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Published: Thursday, Aug. 9 2012 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Theinvisibleman
Horsham, W Sussex

What a sad and uninformed view. Whilst not a perfect system, the NHS has looked after me and my family for many years. We get an excellent service which we all pay for via our taxes. No selection process and no-one looking for our credit card as we enter the hospital or visit our local GP. It is available to all as it is needed and it should be rightly celebrated. I guess you also missed Mr Bean playing Chariots of Fire?

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

While in Israel, Mitt Romney heaped lavish praise on Israel's healthcare system. They spend less than half of what we do, and are every bit as healthy. They, of course, have a version of socialized medicine, as does every other developed country in the world, except us. Survey's also show that the population in those socialized medicine countries tends to be much happier with their system than we are with ours.

liberate
Sandy, UT

I think this article is greatly lacking in thought and perspective. Let's say the majority of Londoners, not all, but the majority, prefer "socialized" medicine over the form we have here, where costs are outrageous and a significant minority do not have any health coverage. Let's suppose they have made the decision that they are fine with receiving subpar or delayed treatment in exchange for coverage for all. Who are we to judge their decision to do something a different way, not wrong by the way, just different. Who are we then to judge them for celebrating on their home soil their way of doing things? I see no problem with it even though I prefer our system. I'm also sure your husband would have a different perspective if he were one of those here who has no coverage at all. Perhaps in that scenario lower quality "socialized" medicine wouldn't look so bad.

UT Brit
London, England

The NHS has served us very well for over 60 years, the vast majority of Brits are proud of the NHS. We are disturbed that the current conservative government is trying to go down a health system more approaching the US, a system that is the worst in the 1st world by almost every discernible metric. So see it as a tribute if you will.

If you want scary, try waiting in a US ER and then dealing with a US health insurance company after. Having lived on both sides of the pond I would take the NHS any day of the week over the US health care system.

As for the opening ceremony it was okay, it could have been much worse. You compare the opening ceremonies of Beijing to London which is more than a little unfair when you take into account budgets. I have found the people that enjoyed it are the ones who knew a bit about the history of the UK.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Romneycare.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

Your husband may hate England's healthcare system, but people living there evidently don't! The English have a life expectancy of 80.5 compared to American's anemic 78.2, and they do it for $3487. per capita while we spend $7960. Don't feel bad, we have a life expectancy a couple of months greater than Slovenia, and we almost live as long as Cubans, although they both spend a lot less on health care than we do.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

Sooo scary to be able to get medical attention when needed without the worry of losing your home and everything else.

I enjoyed the Opening Ceremony, and wish with all my heart that the US had a similar system to Britain's NHS.

Henderson
Orem, UT

If you're not a fan of socialized medicine, that's fine.

But certainly you cannot be advocating a system like ours! A system that excludes those who need health care the most? A system that excludes 30+ million people? A regressive system which focuses on treatment rather than prevention? A system that drops you if you become sick? A system that causes bankruptcy? A system which costs double socialized medicine while seeing worse results?

Certainly you cannot be advocating our system...

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

I thought there was much more to British history, culture, and society that could have been trumpeted before the world than their health care system, but if they are happy with it, let them be happy with it, just don't force it on us.

liberal larry,
more goes into life expectancy than health care. lifestyle contributes significantly more than does access to health care.

our "mess" of a system as some have described it became much messier with Obamacare. And where is the reduction in cost BO promised would go along with it? My premiums have gone up, not down.

Esquire,
you know the heart and intent of the missionary?

Gildas
LOGAN, UT

I like my own health system: eat wonderful healthy food, avoid overeating, get exercise naturally by doing moderate physical work regularly, be married with wife my exclusive partner, don't overdo it, don't worry too much, avoid drugs including medecines, seek clean air and water, that kind of thing.

It costs almost nothing and works better than either the British NHS or the American system which is also very controlled and expensive. Keep costs down by avoiding doctors except if really necessary.

freedomingood
provo, Utah

England has no obligation to make thier olympics appeal to the US viewer. What would they do, show Donald Trump firing someone and Snookie eating on a couch?

I thank the people from England for stepping in here, the USA is truly in need of international help to save us from the facist movement.

"two years many years ago" So your husband served a mission in England many years ago? Respectfully, that doesn't really qualify you as an expert on thier healthcare system. I realy wish people could be open minded enough to realize the facts that these socialized systems cost half as much and work better than our system. Oh but for pride thier eyes would be opened.

Esquire
Springville, UT

The British system works and they are proud of it. The U. S. system is a mess. Besides, taking the word of an American there temporarily for two years who probably didn't understand the system and had pre-existing bias is hardly a reliable way to assess their system. Their results are better than ours at less cost. By the way, isn't it interesting how some prefer the ceremony of the totalitarian state over that of the free one?

Roland Kayser
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Several years ago I lived in Canada for about six months. While there, I became seriously ill. I called a local clinic and they made an appointment for me that same day. I went in, they treated me, gave me shots and a prescription. They apologized to me saying that since I was not a Canadian citizen they would have to bill me for the service. A month or so later, I got a bill for a very small amount, much lower than it would have to get the same services here.

Does this one experience make me an expert on the Canadian healthcare system? If so, it was great.

Eric Samuelsen
Provo, UT

Since personal anecdotes seem to be all the rage here, let me say that I received superb treatment under Norway's socialized medicine system. I've spent a lot of time there doing research, and since I'm really klutzy and awkward, pretty much got hurt every time I was there. I've never received anything less than terrific service.
As for the London opening ceremony, I've also spent a lot of time in England, understand their history and culture, and loved their ceremony. And when Paul McCartney sang Hey Jude, I was in tears. I especially loved the tribute to children's literature. But the NHS tribute was great too.

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

I know a young man who was mugged in our country while working on a volunteer basis for 2 yrs. His "medical exam" consisted of a phone call, which is not uncommon. I'm sure he would've gotten an in-person medical exam if it were serious? I hope he doesn't judge our medical system based on that single experience.

SG in SLC
Salt Lake City, UT

Apparently, the significance to British history and culture of children's literature in general, and Sir James M. Barrie (and his famous relationship with the Great Ormond Street Hospital, and by extension, the NHS) in particular, is lost on Ms. Summers. Pity. However, what's more the pity is her also apparent need to politicize that fact in her letter.

I, on the other hand, found that part of the Opening Ceremonies both fascinating and enlightening.

liberal larry
salt lake City, utah

Gildas, I totally agree with your lifestyle philosophy, but what about my wife's best friend who died of non-hodgkins lymphoma at age 46? Or my sister who had a coronary artery anomaly which caused a heart attack at age 63? What about my friend's clean living wife who died of colon cancer in her 40's.

Everyone should have health insurance, no matter what your risk factors, sometimes stuff just happens.

UT Brit
London, England

@Gildas

Yes very admirable things to do and good advice to all. I must say though, clean air, water and little medications don't help very much when you have a shattered shin bone poking through your skin.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

Good heavens. Why is it our place to judge what the British wish to celebrate? It is their country and their culture they are showcasing.

Not everyone needs explosions, car chases, and girls in bikinis to be entertained.

Wonder
Provo, UT

Oh absolutely! I find it so revolting that everyone in the UK has health insurance that I have not watched one minute of the Olympics in protest!

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