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Published: Monday, Aug. 13 2012 7:17 p.m. MDT

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sammyg
Springville, UT

Somebody's feelings get hurt?

I see that my post from yesterday about why Cox Cable has put the brakes on the out of region coverage has been removed. Hilarious!

Here's what Jon Wilner from the Mercury News got as a response from Cox Cable.

In summary... Cox Cable in the regions will NOT be offering the PAC 12 Net National feed in addition to the regional.

'Updating the Cox carriage situation, from 10/14

"*** Won’t show any of the Pac12Nets feeds outside the league’s six-state footprint... except in Las Vegas, Sun Valley, Kansas, Arkansas and Omaha.

Quinn said that despite 1) an agreement with the Pac-12 that gives Cox the right to show the national feed everywhere, and 2) what fans were led to believe on the Pac-12 website’s channel finder …

“Our intention was never to launch in areas outside” the five noted above, she said.

In regard to the Cox system in Oklahoma, she added: “Beyond the OSU-Arizona game, there’s not a lot of demand for the channel.”"

I think Cox Cable knows what will and what won't make $.

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

No conference championship for U

"What is funny about being dishonest?"

What's so funny about pretending to be a BYU fan because you're too embarrassed to admit to being a Ute.

As painful as it may be for the kids on the hill to admit, the pipedream of the PAC Net being available nationally on the basic tier of programming is just that, a pipedream.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@johninslc

Delfect all you want, the fact is you will not be getting your wish because what you claimed would happen did not. I know it hurts you but I'm here for the duration.

LOL!

PAC 12 Punching Bag
Salt Lake City, UT

Why are so many of my fellow Utah fans pretending that this has turned out the way we all falsely claimed it would turn out? The truth is very few tv sets can watch our station and most of the tv sets in our own state have no access to it as of today, launch day.

This is not what we were promised and this is not what we claimed. It is a bit of an embarrassment and our deal does not give us even half the coverage that BYU fans get for their team.

It may improve with time but for now it is very disappointing.

sammyg
Springville, UT

DNews has chosen to pull one of my earlier posts with quotes from Jon Wilner, San Jose Mercury News posted yesterday. His conversation with Cox Cable is quite informative about the Pac 12 Net's 'failure to launch' in Cox territory and possibly explains why the satellites are not lining up behind the Pac-12.

My guess is that I'm enjoying this too much and some Ute fans are very 'sensitive' to this topic. My sincere apology if the facts are too explicit for both mature and immature Dnews readers.

Here's the title... you know how to find it, now go read it.

'Pac-12 Networks: Updating the Cox carriage situation'

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Duckhunter said:

"@johninslc

Delfect all you want, the fact is you will not be getting your wish because what you claimed would happen did not. I know it hurts you but I'm here for the duration.

LOL!"

Actually that is kind of creepy and sorry at the same time. Thanks for admitting that you live on this site though. That says a lot.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

PAC 12 Punching Bag said:

".....This is not what we were promised and this is not what we claimed. It is a bit of an embarrassment and our deal does not give us even half the coverage that BYU fans get for their team.

It may improve with time but for now it is very disappointing."

What good is coverage when nobody watches? Look at the ratings on ESPN last year. The BYU loss at home to Utah was great though!
I can understand why BYU hopefuls would say that. Last year you were boasting and bragging about how BYU TV was going to bring cougar football to the world! That tune changed quickly.

PAC man
Anaheim, CA

upinthenight

"What good is coverage when nobody watches? Look at the ratings on ESPN last year."

You obviously don't have a clue what the ratings on ESPN were - ESPN executives have said MANY times that they were thrilled to have BYU as a partner; so who should we believe, a jealous Utah troll, or the people in the know at ESPN?

"Last year you were boasting and bragging about how BYU TV was going to bring Cougar football to the world!"

BYUtv DID bring BYU football and basketball to BYU fans throughout the world, so why are you cluelessly trying to claim that it didn't?

Bottom-line:

--BYUtv is available in 65 million homes on the basic programming tier
--PAC Net is available in far fewer homes and requires a higher programming tier or sports package in the limited coverage areas outside the PAC 12 footprint

That's just the way it is, and no amount of whining or denial from the kids on the hill is going change that reality.

No Conference Will Take Us
SEATTLE, WA

More shallow comments from a fellow BYU fan.
Then why didn't you post the ratings PAC man?
And what else do you expect ESPN to say? It the same thing they say about other contracts. Its their money on the line.

Truth Machine
Salt Lake City, UT

No conference championship for U

You're the one who was claiming BYU's ESPN ratings weren't that great; why didn't you post the ratings?

Obvious answer: Because you're just spouting off based on NOTHING except your BYU-hating biases.

I expect ESPN executives to express their honest opinions of their partnership with BYU, despite what our jealous friends on the hill may think.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

And in other news a major announcement in the college football world today.
It appears that some BYU fans are right about other schools jumping to be independent.
The mighty Idaho Vandals just announced they are going indue in football only. And Big Sky for all other sports.

Oh and you play them this season!

LOL!

Jealous U
Alpine, UT

upinthenight

The mighty Idaho Vandals would beat the tar out of the mighty Northern Colorado Bears.

The Vandals basically had no choice because EVERYBODY else left the WAC and NOBODY, including the MWC, would take them.

Not all Independents are created equally, just like not all major conference teams are created equally.

In each case, somebody's got to be a bottom dweller - does 4-5 sound familiar?

LOL!

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

Jealous U said:

"The mighty Idaho Vandals would beat the tar out of the mighty Northern Colorado Bears.

The Vandals basically had no choice because EVERYBODY else left the WAC and NOBODY, including the MWC, would take them.

Not all Independents are created equally, just like not all major conference teams are created equally.

In each case, somebody's got to be a bottom dweller - does 4-5 sound familiar?

LOL!"

LOL! BYU also had a choice and chose not to join a real conference. It chose to not play on Sundays and keep its spoon fed ESPN contract. So what is left? Why being an independent!

No wonder you are so Jealous U!

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

upinthenight

BYU chose independence over compromising its core values. Fortunately, BYU has a national brand that is valuable enough to warrant signing an exclusive 8-year contract to have its games televised on the World Wide Leader, plus its very own state-of-the-art HD television network that's already delivering what the PAC Net is still well short of delivering.

Jealous of U?

LOL!

No Conference Will Take Us
SEATTLE, WA

There is nothing exclusive about the ESPN contract. Otherwise all you would see is BYU 24/7. ESPN has plenty of other contracts. For example the one just signed with the ACC.

I wish fellow BYU fans would stop stretching the truth about that.

PAC 12 Punching Bag
Salt Lake City, UT

There is very little exposure for the PAC 12 Netwrok. Otherwise you would see it on sattelite and cable systems. But those systems have plenty of other, better channels, like ESPN and BYUtv.

I wish fellow Utah fans would stop stretching the truth about that.

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah

No conference championships for U

You obviously don't understand the definition of an exclusive contract.

An exclusive contract is a contract between one party and a service provider designating that provider as the only provider of a specific service for that party - in BYU's case, ESPN is the only provider of television coverage for BYU home football games subject to the specific terms of the contract.

I wish Utah fans who are too embarrassed to be associated with the Utes would stop pretending to be BYU fans.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

midpacmajor
Salt Lake City, Utah
No conference championships for U

You obviously don't understand the definition of an exclusive contract.

An exclusive contract is a contract between one party and a service provider designating that provider as the only provider of a specific service for that party - in BYU's case, ESPN is the only provider of television coverage for BYU home football games subject to the specific terms of the contract.

I wish Utah fans who are too embarrassed to be associated with the Utes would stop pretending to be BYU fans

________

So what you are saying is ESPN payed to be the exclusive network to televise the 54-10 beat down at LES?
And is also paying BYU to be the exclusive network to televise Idaho, New Mexico St., San Jose St and more?
Some exclusive contract. Yawn.

LOL!

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

WACpaddled

ESPN was also the exclusive network to televise BYU's amazing comeback against Utah State, easily one of the most exciting games televised last season, and ESPN will be there televise Texas, Georgia Tech, and Notre Dame visits to LES in the future.

The point is, win or lose, every BYU game is nationally televised, most of them on ESPN, and even our jealous friends on the hill tune in to watch - thank you for your support.

nosaerfoecioveht
NSL, UT

@ Phoenix

"And even our jealous friends on the hill tune in to watch - thank you for your support."

-commented the jealous BYU "fan" on a Utah article :)

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