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Published: Thursday, Aug. 16 2012 6:27 p.m. MDT

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Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Pretty much every year we get the best recruiting classes ever so that's why we keep getting better in Provo and sending players to the NFL all the time.

J W
springville, UT

@truecoug1

Not to mention that Jordan Wynn has injured his throwing arm and today is his second day not practicing. Back to the drawing board for the Utes.

Juice Box
Eureka, UT

Truecougie,

Want a tissue? Your team is IRRELEVANT! I don't blame you for having a tantrum right now, I would too if I were you.

Elmer Fudd
Sandy, Utah

@ J W

"Not to mention that Jordan Wynn has injured his throwing arm and today is his second day not practicing. Back to the drawing board for the Utes".

You forgot to mention that Jordan Wynn is 2-0 against BYU with his injured shoulder. LOL

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@truecoug1

So I guess you're saying U expect BYU to just give U the ball 4 times like they did last year? And to turn it over 7 times in all?

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No. I expect them to quit just like they did last year by middle of the 3rd quarter.

I expect Utah defense to destroy BYU's running game like last year (22 carries for 11 yards).

Thus forcing Riley to throw, I expect Riley to be as good as he has been against good defenses.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Wow - lots of words but nothing of substance said by Tom other than the BIG 12 and BYU is a dead issue. Interestingly enough the ONLY thing long time Y fans really care about is getting BYU into the BIG 12 and that is a dead issue? I guess fans can feel good about the fact that the players love each other ... after they get pounded by Boise , the U and ND. This article basically says one thing very loudly - BYU is mediocre and fans better get used to it for the foreseeable future!! Yuk! I kind of had to swallow hard after Tom said that little Riley Nelson is expected to be "fantastic". Geez - tone it down Tom - when you start calling Nelson fantastic I have to roll my eyes at just about everything else you said.

Wallbanger
Spanish Fork, UT

25 plus comments and no Duckhunter or sammyg?? Oh that's right, they're camping out on the Ute boards spewing they're hatred and obsession...my bad.

On the rarity I do post on a BYU thread, let me say good luck to all Utah schools. I think if BYU wants to move to the next level, they need to get rid of Holmoe and Mendenhall. And this is what most BYU fans I live by and work with think as well. The biggest Y fan I know and work with didn't renew season tickets this year for the first time in 15 years due to his and many others frustrations. 2013 schedule for BYU looks solid, but with the Y rebuilding in many key positions, it could be a six or seven loss next season.

80 plus percent of my co-workers and neighbors are Y fans to some extent, and we have these discussions all the time. And these ARE the fans that tell me these things, not just my opinion. Best of luck to you cougs, except on Sept 15th.

Mount Olympus
Salt Lake, UT

truecoug1 : U lost to 4 teams who finished last year with a combined 23-29 record by 65 points.

BYU lost to Utah by 44 points. It is funny that you say some of Utah's points came after BYU quit. Tough teams don't quit.

Utah's defense is bigger, stronger, and faster this year.
The game is at Rice-Eccles.
Why should we expect a different result this year?
When BYU get's down 20 points are they going to quit?
Why should we expect a different result this year?

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@truecoug1

U had two legitimate TD drives on our defense last year...at the end of the 1st half, and the beginning of the 2nd half (and both drives were extended because of a couple of PI calls on the defense on 3rd and long).

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I just looked at the two scoring drives, there were no such penalties on BYU.

The only penalty was on "3rd and short" on BYU during the 2nd drive:

3rd and 3 at UTAH 32BYU penalty 6 yard Pass Interference on Preston Hadley accepted, no play.

The biggest reason was big plays by Utah players:

Jordan Wynn pass complete to Jake Murphy for 30 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 13 10

Jordan Wynn pass complete to Dres Anderson for 59 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 20 10

The current talent on BYU's offense has averaged 13 points against Utah's defense, at 21-10 with a 3-2 TO margin the game was over. Which is why BYU quit shortly after.

JmThms
Henderson, NV

Chris B:

You forgot to mention: Utah also has the inferiority complex. That drives all of the anti BYU sentiment.

souptwins
Lindon, UT

It's always fascinating to me that I can read an article about BYU and hope to see some interesting football discussion in the comments but only find arrogant U fans filling the place up with hot air. I just read the Utah article on the Trib. site about Wynn's shoulder and all the comments were actually pertinent to the article and nearly all from Utah fans. Can you say "obsessed"? Some of you people need to seek therapy.

sammyg
Springville, UT

Wallbanger

Yep, several of us are certainly having our fun with the glorious PAC 12 Network and it's national MIA status. But again, how you confuse our fun and sarcasm at U're expense for hatred is beyond me. It's all the plain and simple truth.

I personally think Mr. Holmoe and Coach Mendenhall are great men. I like football independence, schedule is improving and our sports programs, that includes ALL of them, is overall better than the U. That's a compelling difference to a college that has mediocre football and quality gymnastics.

In your discussions with your 80% LDS neighbors and coworkers what did they have to say about the recent flap with Blechen's suspension, legalizing marijuana and such?

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

@ souptwins

"It's always fascinating to me that I can read an article about BYU and hope to see some interesting football discussion in the comments but only find arrogant U fans filling the place up with hot air. I just read the Utah article on the Trib. site about Wynn's shoulder and all the comments were actually pertinent to the article and nearly all from Utah fans. Can you say "obsessed"? Some of you people need to seek therapy".

Same can be said about arrogant BYU fans on Utah articles. I'm tired of all these double standards! Nothing is going to change Y fans trolling U articles and U fans trolling Y articles. So don't bother writing comments that pin points just U fans when Y fans do the same.

Wallbanger
Spanish Fork, UT

Sammy

What does legalizing marijuana and Blechen have to do with seven or eight posts out of thirty five or so on a Utah board from you and your twin brother ducky? And none to one on a BYU board? Now you're just trying to be negative. My point is, you guys post way more on the Utah boards than your own, and yet you claim we're obsessed and you're not. You and duckboy want Utah to fail in everything in the PAC 12, network and all. I know some U fans were "pounding their chests" about the PAC 12 network. But you guys did as well, if not more about the ESPN deal.

Let me be the better guy and say, I wish your Cougars the best of luck (except Sept 15th) in all your future en-devours. The trolling will always go both ways with this rivalry, but some "fans" have way too much time on their hands on theses boards. So excited for football to start for the Y, USU and the Utes. Two weeks to go...GO UTES!!

sammyg
Springville, UT

Wallbanger

Obviously the DNews won't allow me to post direct quotes of your previous comments and views about the Blechen story, etc. But let's see if they allow me to comment about you and your BYU neighbors negativity discussions about Tom Holmoe and Bronco Mendenhall.

I don't believe for a minute that 80% of your Y fan neighbors and coworkers are to the point of throwing both of these men under the bus. Please remember that's what Utah does to its basketball coaches.

I could care less what you think about Tom Holmoe. I would say what he has accomplished thus far with independence is visionary. It far surpasses what most other schools could pull off but that's a little unfair comparing BYU to secular schools.

There is no doubt that there are various camps of BYU fans, those that want conference affiliation, those that are satisfied with independence, those that don't care one way or another, those that tolerate Ute fans, etc.

But I do believe you being on this BYU story first and personally taunting Ducky and I is hilarious.

ConferenceofChampions
Herriman, UT

Wow, if I was a byu fan and I read this article I would be seriously depressed about the future of byu athletics.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

ConferenceofChampions

If I was a U fan, I'd read this article and the new one about big Russ, and I'd still have no clue what BYU athletics should be all about.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

Great news, Cougar fans!! The University Of Idaho board has approved a plan for Idaho football to go independent. That should set one of your November games for a while. Band together with your new indy rival!

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

WACpaddled

"Your inferior coaching can't beat San Jose St. or Colorado."

Talk about grasping at straws.

I'm not sure whether it's ignorance or sheer desperation that compels you to spam BYU's "overall record" against San Jose State and Colorado, but I guess that's not too surprising coming from a fan of a program that thinks Utah's leather helmet era "domination" is meaningful.

Colorado isn't even on BYU's schedule and it could be years before BYU schedules another game against San Jose State.

BYU is 2-0 versus Colorado in the last half century and hasn't lost to the Buffs since the 40's.

BYU is 6-1 versus San Jose State in the last half century and hasn't lost to the Spartans since the 60's.

In a MUCH more relevant comparison:

Utah is 0-7 versus Washington, including Utah's loss in 2011.
BYU is 4-4 versus Washington, including BYU's win in 2010.

btw, Utah is 1-6 versus SLC YMCA.

*snicker*

Bronco hardly ever loses to bad teams.
Kyle frequently loses to bad teams.

"Superior coaches" don't lose to teams they're supposed to beat.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@wallbanger

I love that I am your 1st thought when you log on here.

LOL!

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