phoenixGilbert, AZWACpaddledESPN was also the exclusive
network to televise BYU's amazing comeback against Utah State, easily one
of the most exciting games televised last season, and ESPN will be there
televise Texas, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame visits to LES in the future.The point is, win or lose, every BYU game is nationally televised, most
of them on ESPN, and even our jealous friends on the hill tune in to watch -
thank you for your support.______________Support indeed.
ESPN is depending on fans from the other schools to watch and hopefully generate
@ Phoenix"And even our jealous friends on the hill tune in to
watch - thank you for your support."-commented the jealous BYU
"fan" on a Utah article :)
WACpaddledESPN was also the exclusive network to televise BYU's
amazing comeback against Utah State, easily one of the most exciting games
televised last season, and ESPN will be there televise Texas, Georgia Tech, and
Notre Dame visits to LES in the future.The point is, win or lose,
every BYU game is nationally televised, most of them on ESPN, and even our
jealous friends on the hill tune in to watch - thank you for your support.
midpacmajorSalt Lake City, UtahNo conference championships for UYou obviously don't understand the definition of an exclusive
contract.An exclusive contract is a contract between one party and a
service provider designating that provider as the only provider of a specific
service for that party - in BYU's case, ESPN is the only provider of
television coverage for BYU home football games subject to the specific terms of
the contract. I wish Utah fans who are too embarrassed to be
associated with the Utes would stop pretending to be BYU fans________So what you are saying is ESPN payed to be the exclusive
network to televise the 54-10 beat down at LES?And is also paying BYU to
be the exclusive network to televise Idaho, New Mexico St., San Jose St and
more? Some exclusive contract. Yawn.LOL!
No conference championships for UYou obviously don't understand
the definition of an exclusive contract.An exclusive contract is a
contract between one party and a service provider designating that provider as
the only provider of a specific service for that party - in BYU's case,
ESPN is the only provider of television coverage for BYU home football games
subject to the specific terms of the contract. I wish Utah fans who
are too embarrassed to be associated with the Utes would stop pretending to be
There is very little exposure for the PAC 12 Netwrok. Otherwise you would see it
on sattelite and cable systems. But those systems have plenty of other, better
channels, like ESPN and BYUtv.I wish fellow Utah fans would stop
stretching the truth about that.
There is nothing exclusive about the ESPN contract. Otherwise all you would see
is BYU 24/7. ESPN has plenty of other contracts. For example the one just signed
with the ACC.I wish fellow BYU fans would stop stretching the truth
upinthenightBYU chose independence over compromising its core
values. Fortunately, BYU has a national brand that is valuable enough to warrant
signing an exclusive 8-year contract to have its games televised on the World
Wide Leader, plus its very own state-of-the-art HD television network
that's already delivering what the PAC Net is still well short of
delivering.Jealous of U?LOL!
Jealous U said:"The mighty Idaho Vandals would beat the tar out
of the mighty Northern Colorado Bears.The Vandals basically had no
choice because EVERYBODY else left the WAC and NOBODY, including the MWC, would
take them.Not all Independents are created equally, just like not
all major conference teams are created equally.In each case,
somebody's got to be a bottom dweller - does 4-5 sound familiar?LOL!"LOL! BYU also had a choice and chose not to join a real
conference. It chose to not play on Sundays and keep its spoon fed ESPN
contract. So what is left? Why being an independent! No wonder you
are so Jealous U!
upinthenightThe mighty Idaho Vandals would beat the tar out of the
mighty Northern Colorado Bears.The Vandals basically had no choice
because EVERYBODY else left the WAC and NOBODY, including the MWC, would take
them.Not all Independents are created equally, just like not all
major conference teams are created equally.In each case,
somebody's got to be a bottom dweller - does 4-5 sound familiar?LOL!
And in other news a major announcement in the college football world today.It appears that some BYU fans are right about other schools jumping to be
independent.The mighty Idaho Vandals just announced they are going indue
in football only. And Big Sky for all other sports.Oh and you play
them this season!LOL!
No conference championship for UYou're the one who was claiming
BYU's ESPN ratings weren't that great; why didn't you post the
ratings?Obvious answer: Because you're just spouting off based
on NOTHING except your BYU-hating biases.I expect ESPN executives to
express their honest opinions of their partnership with BYU, despite what our
jealous friends on the hill may think.
More shallow comments from a fellow BYU fan.Then why didn't you post
the ratings PAC man?And what else do you expect ESPN to say? It the same
thing they say about other contracts. Its their money on the line.
upinthenight"What good is coverage when nobody watches? Look at
the ratings on ESPN last year."You obviously don't have a
clue what the ratings on ESPN were - ESPN executives have said MANY times that
they were thrilled to have BYU as a partner; so who should we believe, a jealous
Utah troll, or the people in the know at ESPN?"Last year you
were boasting and bragging about how BYU TV was going to bring Cougar football
to the world!"BYUtv DID bring BYU football and basketball to BYU
fans throughout the world, so why are you cluelessly trying to claim that it
didn't?Bottom-line:--BYUtv is available in 65
million homes on the basic programming tier--PAC Net is available in far
fewer homes and requires a higher programming tier or sports package in the
limited coverage areas outside the PAC 12 footprintThat's just
the way it is, and no amount of whining or denial from the kids on the hill is
going change that reality.
PAC 12 Punching Bag said:".....This is not what we were promised
and this is not what we claimed. It is a bit of an embarrassment and our deal
does not give us even half the coverage that BYU fans get for their team. It may improve with time but for now it is very disappointing."What good is coverage when nobody watches? Look at the ratings on ESPN
last year. The BYU loss at home to Utah was great though!I can understand
why BYU hopefuls would say that. Last year you were boasting and bragging about
how BYU TV was going to bring cougar football to the world! That tune changed
Duckhunter said:"@johninslcDelfect all you want, the
fact is you will not be getting your wish because what you claimed would happen
did not. I know it hurts you but I'm here for the duration.LOL!"Actually that is kind of creepy and sorry at the same
time. Thanks for admitting that you live on this site though. That says a lot.
DNews has chosen to pull one of my earlier posts with quotes from Jon Wilner,
San Jose Mercury News posted yesterday. His conversation with Cox Cable is quite
informative about the Pac 12 Net's 'failure to launch' in Cox
territory and possibly explains why the satellites are not lining up behind the
Pac-12.My guess is that I'm enjoying this too much and some Ute
fans are very 'sensitive' to this topic. My sincere apology if the
facts are too explicit for both mature and immature Dnews readers.Here's the title... you know how to find it, now go read it.'Pac-12 Networks: Updating the Cox carriage situation'
Why are so many of my fellow Utah fans pretending that this has turned out the
way we all falsely claimed it would turn out? The truth is very few tv sets can
watch our station and most of the tv sets in our own state have no access to it
as of today, launch day.This is not what we were promised and this
is not what we claimed. It is a bit of an embarrassment and our deal does not
give us even half the coverage that BYU fans get for their team. It
may improve with time but for now it is very disappointing.
@johninslcDelfect all you want, the fact is you will not be getting
your wish because what you claimed would happen did not. I know it hurts you but
I'm here for the duration.LOL!
No conference championship for U"What is funny about being
dishonest?"What's so funny about pretending to be a BYU fan
because you're too embarrassed to admit to being a Ute.As
painful as it may be for the kids on the hill to admit, the pipedream of the PAC
Net being available nationally on the basic tier of programming is just that, a
Somebody's feelings get hurt?I see that my post from yesterday
about why Cox Cable has put the brakes on the out of region coverage has been
removed. Hilarious!Here's what Jon Wilner from the Mercury News
got as a response from Cox Cable. In summary... Cox Cable in the
regions will NOT be offering the PAC 12 Net National feed in addition to the
regional.'Updating the Cox carriage situation, from 10/14"*** Won’t show any of the Pac12Nets feeds outside the
league’s six-state footprint... except in Las Vegas, Sun Valley, Kansas,
Arkansas and Omaha.Quinn said that despite 1) an agreement with the
Pac-12 that gives Cox the right to show the national feed everywhere, and 2)
what fans were led to believe on the Pac-12 website’s channel finder
…“Our intention was never to launch in areas
outside” the five noted above, she said.In regard to the Cox
system in Oklahoma, she added: “Beyond the OSU-Arizona game, there’s
not a lot of demand for the channel.”"I think Cox Cable
knows what will and what won't make $.
DuckhunterHighland, UT@waccy and nightyI see you're
trying to deflect the pain, it's ok, do what you need to do.LOL!>>>Looks like a fellow BYU fan is
deflecting pain. What is funny about being dishonest?
@waccy and nightyI see you're trying to deflect the pain,
it's ok, do what you need to do.LOL!
"Nothing superior about that arrangement over BYUtv and ESPN."Wrong again!! (You're still here, ducky? No miles to go--to Tulsa? No
promises to keep--to go quiet on Ute stories?) It already is superior in that 1)
the Utes will get far more $$$, and 2) more people will actually watch the Utes
all season on ESPN, Fox and P12N, as opposed to watching the cougies playing
against crappy teams on ESPNU at 8:30 MST on Thursdays in November, or on BYUtv
following "Little House On The Prairie" re-runs.LOL,
Comparisons of the PAC-12 Network to the Mtn are as laughable as they come.
Larry Scott isn't negotiating with New Mexico, Wyoming and Nevada as main
subscriber areas. He has several of the top TV markets in the nation with fans
wanting access to the channel. He is in a position of power and the DTV deal
will be done any day, as soon as they agree to what Mr Scott wants. Dish on the
other hand can never be relied upon for decent sports programming, so I never
expected them to be a player early on.
And watching them backpedal about BYU TV is classic! "Its only for people
that know what its about." How's that global programming working for
I would of thought that some BYU fans would be honest, rather than twist the
word promise as related to the story and rollout of the network itself.
Unfortunately, the initial launch of the PAC Net is looking more and more like
the failed MTN; it'll certainly improve with time, but the promise that
this was going to be a nationwide network available to all fans nationally is
falling far short of what was originally promised.
WallbangerMy favorite fan... I have nothing to worry about,
I'll be able to watch all of my favorite teams... BYU, USU, Colorado, USC,
Oregon, etc. and maybe an occasional Ute game. I have Comcast so I'm good
to go. The satellite deal still might come about but in the mean
time it's part of a three ring drama circus playing in Uteville.And I've always enjoyed a circus when it comes to town.Pac 12
Net, Blechen, and the Ute QB saga. The real injustice is the real
Ute fan that won't get to see his team play on the blasted network that was
hyped to be everywhere and sadly not available for some in Utah... satellite
subscribers in particular and a few others on cable. Who cares about national
coverage when you can't watch your local team.Nothing superior
about that arrangement over BYUtv and ESPN.Enjoy my comments, they
will continue coming as long as this story is news worthy.
YAY!I can't wait to watch BYU play New Mexico St and San Jose
St on TV to end the season! Some TV ratings that will generate.Ooops,
almost forgot about Idaho.
@wallbangerTwo simple answers for u....Sammy cares, as
do I, because we have had to listen to utah "fans" spout about this for
a couple of years. How it was going to be nationwide, available in every home,
blah, blah, blah. Now that wouldn't be any big deal except those same utah
"fans" tried to use those supposed "facts" to also denigrate
BYU's tv deal which includes tons of games on ESPN and then of course BYUtv
which reaches far more homes already than the pac12 network might ever reach.
Utah "fans" bragged about it and what they claimed it would be from its
inception and now that it is actually falling far short of those claims it is
fun for us to point it out to utah "fans". So it affects our
lives in that it is now our turn to LOL at utah "fans" for having an
inferior setup to the one BYU has. Yes I know utah will get more money but none
of us fans gets any of it. What we care about is being able to see our teams
play. In that aspect BYU fans win this one. BYU has better coverage.
Sammy buddy Two simple questions for U...Why do you even
care??? How does it affect your life and or BYU as to what the PAC 12 Network is
or will be doing??? And you say you're not a Utah hater... LOL
Still no satellite announcement and we are at T minus 24 hours for the PAC 12
Network launch.I'm betting that Mr Clayton and Mr. White are
telling Larry... "If Cox Cable doesn't want it everywhere
why should we?"LOL
What, no HD truck? Still jealous.
"The Pac-12 Networks are wholly owned by the conference, creating the
possibility for a huge financial windfall down the road."Or a
huge financial boondoggle if things don't work out as swimmingly as the day
dreamers had hoped for.Welcome to the MTN on steroids!
haha haven't been on the comment boards for a little while- nice to see our
jealous little brothers are right where I left them: obsessed with Ute football.
It's ok guys, we don't blame you."— The Pac-12
Networks are wholly owned by the conference, creating the possibility for a huge
financial windfall down the road."It's a great time to be a
"A few exciting games this year from the pac and the value goes
up..."starting with the Utah - Northern Colorado scrimmage at 4
o'clock in the afternoon on a weekday, no less.The Utes are
sure to become a fixture on the PAC Net while the big boys of the conference are
playing on the real networks.
A few exciting games this year from the pac and the value goes up...the delay in
inking a deal is because Scott won't settle...Gotta like the guy for his
gutsy management style.
"The primary goals are not financial,” Scott added. “It’s
a long-term opportunity to serve athletes and fans."Hmmm.....that sounds a lot like something Tom Holmoe has said. Does scott
really mean it is EXPOSURE they are after? I thought the only thing that
mattered was the check?
I have Comcast & am looking forward to this Wednesday and no fillers on
"Media industry sources believe DirecTV, with its reliance on sports
programming, is far more likely than Dish to come to terms."Time
to call DirectTV or Comcast and ask for the 'theMtn Plus' package.