@motorbike"Also realize that a guy like Denham can move down the
depth chart for reasons beside not being a good receiver, like other receivers
stepping up and showing they're simply that much better."That is exactly my point. Hype is meaningless, players must actually do
something 1st. It is far easier to see BYU has a couple of studs at wr than it
is to make the same claim for utah, and I'm not trying to pimp BYU's
wr's here, just pointing out they have actually done something to deserve
some recognition. If, and when, utah's wr's do something significant
then we can start making comparisons to other schools and arguing about whether
they "might or might not be the best group in the pac12". Until then
they are just a bunch of guys that hasn't done much yet.
I wouldn't call the Utah WRs the best in the PAC either but Utah has
undeniable talent at WR. They aren't necessarily the tallest guys but they
all have decent speed and I would be scared if Utah had a QB who could really
throw it to them. When Jordan Wynn has been healthy it's been scary to see
what some of these receivers are capable of.
Ducky,I've got to say that I agree with everything you wrote in
that last comment of yours. It's nice when we can agree.However, keep in mind that Sorenson is saying "might be". Also realize that a guy like Denham can move down the depth chart for reasons
beside not being a good receiver, like other receivers stepping up and showing
they're simply that much better. None of us really know, which is why I
agree with your overall take ... until we see it, there's nothing to talk
For giggles lets pull a classic from the "legacy program" archives:"BYU football: Receiver corps is top-10 quality, O'Neill
Chambers says" -- DN 8/14/2010Now even Ducky can LOL at that.Go Utes!!
@gdogThey need to actually do something before it can even be
insinuated that they might be "the best in the PAC 12". There are plenty
of talented and great athletes at almost every school in the country, utah is
nothing special on that front. But just claiming they might be great based on
almost nothing is very far fetched. I notice denham, the most highly touted of
all of them, has been bounced down the depth chart yet again and is not even
anywhere close to being on the 2 deep, and that is the point isn't it? He
was undoubtedly the most hyped wr on utah's roster coming in, considered
the best athlete of the bunch, and yes he has had injuries but he is simply
nowhere to be seen now.Frankly I do not think these 5 guys are any
better athletes than any 5 wr's at any other pac 12 school. @motorbikeYou are correct, I do not believe utah's qb's
to be any good, they have proven not to be. As far as the wr's I simply
don't know, no one does. They haven't done anything yet.
I certainly didn't say the WRs at Utah are the best in the PAC 12, but I
hope they end up being that way. The team game thing that people forget comes
into play (O-line, QB, WRs, the TE and backs ect...If you don't
think the WRs at Utah are talented and deep though, then I think you need to
Duckhunter, By saying these receivers may or may not be the best in
the PAC 12, Sorenson is saying they still have to prove themselves. Which is
true, they do, but Devonte is an amazing receiver. Last year he averaged 15.8
yards per reception which is more than BYU's Hoffman. No, Devonte
didn't get as many yards, but we know that was because Utah didn't
pass much last year. And saying he "hasn't done much of anything,
especially with teams like USC...", is absolutely false. In the Utah v. USC
game last year, he had 11 receptions for 136 yards while Robert Woods only had 8
receptions for 102 yards. Devonte has proven himself able to compete against
USC.I've know all five of these receivers and know what they
are capable of. I truly believe with a healthy quarterback, they will heavily
influence each game they play.
Duckhunterchristopher never saw the day he could hold up
Collie's jock so LOL at that comparison.------------He compared Collie to Chad Johnson not DC. Again less LOL more concentrating
on what your reading.Collie was MIA last year I wonder why? Figure
it out, I think you're smarter than that.
@papsmearutechristopher never saw the day he could hold up
Collie's jock so LOL at that comparison.As soon as christopher
actually DOES SOMETHING we can talk. Until then this is simply more utah
"fan" delusion and in this case it is hilariously deluded. "If
devonte was on this team" or "if devonte was on that team" is also
hilarious. 1st of all he isn't, he is on utah which is a notoriously poor
passing team. 2nd of all if he was as good as you claim he WOULD be on oregon or
usc, not utah. The best part of all of this is that if this exact
same group of wr's was on BYU, and had done the same amount of very little
to nothing they have done at utah, and Dick Harmon was saying similar things
about them that sorenson is, and BYU fans were trying to make the claims utah
"fans" are making here, we would be hearing from you non stop about it.
ute "fan" hypocrisy is always fun to behold.
Ducky, Can we agree that you really aren't saying anything
about the receivers but are instead saying it's Utah's quarterbacks
you don't believe to be any good?You may very well end up being
right about Wynn and Hays and Utah may seriously struggle at QB more than some
are willing to admit ... but the point of the article is that the receivers are
very talented. I tend to agree with Sorenson that this might be the deepest the
U has ever been at the receiver spot. But I also agree with you, we may never
get to see their true potential if it ends up being a repeat of what happened
with Wynn and Hays last year.My prediction is that it'll be a
better year passing and catching the ball up on the hill ... but I doubt
we'll see any real spectacular numbers. I also don't think Utah needs
to get too worried if they aren't spectacular numbers, they just need to be
decent for Utah to see a lot of W's.
Ducky,It was Ted Miller and a USC announcer that called Devonte the
best reciever on the field last year against USC, and they had Robert Woods. If
Devonte was on Oregon or USC last year, with a QB and offense that could get him
the ball, he would be getting a lot of love from the national press and blogs.
Devonte can take a hit, as proved by the cheap shots the Y tried to pull last
year in ProvoSee the Colts in the NFL. Collie had Manning, one of
the best ever, and he got Collie the ball, and Collie looked like an average NFL
WR. Last year, Collie looked like Chad Johnson with the Pats. QB is everything.
A great WR can only do so much when the QB cant get him the ball.
Devonte has an uncanny ability to get open. I was impressed last year at how
often he'd sprint down 20 yards and while the QB was searching or
scrambling he'd turn back and leave the defense, only to be open time after
time. The guy is clutch. If the other receivers are half as good as
Christopher, this group could be special and very deep indeed.If
Wynn can stay healthy there is no reason we can't win the South. Byu fans
- remember we took USC on their field down to the last second last year. at
Rice Eccles I see a similarly close game, but this time in our favor.
I "LOLed" at Sorenson's line "May or may not be the best group
of wr's in the PAC 12". It was an incredibly dumb thing to say about a
bunch of wr's who haven't done much of anything, especially with teams
like USC, Oregon and Stanford in that conference. And it really doesn't
matter if it was the qb's fault or not, none of them has done anything. Go
back to the year before last, none of the ones that were there at that time did
much of anything then either. Based on those facts these guys don't even
belong in any conversation about being "the best in the PAC 12". So whether I am being a "hater" or not I am the one that is
correct about this, and considering they have the same lame qb's as last
year, and are replacing the most important parts of the oline as it relates to
the passing game, then I'm gonna go out on a limb and LOL again about these
guys "maybe being the best group of wr's in the PAC12".
Duck,If byu beats Utah or does better than 1-2 against boise, notre
dame, and Georgia Tech I'll buy you a steak dinner and sing the byu fight
song.Utah 32byu 10riley 4 turnoversmark it
@MonkVery good point. Will the WRs have time to run their routes?@DuckhunterIt does sound a little like you are being a Utah
hater on this latest post. I would say that we don't know for sure on these
WRs, but the talent hype is not just a bunch of rah rah. The passing game needs
some continuity, and maybe we will see that this year. I believe in Wynn if
healthy, but I have to see him stand in the pocket and not be afraid to get hit.
And the O-line is a big unknown this year. Oh yeah, and I also don't know
how much to expect out of Johnson in his first year as OC. Other than that, I
think the WRs will be best of all time. On second thought, maybe they will just
be good.Also Duck, sorry to say, but I actually LOL myself when I
read Uteology's second paragraph. Here it is; "You need to spend less
time LOL and more time reading." That was funny man. I think he was right
Duck (a little less LOL and more objective reading).
Ducky,I can honestly see why you would be skeptical and I don't
think anyone really knows how good this receiving corp is. However, the
reason is that they simply haven't had enough balls thrown their way and
and when the ball was thrown their way it has typically been by either an
injured QB or from Hays, and we all know his story.If you can't see
and admit that Utah's quarterback situation was the main reason for a lack
of receiver production last year, well then you're just being a Utah hater
and not at all objective. All you need to do is look at the number of times Utah
ran the ball versus passed the ball. Up that to 50/50 as they hope to do this
year and then we can all make our judgments.
@DuckThey have the talent, the question is do they have a QB that
can get them the ball? Not last year, this year you'll have to wait and
see.You need to spend less time LOL and more time reading. Here let
me help you:"The receiving corps looks good, too. The receivers
weren't as productive as they should have been last season because of
quarterback issues. The Utes return their top four wide receivers, and senior
DeVonte Christopher leads the way. He has the ability to get deep, as does
senior Reggie Dunn. Senior Luke Matthews and sophomores Kenneth Scott and Dres
Anderson round out the top quintet, all of whom have the talent to make 30
catches. Only Christopher (42) caught that many passes last season." --
Mike Huguenin (Yahoo Sports)
Come on sorenson, into hyperbole I see. "This group may, or may not, be the
best group of wr's in the PAC 12". Huh? I think we can safely say they
"ARE NOT" the best group in the PAC 12. For one thing none of them has
done anything much, the passing attack for utah last year was one of the worst
in the nation. Yea I know "we had a D2 qb", blah, blah, blah, but those
"may be the best in the PAC 12" wr's are half of it.Their combined statistics barely equal the total of 2 pretty good wr's
let alone 5 wr's that "may or may not be the best group of wr's in
the PAC 12".LOL!
Can't wait to see what happens! Hopefully the QB & OL positions can
facilitate the kind of timing that can get the ball to these guys!
This group has a lot of talent and can put up some big numbers ... if ... the QB
and the OL stay healthy and can do their part.
Would enjoy seeing an offense that looks to pass as much as the run as was the
case in our two most successful seasons. Air it out Bryan.