Dick Harmon: Holding back on hits paying off for Cougars


Return To Article
  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 13, 2012 9:21 p.m.

    * up to the Tulsa game...

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 13, 2012 9:16 p.m.


    BYU and Utah both played Oregon State, both won by the approximate same point spread. I forget, did you beat them at home?

    Before the Hawaii game I engaged in a ridiculous exercise, comparing teams that U played that then played Hawaii to try to come up with a possible spread for the game. It yielded a spread of anything from a 40 point loss to a 20 point victory. Not very scientific, but it was amusing and it did show an improved BYU.

    I think GT and Tulsa were pretty comparable before the bowls, and the results of the bowls would indicate maybe so.

    I think the BYU that lost to U was not even a top 100 team. I think the Utah team that beat BYU senseless was easily a top 25 team. But by the end of the season, BYU was a legit top 25 team, and U had Colorado.

    Draw a line from the BYU game down to Colorado, with an uptick for GT, and you have fairly accurately described Utah's season. Draw a line from the Utah game up to the those game, and you have done the same thing.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 13, 2012 9:01 p.m.


    A fairly reasonable comment, and yet really, what you have to be saying is that all of those poll voters have to be idiots. All of them! Don't they get it? "BYU only beat patsies! They don't REALLY deserve that ranking."

    That sounds about as shrill and tin-can hollow as when BYU fans try to shrug off U'r victory over Alabama as a fluke, "their heart wasn't really into it." At the end of the day, Utah really DID beat Alabama and BYU really did end the season ranked 25th in one poll and 26th in another. Close enough for shootin', the national voters have spoken.

    Utah really did thrash my beloved cougars by 44, but here's why I think anyone is a fool who thinks that accurately reflects the state of the two programs.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 13, 2012 11:56 a.m.

    Do any of you look at your screen names (i.e. 54-10, 17-14), and think they need to be changed by now? The football season is about to start. New scores will happen. Then what? I am guessing the rivalry game (only a month away now) will start new screen names.

    Maybe I should become 34-31 forever.

  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 13, 2012 12:03 a.m.

    @Y Dad/Y Dad

    Top 25?

    Do you really think BYU was worthy of a top 25 ranking to end the season last year? They weren't ranked anywhere near the top 25 until they won 4 games in November against the worst of the worst (schedule wise).

    BYU has a brand name and has the exposure of ESPN. That is what got them ranked. It's the corruption of college football. That said, I feel no different about the BCS either, even though my Utes are now a member of that elitist society.

    We have rankings and fans want to hang their hats on it. I get that. I just think head to head games against your rival and winning upper echelon bowl games games is where it's at. Yes, that puts Utah ahead as of late, but BYU has arguments for superiority as well. I get that to.

    We will continue to go back and forth, even so when the rivalry takes a break for two years. Can you imagine the crazy comparisons we will hear then? No head to head = this team beat that team by this much, which makes my team better ect...

  • 17-14 Hurts Don't It? Springville, UT
    Aug. 12, 2012 9:51 a.m.


    The games BYU lost last year don't come close to the embarrassment of the Utes stinging loss to Colorado.

    54-10 was a simply fluke. Hug that victory Utesies, it's all you got in the face of losing 'everything' to Colorado last year.

    It is hilarious for U to continually bring this 54-10 up when 17-14 is so much more, and now you're on here ridiculing Bronco for his practice schedule while your injuries continue to pile up.

    You're one QB injury away from being back to where you were last year. Such depth, such genius by Coach Whit. Geesh, when will U guys ever learn?

    Keep it up! You're the best joke in town.

    Got some satellite yet?

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 11:03 p.m.

    Y Grad/Y Dad is right. And it's not just because I'm a Y fan. BYU lost the battle, but clearly won the war last year. No doubts about it. This is according to every single poll. I'm guessing by all the Ute traffic we get on these comment boards trashing the Y that that fact really stings those Ute fans. Apparently more than 54-10 does.

  • Mortoon Idaho Falls, ID
    Aug. 11, 2012 8:36 p.m.

    Maybe he should have them play a little badminton. Or would the fear flying shuttlecocks?

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 5:08 p.m.

    I'm greatfull we don't tackle each other. We are alot tuffer than other teams because of it.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 11, 2012 5:01 p.m.


    And after the BYU game...

    ... wait for it ...

    ... they whimpered. Thus the season, the ranking, the end.

    Oh, and way to hang in there against Colorado. Tell me again why UCLA went to the inaugural conference championship game instead of you? This is what you'd rather? Good thing! You got it.

  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 3:40 p.m.

    Y Grad Y Daddyio-

    I'd rather play decent teams and hang in there then be snoozing in November waiting for ranked teams to lose. Best place to talk is on the field, which Utah did.. in fact they YELLED at BYU 54-10.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 11, 2012 3:27 p.m.

    54-10 does still hurt, never denied that.

    Finishing unranked, behind the rival that you trashed, and losing the opportunity to play in the inaugural conference championship by losing to the worlds worst road football team, at home no less, tell me honestly, that doesn't sting? Just a little?

    Choking down the home stretch. I feel bad for coach Whit and the team because I really do respect them. But I ain't gonna lie - it looks real good on a lot of u fans!

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 3:07 p.m.

    Sounds like they should stick to slip n slides and flag football so nobody gets hurt.

  • Yerffoegn Maricopa, Az
    Aug. 11, 2012 2:01 p.m.

    The Ute's have just announced some serious injuries. Please, keep it up, beat yourselves up practicing. I'll take Bronco's new approach and see what happens.

  • ConferenceofChampions Herriman, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 1:58 p.m.

    Only a delusional y fan could be satisfied with running up a string of wins against the absolute worst teams in college football and hanging that feather in their cap.

    Oh, and one more thing.....54-10


  • GoGetter Sandy, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 11:34 a.m.


    Couldn't agree more!!

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 11:01 a.m.

    Y Grad/Y Dad

    54-10 still hurts doesnt it?

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    Aug. 11, 2012 9:35 a.m.

    Yuck it up fuzzballs. If we concede coach Whit and his and of Utes his one BCS victory, which we must and it was huge, otherwise Bronco and BYU have generally been better than Utah. Even last year, the year of our humiliation, BYU ended the season ranked, U did not. Gnash about it all you want, you cannot change that simple fact.

    So then, what must we conclude? If BYU starts slow, Utah chokes down the home stretch? BYU loses to the teams it is supposed to and Utah loses to the teams it is supposed to beat?

  • ConferenceofChampions Herriman, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 9:01 a.m.

    There is nothing new here folks. Bronko is known for running soft practices. This translates to the teams slow starts every year, and a propensity of players taking "cheap shots" and incurring penalties during the game.

    byu is like the guy who goes out, spends 1000's of dollars on golf equipment and clothing. gets dolled up, talks a big game to the guys at work, brags about his impressive 300+ yard drives. Hangs around the driving range and hits a few good ones, but then whiffs off the tee when it comes time to really put it in play.


  • Silent Lurker Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Aug. 11, 2012 8:39 a.m.

    There are just too many variables to accurately access if this works or not especially this early in the season. If it works Bronko will be a hero--if it doesn't I would not want to face his fan base.

  • kaspercasey gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 10, 2012 10:36 p.m.

    Yeah too bad Bronco doesn't model his practices after your high school team.

  • Kosta Fesenko Chicken McNuggetville, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 9:58 p.m.

    LOL! Love this article! Its written as though we are 6 games in to the season! LOL!

  • kaspercasey gilbert, AZ
    Aug. 10, 2012 6:25 p.m.

    I like it. In the past it is disheartening to hear about all the injuries pilling up in fall camp, even in spring camp this year. It's a model that worked for Bill Walsh. I think it's one of the things BYU has picked up from some of the pro teams this offseason. BYU has a couple of games to sure up tackling skills before they go up to the U.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    Aug. 10, 2012 5:37 p.m.

    Why would Bronco limit the hits? According to BYU "fan", the team is 5 deep at every position.


  • gdog3finally West Jordan, Utah
    Aug. 10, 2012 5:35 p.m.

    Paying off? Yes you cut down on players getting dinged up by not hitting. To say it pays off, to me though, means playing well once the season starts. BYU has started slow each year in Mendenhall's tenure as coach save it be one season.