Duckhunter:Looks like StGtoSLC beat me to it, but there you go:
Whittingham has 66-wins to his credit. How embarrassing for you, but I
guess that's what you get when you go about frantically and emotionally
making stuff up.
"Nowhere at all credits whittingham with the fiesta bowl win, not even
utah's own site."From Utah Athletics:" Kyle
YearAlma Mater:Brigham Young (1984)Year at Utah: 8thCareer Record: 66-25 Bowl Record: 7-1**Includes 2005 Fiesta
Bowl""You are the only one, so frantic and so desperate that
you are trying to make stuff up like that.LOL!"
Uh...navalNowhere at all credits whittingham with the fiesta bowl
win, not even utah's own site. You are the only one, so frantic and so
desperate that you are trying to make stuff up like that.LOL!
Duckhunter:"FALSE!...It is 65-25...Even with the math they teach
at the u that is still only 65 wins and 25 losses...LOL!"Yes,
Math at the U IS more advanced than that dubiously WACey "brand" they
teach down there in Utah County. In Dec. 2004, Utah hired Kyle Whittingham to
replace Urban Meyer as the Utes' Head Coach; not Head Coach in Waiting.
Thus, the January 2005 Fiesta Bowl game is credited to Whittingham. Ergo, Kyle
is 66-25. Case closed.But congratulations to Bronco for beating up
all those 1-AA/FCS teams in order for him to get up to those 66-wins. He really
showed them who's boss."LOL"
@naval vet"whittingham's win/loss record is 66-25."FALSE!It is 65-252005 - 7-52006 - 8-52007 - 9-42008 - 13-02009 - 10-32010 - 10-32011 -
8-5Even with the math they teach at the u that is still only 65 wins
and 25 losses.LOL!
SportsFan and Duckhunter:Whittingham's W/L record is 66-25.
That means that Bronco does NOT have "more wins" than Kyle. However,
Bronco DOES have more wins vs. FCS opponents (not that Kyle had ever lost to
one), and more wins vs. the weakest teams in the WAC.Kyle has more
wins vs. BCS opponents, more wins vs. ranked opponents, more wins in the
postseason, and more wins vs. Bronco.Edge: Kyle Whittingham
Haha! I have to "LOL" at worf regarding his first post of the day:"You are a great WAC team like Wyoming, and that is all you will
ever be."Last I checked, it's been the "Band of
'54-10' Quitters" who have been playing great football in the WAC,
and look to do so again THIS season.Too bad for our little brother
that the WAC folds after this season. They might have to start poking around
C-USA. And UCF and Tulsa seemed to give them all they could handle. C-USA is
pretty big step up from the WAC in level of competition. Oh well.
Maybe they can get still get some games from "independent" (i.e. nobody
wants them either) Idaho and NM State.
DnquixoteLas Vegas, NV,You don't get it, do you? I used
the words of a ute fan in my post. I changed ute to cougs, and cougs to utes,
with a few small changes. I come here to see if those same ute fans post here.
The venom stings both ways. Ute fans are constantly posting trash on
cougar articles, and it will become more frequent.
I'm looking forward to seeing Wilson on the field this year. I hope it
will be in 4th quarter mop up duty rather than in a starting role, but I like
his attitude and competitive spirit.@sportsfan Just keep
holding your breath for byu's next "breakout year" - I'm sure
this is the year right? After all, we all know byu is the perennial preseason
national champions. I think they may even have a tee shirt that states as such.
The last breakout year was 1984 so I'm sure they have turned the corner by
now.If ten wins is all that it takes to make you happy, by all means
keep filling the schedule with Idaho, Idaho State and New Mexico State etc.
That record is something to hold onto for sure. It was so impressive it got
ranked 25th in 1 out of 4 national polls. Keep making Utah county proud.As for the Utes, the future is very bright and I can't wait for the
season to begin and for hopefully all of the talk to end.Go Utes!
I will never understand the purpose of BYU fans randomly citing age-old stats to
prove they are better than Utah.? If you want to prove you are better than
Utah, beat us, or make an argument for how you will beat us. Don't tell me
about when your grandpa beat us. Worf - Why are you on here day
after day, providing unsolicited information? Let Utah fans be Utah fans. Go
support BYU, don't spend your time attacking Utah. Travis
Wilson looks like he could be a great QB, or at least a really good QB. I hope
we don't have to find out for another year or two. Here is to Wynn's
Provo, Ute Fan"Having 10 win seasons by playing Wac teams week
in and week out is not hard."Then why did Utah only have ONE
10-win season in their entire 37 years in the WAC?Obvious answer -
because U can't even beat 10-LOSS teams!BYU has had as many
10-win seasons since 2001, as Utah has had in its ENTIRE HISTORY!Some programs just make 10-win seasons look so easy, that other, less
accomplished programs, assume that it must be.
Having 10 win seasons by playing Wac teams week in and week out is not hard. If
BYU fans think they have had more success then Utah, something must be in their
punch. Even my friends that play for BYU understand that Utah is better off and
proven to be more successful.
The mind of Chris B, has has caused contention on both sides.In all
honesty, both teams are equal. Look at the record. But Utah has:*
made coaches of cougar players.* copied the cougar playbook*
followed the cougars with recruiting Polys.* helped by BYU television
revenue during its days in the WAC, and MWC.An apology from Jenny83
"Mendenhall with more overall wins than whittingham." So the
troll doesn't have the smallest modicum of respect for the man that he
can't even capitalize Coach Whittingham's name. Pretty pathetic
for an alleged adult who claims to be involved with kids and in community
affairs. I'm truly grateful you don't interact with my kids in any
way. Just have to wonder if those parents in Highland know how small you really
Ute fans PLEASE stop replying to BYU trolls. We've move on the bigger and
better things....they're just trying to get attention from the kids table.
BYU is no longer in our league literally or figuratively.
Like I said before Wilson is the future. I would like to see him start against
NC. @worfBYU can't even contend for a BCS berth
let alone a national title.Utah might not have athletes to compete
for a national title but they have more athletes than BYU according to the NFL
Sounds Utah is getting ready to throw Travis to the wolves. At least the Utes
have an experienced OC to help take some of the pressure off.
Wilson will get plenty of playing time. History proves Jordan Wynn will get
knocked out early.
Andy"Utah, on the other hand, is disciplined to focus on winning
rather than talking."You mean, like the entire week before the
Utes were DESTROYED by TCU 7-47?However, you are correct about the
need for Utah fans keeping mum about championships. Until the Utes master the
art of beating the 10-loss teams and conference bottom-dwellers on their
schedule, it would be wise for the Utes to avoid any talk of championships of
any kind, be they conference or national.
The Utes success lie in the future, not necessarily this year. One would hope
that they have a short fuse with Wynn and look for playing time for Wilson. We have seen what Wynn and Hayes can do and it's not a pretty sight
against PAC 12 talent.
@utah "fans"You fail to realize that Worf's post is an
almost word for word copy of one your very own christina b posted on a BYU
article. Worf just took it and changed it slightly for your benefit. If you
think it is ridiculous then you are really criticizing one of your own. LOL!
Nicely done Worf!@go utesActually Lone Star Runner is
wrong about the overall records of Mendenhall and whittingham. It is Mendenhall
with more overall wins than whittingham. Glad to see you just assumed the
opposite was true. It's not. LOL!
goutes"Isn't it funny that despite all of BYU's
accolades mentioned above you still decide to end it all by stating that Utah
has one more win in this era than BYU does?"What's even
more funny is LonestarRunner misspoke.The actual record isBronco 66-24Kyle 65-25--------WallbangerYou left out a couple of stats - let me help you out:LOSSES
to 10-loss TeamsBronco - ZEROKyle - TWOSHUTOUTS to
10-loss TeamsBronco - ZEROKyle - ONELOSSES to conference
bottom dwellers - CSU, Wyoming, New Mexico, UNLV, ColoradoBronco - ZEROKyle - SIX Sorry to disappoint you little brother, but Utah will
NEVER out recruit USC, and Kyle's propensity for losing to conference
bottom dwellers will keep the Utes from ever winning a conference
championship.With a playoff starting in 2014, BYU doesn't need
to be associated with a power conference in order to be a contender for a
national championship. The Cougars have enough quality teams on their schedule
that they're well positioned to be a serious contender when their next
breakthrough year comes.
At Jenny3Jenny, your rant is just that, a rant. Alabama (2008) on
paper was and is far superior to Utah. I do not mock Utah's win over
Alabama though. Utah had a superior game plan and shell shocked the Tide in the
first quarter particularly but to infer that Alabama was that much superior to
Oklahoma is ridiculous at best. Remember, BYU took out the #1 QB in the country
which completely altered the fortunes of Oklahoma. Utah's Sugar
Bowl win will forever be a glowing historical achievement and it should be but
to compare Utah's wins and BYU's wins is all conjecture. It's
like comparing BYU's 70-31 win over Utah and Utah's 54-10 win last
year. A win is a win and should be enjoyed but to gloat in the face of your
opponent will get you a personal foul and will come back to you as humiliation
like the loss to Colorado which diminished the BYU win.
Worf is funny. Like many TDS players and fans their conversation each preseason
is about a NC. Utah, on the other hand, is disciplined to focus on
winning rather than talking. This is more my style.GO UTES!!
Hey worf, Minnesota also has an undefeated season and a national championship on
their resume. Would you call them a national title contender? Accomplishments
in the previous century are nice but don't mean a think in 2012.From what I have heard, there are no plans to redshirt Wilson this year and I
suspect he will get some playing time. Hopefully it is time in games where the
outcome has already been decided and Wynn can make it through the season. We
Jenny3 and MidMajorYou took the bait completely, Worf's comment
is, just as he said in his opening line an edited version of a post by a BYU
hater a few days earlier. All he did was turn the tables and poke fun at u. That
it was at your expense is the best part.LOL at silly girls and silly
boys! As an occasionally jealous but ardent BYU fan, I like this
Travis Wilson kid and believe he will be a star at Utah, I agree with PAC12 and
Spokane Ute, I wish Wynn well but I don't hold out much hope he will
survive the season.
Lonestar You forgot to mention...BYU top five finishes,
ZEROBYU NFL drafts last two seasons, ZEROBYU BCS game victories,
ZEROBYU invites to an elite conference, ZEROBYU corny T-shirt
slogans, endless Sorry to disappoint you little brother, but Utah
will only continue to out recruit and play the Y from here on out. If Utah wins
come Sept 15th (very likely) then you guys will disappear for only a couple
weeks. Then reappear on here posing as Washington or USC fans. You guys are
LonestarRunner:Isn't it funny that despite all of BYU's
accolades mentioned above you still decide to end it all by stating that Utah
has one more win in this era than BYU does? and lets not forget that Kyle and
the Utes have the rivalry edge as well. sooooooooo....GO UTES!
Jenny83Sorry, but the skewed record from the Crowton era is
meaningless. BYU and Utah both have new coaches, who have been in place for 7
years. During the Bronco/Kyle era:BYU has been ranked in the Top 25
FIVE times; the Utes only three.BYU has THREE Top 15 finishes, Utah
only ONE.BYU has FIVE 10+ win seasons, Utah only three.BYU has TWO conference championships, Utah only ONE.Overall,BYU 65-25Utah 66-24Sorry to disappointment you little
sister, but Utah is once again lagging behind.No worries; the Utes
are so deep and talented, and Brian Johnson is such an amazing Offensive
Coordinator, that the Utes don't even need a QB to beat Northern Colorado.
After that, well...
Im not so sure the Utes wont be better off with Wilson. Wynn has trouble staying
healthy. I'm glad it's a positiion Utah is fairly deep at.
Interesting to see the 'media grooming' of a new Ute QB when the
'old' one just has a 'sore arm'.More stories
like these will whip up a full case of 'panic mode' in a heart
beat!It's going to get fun this week.
The best part about Travis is his desire to continue to improve. Having to play
against Utah's defense each day will only make him better. Travis will get
playing time this year. Look for Travis to get significant playing time this
Wilson is a stud! He has the skills and attitude to be a very successful
quarterback.worf, your comments are laced with jealousy. I'm
truly sorry your team wasn't invited to the PAC-12 so the rivalry could
continue. Your comments were entertaining and humorous, I hope that was your
intent.I'm sure you know that Utah does have the
"athletes" to contend for a national title. In fact, Utah currently has
30 players on NFL rosters, byu has 14. I'm not saying Utah will contend for
a national title this year but the Utes have finished in the top 5 with two
undefeated seasons in the last decade. Has byu? Has bronco, as a head coach,
ever had one of his recruits drafted by an NFL team? No. Yet you mention him
with Saban, Spurrier and Stoops?FYI, byu did not play "Oklahoma
along the way" to their *National Championship*. Did you mean Tulsa? byu
didn't play a single team that finished in the Top-25 during 1984 and beat
the 7th place BIG-10 team in a pre-Christmas, lower tier bowl game.Good luck Travis Wilson! Go Utes!
Worf, Beating the likes of "Oklahoma along the way" You beat them by 1
point and Oklahoma lost 5 games that year. The Utes won the Sugar Bowl to a
much, much, more superior Alabama team (superior to Oklahoma)...And as far as
our athletes are concerned..the Utes way outshine the Cougs...Alex Smith was the
#1 overall pick after his senior season...star Lotulelie of the Utes is
projected to be taken 1st or 2nd overall in next years NFL draft.....John White
was ranked the 9th best running back in college football last year..and etc.
Worf -- The Utes have been undefeated twice in the last 8 years how about
BYU...Also, for some reason your team can't beat Utah...Only 30% of the
time in the last 10 years.
Edited from a Ute fan trying to cause contention:Quarterback is the
toughest position to recruit at Utah"Interesting. I've said
similar things and I get criticized when I do.Utah does not have the
"athletes" needed to be a true national title contender like BYU,
Alabama, Texas, Boise State, and USC. Why do I include BYU? By virtue of having
an undefeated season and National Championship. BEATING the likes of Oklahoma
along the way - we've proven we have the athletes and coaching staff to be
the best in the nation.We know what when you have a football team,
winning games is #1.This is another reason Utah is not and will
never be a true national title contender.When was the last time you
heard someone like Saban, Mendenhall, Stoops, or Spurrier say winning football
games doesn't need national television coverage? NeverI applaud
Utah for sticking to what they believe in.but Utah fans need to wake
up and smell reality - your program is incompatible with being a true national
power. So stop acting like you are.You are a great WAC team like
Wyoming, and that is all you will ever be.