BYU and Utah had nothing to do with it. Had Craigo not gone behind BYU's and the WAC's back and slyfully added Fresno St and Nevada when BYU was working their deal with the WAC and Independence, then the WAC would still be a solid conference, with game agreements with BYU. The MWC would be struggling instead, and this article would be titled "Did BYU and Utah kill the MWC?"

Madden
Herriman, UT

Didn't BYU and Utah used to have better running mates in their conference, i.e. Arizona and Arizona State? Those two left for greener pastures, helping create a WAC conference with a lack of balance. BYU and Utah carried much of the conference load then (and again in the MWC, along with TCU when they came along) - eventually you knew it would have to end. No reason to throw blame around - college football has not been ruined by conference changes, at least not yet. It is alive and well.

Z
South Jordan, UT

BYU and Utah did not kill the WAC, the WAC killed itself. The 16 team, 4 division format never worked and was a bad idea from the start. It was a knee-jerk reaction to the breakup of the Southwest conference, and resulted in an expensive, unworkable setup. Ultimately, with no major TV contracts or bowl tie-ins, the conference was more expensive to run than it was worth, and the expanded conference died a natural death.

And if the MWC hadn't picked up Boise State, someone else would have. In the last two years conference realignment has been a fact of life, and conferences have been cherry picking each other for a while now. Where do you really place the blame when the dominos start to fall?

Kiboo
South Jordan, Utah

Earnest T Bass - you are wrong again. The proximity of Utah, BYU and USU killed USU more than anything. Utah and BYU have always been connected at the hip (until Utah bailed a few months ago). When the WAC was formed Wilkinson was looking out for the best intersts of BYU just as the administration at the U of U was looking out for their best interests. USU was simply the odd man out. The WAC couldn't justify 3 teams within a 100 mile radius given the limited population in Utah at that time.

As has been pointed out by many, the real culprit of the demise of the WAC is greed. The same greed that lead Utah to sever its ties with BYU.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

So are you saying you wish Utah and BYU were still in the old WAC?? What a dumb article...

Johnny Triumph
American Fork, UT

16 team WAC started the death, not long after BYU, Utah, and the rest decided to start the MWC. But let's not forget the good that the WAC did for the state of Utah, prior there were only odd conference affiliations.

DEW Cougars
Sandy, UT

Okay. lets see here

1. Karl Benson is a good guy and Craig Thompson is a bad guy
2. Karl Benson made a mistake by adding some 8 more teams to WAC.
3. BYU and Utah would join the bcs league and Utah took the bait to pac league and BYU want better exposers.
4. Oh yeah, the mtn was a joke including Craig Thompson.
5. Very nice to Karl to let Utah State to join the MWC.

Don't know what to say Karl, thanks for the memory.

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

The whole premise of the "WAC" dying is silly. It completely ignores the fact that the WAC that BYU and Utah helped create in 1962 no longer existed after the MWC was created. Of the six founding members of the WAC - BYU, Utah, Arizona, ASU, Wyoming, and New Mexico - not a single member remained after the MWC was created, and UTEP, which joined with CSU in 1967, left the conference in 2005.

The WAC of the late 70's and through early 90's became the MWC, which still lives on, minus BYU and Utah.

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