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A look at volunteer LDS leaders

Published: Thursday, Aug. 23 2012 4:21 p.m. MDT

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Hutterite
American Fork, UT

He was a community organizer?

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I'm not LDS but I have neighbors who are, including one who was a Mormon Bishop. For the five years he held that office, he kind of dropped out of sight because he was always busy with the congregation. When he was released I asked if he was going to get a promotion to another leadership position. He smiled and said after five years of being Bishop his greatest aspiration was to be "Hymn Book Coordinator".

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Romney the "quintessential Mormon stake president?"

What happened?

Now he is the "quintessential" slippery politician!

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Romney the "quintessential Mormon stake president?"

What happened?

Now he is the "quintessential" slippery politician!

juni4ling
Somewhere in Colorado, CO

Truthseeker felt the post was so important it needed to be posted *twice.*

The truth... Multi-millionaire Romney donates significant amounts (towards 30%) of his money to "charity."

On the other hand, multi-millionaire Obama donates 1% of his money to "charity."

I am going to vote for the leader who has a *personal* commitment to the poor.

Obama might *talk* about caring about the poor. Romney does more than just talk.

Romney, former LDS Bishop and LDS Stake President has my vote. I should post that *three* times...

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

juni4ling - anyone who can operate google can quickly show you how your "1%" number isn't true.... no why post a fabrication, a one year event, as though it is indicative of what really has happened. No, Obama hasn't give the "30%" claimed above, but we have no proof that Romney has either... not a single shred of it.... because he keeps this to himself.

Now this is fine, it is his choice, and people can infer from what they will, just like those who inferred much about Obama's nationality because he didn't immediately produce a birth certificate.

But what I object to... and is why I post here.... is I completely object to people knowing printing misleading and sometimes out and out falsehoods in an attempt to prove their candidate is more spiritual than the other. There is no proof to any of the statements made, and a good deal of proof the the contrary..... so distorting the truth to prove a higher spiritual ground just rings .... I don't know..... crazy. Have we fallen so far that we have to make stuff up or repeat false statements?

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Just to clear the noise up.... for 2009... here is what was reported.

"Obama, Biden report charitable donations
President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle paid nearly $1.8 million in federal taxes on adjusted gross income of over $5.5 million in 2009, and gave $329,100 to charity, while Vice President Joe Biden and his wife paid over $71,000 in taxes on adjusted gross income of over $333,000, and gave $4,820 to charity, The New York Times reported April 15 (see Obama tax return story). Obama did not have to report $1.4 million he won for receiving the Nobel Peace Prize because he asked the Nobel Committee to give it directly to charity."

That is a wee bit more than 1% by anyones math.

Now to the subject of Romney - I am sure he was a fine Stake President, maybe even a "quintessential" one. But his politics didn't have anything to do with it. I have a friend who is currently a quintessential stake president now, is a democrat, and will be representing the church in an official capacity at the Democratic Convention.... all politics aside.

Enough divisiveness already.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

re:juni4ling

Actually, the first time I tried posting, on my computer the page didn't seem to load up, so I tried it again.

I don't know where you're getting your figures. Source?

"Obama gave $245,075, or 14.2% of his $1.7 million in income to charity in 2010. After winning the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, the president requested his $1.4 million in winnings to be donated to various charities, a gift that was not reported as income on his tax returns.

From that prize, the president gave $250,000 to Fisher House, $200,000 to the Clinton-Bush Haiti fund, $125,000 to the United Negro College Fund, $125,000 to the Appalachian Leadership and Education Foundation, among others.

In recent years, Obama has spread his donations around, giving to groups as diverse as the American Red Cross, the University of Hawaii foundation, the National AIDS Fund and the Greater New Orleans Foundation.

Romney donated almost $3 million, or 13.8% of his income to charity. In 2010 Romney gave $1.5 million in cash contributions to the church.
(CNN Money)

xscribe
Colorado Springs, CO

@Juni4ling: Just because you post it doesn't make it true, as others have so easily pointed out. And how do you know all of Romney's money to charity were for the poor? There are many charities out there.

ute alumni
Tengoku, UT

truthseeker.......
keep seeking. you might get it someday

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"He was a community organizer?"

I suppose you can say that, but he certainly did much more than that. Did Obama ever become successful in business?

t702
Las Vegas, NV

Since Liberals always know the answers, any democrat care to explain why Liberals become millionaire only after being in the White House? i.e. Clinton & Obama, also Prince Harry too. GOP on the other hand make themselves successful before the White House.

While talking about charitable giving, Biden in 2011 donated $300 to charity, here's a six figure income liberal gives less than 1% to charity really? And for Obama's charitable giving in '09, how much did he give to charity prior to '08? I bet it's less than Biden's 2011

Lasvegaspam
Henderson, NV

t702: Happy to be of assistance. The Obamas’ returns show that the couple made very few charitable contributions, sometimes less than 1 percent of taxable income, until Mr. Obama began his run for the White House. In 2004, before Mr. Obama entered the Senate, he and his wife gave $2,500 to charity, 1.2 percent of their taxable income. The next year, the donations jumped to $77,315, or nearly 5 percent of their taxable income. Their charitable giving only went up when it looked like he was campaigning for the presidential office. (from a NY Times article dated March 26, 2008 by Leslie Wayne)

In addition, it is crystal clear that the Obamas’ choice in 2011 to donate much, much more to charity than ever before was due to the possibility that Barack might end up running against Mitt Romney; a man known to be not only a full tithe-payer, but also an extremely generous giver.

Esquire
Springville, UT

The daily adulation of Romney in multiple articles each day that I am seeing in this paper is quite unseemly. Your integrity as a legitimate news source has to be in question.

Dennis
Harwich, MA

Romney and his "Corporation" bought companies, fired hundreds of people that had tenure and had earned their place in life, replaced them with cheap help, showed a profit on paper and sold the companies. Ruining the lives of hundreds of qualified, good people. I had a family member that was a part of this. Laid off after 21 years of service on a conference call along with 327 other people. This isn't my idea of a man that can be trusted with my confidence or support. He seems to always have been much more interested in financial gain that taking care of the people he's given charge to.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

Riverton Coiugar - my grandfather never became super successful (in Romney terms), and yet he was found to qualified to lead the church for many years....and during a good part of its growth. I am not sure "successful in business" is a requirement. What business did Reagan run? FDR? Lincoln was a failure at business. Washington married into his money.... when did being a king of capitalism become a requirement to be president?

Rifleman
Salt Lake City, Utah

Re: xscribe Colorado Springs, CO
"And how do you know all of Romney's money to charity were for the poor?"

Do we really want to question a man's contributions to charity when he selflessly served the members first of his ward and then of his stake for 13-years without financial reimbursement? A better question might be how many people did he help lift up during that service?

cindyb
CASPER, WY

Thanks for this informative article that I could share with people unfamiliar with the organization of our church. As a convert I am so impressed with the quiet way leaders are chosen. This is not how I have seen it happen in some other denominations. There is no jockeying, no infighting among committees who chose their next clergy. No nationwide searches for a person who doesn't turn out so good anyway. It is purely the Lord chosing from among his faithful, right there in a local congregation. It is beautiful.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Xscribe is right.

Tithing, the bulk of Mitt's charitable contributions, don't go to help the poor.

It is probably the same with most other denominations.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

You know what is interesting is that the President and his First Lady wife make it sound as if they are poor people just wanting to get by in this life taking their lavish vacations at the public's very common taste at $200 million a day in India, etc. They are just common folk and don't even have a concept of how much time and effort for years go into donating time, energy, support, money and other kinds of donations to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It is not just sitting on a bench at church. The sacrifice is great. Utah was fortunate to have this lay Church leader volunteer his time and talents to the Olympic Winter Games in 2002 to help make it very successfull and with tens of thousands of volunteers, many having lived in countries of many of the athletes and visitors. Many of these volunteers, like Mitt Romney learned their foreign language prior to and on their missions for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. What a blessing the Church and members bring into the lives of others who are seeking for a better good life.

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