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Published: Wednesday, Aug. 8 2012 8:25 p.m. MDT

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U 90
Corona, CA

TrueBlue,

Yet Utah STILL owns BYU head to head all time, L10, L5. L1. For every point you make there is a counter point. So it's a ridiculous exercise to go back and forth.

Again, if you go back and read this thread the general theme is.... BYU Fan hating on Utah QBs. And my point is that your own QBs are really not that prolific so why all the hate?

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

U 90,

But BYU's QBs ARE REALLY prolific! Look at the Utah high school record books, and you will not see Wynn, Hays, Wilson or Schulz anywhere in there! Yet, it's full of Nelson, Lark and Kuresa! See?! See?!

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

Nice sugar-coating Dirk, but what exactly has changed from last season???

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The incoming 2012 class is Utah's highest ranked class at Utah. That would explain why Utah now has depth at QB and RB.

From what I read, not including comments from Utah haters, all indications are Utah is better today than Season I.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

U 90

NOBODY except the hill trolls cares about your leather helmet era head-to-head "domination", because Utah did absolutely NOTHING on a national scale.

BYU has dominated U since Utah's first appearance in the Top 25.

CG
Orem, UT

Uteology

"The incoming 2012 class is Utah's highest ranked class at Utah. That would explain why Utah now has depth at QB and RB."

As usual, you bury your head in stars and completely ignore reality.

Utah's top two QB's for 2012 are the SAME as they were for 2011:

An injury-prone starter and backup D-II transfer who LOST to 10-loss Colorado.

And that doesn't even consider the fact that the Utes are replacing Chow with BJ, a newbie OC with only a couple of years of coaching experience.

U 90
Corona, CA

True Blue,

I guess I didn't know that you consider the Latest 20 years, L15, L10, L5 and last year the "leather helmet" era. Try to keep up.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

U 90

Pre-WAC - Utah owned BYU
WAC/MWC/PAC/Ind - BYU has owned U

Last 6 Years
Top 25 Finishes
BYU 5
Utah 3

Conference Championships
BYU 2
Utah 1

Head-to-head
BYU 3
Utah 3

Overall
BYU 60-18
Utah 58-20

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Last 40 Years

Top 25 Finishes
BYU 18
Utah 6

Conference Championships
BYU 22
Utah 5

Head-to-head
BYU 26
Utah 14

Overall
BYU 349-148-3 (70%)
Utah 264-202-3 (57%)

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Last 50 Years

Top 25 Finishes
BYU 18
Utah 7

Conference Championships
BYU 23
Utah 6

Head-to-head
BYU 29
Utah 21

Overall
BYU 394-204-4 (66%)
Utah 313-255-4 (55%)

The L6, L40, L50 BYU has owned U.

Try to keep up.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

mussingaround

The numbers are completely dominating in BYU's favor ALL TIME when you consider overall accomplishments on a national scale - National Championships, Heisman Trophies, Top 25 Finishes, National Individual Awards, and National College Football Hall of Fame players.

Utah has NOTHING but a bunch of leather era conference championships in conferences the vast majority of fans have never even heard of and a couple of recent "perfect storm" breakthroughs.

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U 90

Name ONE Utah accomplishment on a national scale prior to 1962, the year BYU and Utah helped create the WAC.

*crickets*

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@u90

The point, and it is an accurate one, is that utah still does not have anywhere near the stable of highly touted qb recruits BYU has, it isn't even close. utah has exactly one top 20 qb recruit on its team while every qb on BYU's roster (Kuresa is an athlete that has been moved to wr) is a top 30 recruit including one that is the #2 ranked recruit in the entire nation. The only exception to that is Nelson who owns just about every qb record in the Utah high school record books.

Now utah "fans" have tried to claim in this very forum that utah has surpassed BYU at that position in recruits and tlaent, that is just plain false. utah has very little history of either recruiting, or developing, top qb's. It is not a destination for qb's and one off season in which they picked up one decent qb recruit hasn't changed that reality. While wilson was a borderline top 20 recruit Mangum was the #2 recruit in the country. Outside of that utah got a walkon and an unranked qb recruit in hansen. Obviously problem solved.

LOL!

utahcountyute
Cedar Hills, UT

Ducky

You can keep all your "highly touted" qb recruits. You didn't mention your most "highly touted" in the last decade though. I wonder why? Oh that's right he's now the back up at Kansas. (laughing on the ground)

I like our chances this year with Jordan, Hays and Wilson. Either way, the cougs won't get past the 50.

Go Utes!

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Ducky

Yes you have highly touted QB's that no one wants, specially the NFL.

The question is why can't your highly touted QB's beat out a QB that would be a 3rd string QB at Utah State this year if he had stayed?

BTW isn't your 5 star, highly touted, #1 QB now a "backup" in Kansas?

Proud Ute
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James Lark - top 15 in the nation qb recruit
Jason Munns - top 20 in the nation qb recruit
Tanner Mangum - #2 in the nation qb recruit
Taysom Hill - top 30 in the nation qb recruit

What the troll did not say about the cougar clipboard corp:
This group has a TOTAL of 9 pass attempts. Pretty weak prep job there Coach.
Mangum won't throw a pass for 3 years, better not count those chickens yet.
Last #2 was a absymal failure. Was it him or was he mismanaged?

Give me the experience, grit and class of Jon Hays anyday.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@utahcountyute and uteology

The fact that Heaps, the #1 qb recruit in the nation, couldn't beat out one of BYU's other recruits, and the fact heaps transferred and BYU STILL has 4 top 30 qb recruits, including the #2 qb recruit in the nation, on their roster, are just more evidence of how far beyond utah BYU is in qb recruiting.

Oh by the way, BYU's last 2 starting qb's that have run out of eligibility are either now in the NFL, or else made an NFL roster and started NFL games. Sounds like the NFL does want them uteology, how embarrassing for you to assert something false about something so widely known.

LOL!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@proud ute

"Give me the experience, grit and class of Jon Hays anyday."

Yea, right. LOL!

sammyg
Springville, UT

Uteology

"BTW isn't your 5 star, highly touted, #1 QB now a "backup" in Kansas?"

Nope, not even close... he's a benchwarmer sitting out a mandatory transfer year.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

Oh and "proud" ute, Mangum and Hill are freshman, brand new to the program, of course neither has thrown a pass, what a weird assertion by you. Lark and Munns, both top 20 recruits, are the backups. That is what happens when you are a school that signs high school all american, top 20 qb recruits just about every year. You see with the qb position only one guy plays most of the time. It's kind of like other schools that are noted for signing top talent at certain positions, a recruit that would be starting at most places never does at a top school, that is how it is at BYU with qbs. Kids that would start at the majority of the schools in the nation, like...say...utah for example, are just backups at BYU because BYU has so many of them. It is a very nice reality. utah "fans" wouldn't understand.

LOL!

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