Government never built a road. They took money from you (taxpayer) and then
hired someone in the private sector who knows how to build a road and they built
it. Also, I have read all of Obama's speach. He is saying that because
you received help from other people you should give more money to government.
This is a ridiculous statement no matter how you try to agrue that it is taken
out of context. We don't owe anybody. Someone built my house and I paid
them. Someone built my car and I paid them. Someone built my road and I paid
them. Someone taught me in schoool and I paid them. You could argue that
someone else paid for my education (it was not government, it was taxpayers). I
paid later for someone elses education.
Okay, I get it! I read the speech and I agree that businesses didn't build
that... They are successful because of help from everyone. Here we go...
My son just graduated top of his class because he studied hard. "Son, it
wasn't really you. It was your teacher and your classmate that helped you.
If it wasn't for your mom who gave birth to you, it won't be possible.
The author of the book you read is also part of it. But it wasn't really
you, sorry. How does that sound?
I don't know how many of you want to pay more taxes. I really do not care.
I am pretty sure most of the comments made on this particular statement, were
made by those who do not have a small business. Most people who support Obama
all work for some huge unionized corporation or most likely the government
itself. Small one or two man businesses are under seige by this government. We
are paying over 70% of our income in taxes. We are unable to get loans. To small
to ask for help, to much money turned to avoid the massive tax hike that is
coming our way. This is not because of poor math or bad book keeping or even
over spending. We are totally being sucked dry.
Re: Eric Samuelsen Provo, UT"First, millions of small business owners
weren't steaming angry at Obama."That's like saying
the Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day was a failure. Business owners all across our
nation will tell you that the federal government obstructs their ability to grow
and hire the unemployed.The Federal Government offers money but it
always comes with all kinds of strings attached, and business owners will tell
you how stupid they are ..... if you care to listen.
Patriot,First, millions of small business owners weren't steaming
angry at Obama. A few people who only caught the Fox edited spin got angry.
Second, your reading of the tone of the speech is, frankly, silly.
To alt134You miss the very obvious differences in comparing
Romney's and Obama's remarks.Romney is clearly giving
praise to everyone, asking nothing in return. He's congratulating Olympic
athletes and successful business owners, and giving praise to the systems they
utilized to become successful. What he's saying is "Isn't this a
great country - how blessed we ALL are!" It's a motivational speech,
offensive only to those salivating for capitalism to be spanked.Obama's comments, in any context, are clearly intended to put business
owners in their place - to warn them against taking too much credit, and to
chastise them if they don't cheerfully fall in line with his stated
objective of confiscating the "fair share" they owe to the government.
It's demeaning and insulting, and his attempt to redefine his obvious
message is effective only to the truly most gullible of our people. Successful
business owners aren't buying it, but I suppose you think successful
business owners are just "easy to fool."The difference
couldn't be more stark, and only the most die-hard blind partisan could
even suggest the intended meaning of their remarks are the same.
Patriot,In the future, I will not attempt to comprehend what I read.
I will wait for you to tell me what it means, because clearly, your reading
comprehension is spot on and mine is clearly flawed.
re:JoeBlowIf you actually read the whole speech then you seem to
have a problem with understanding intent. Did you listen to the whole speech
too? I did both and it is painfully clear to even the casual observer Joe what
Barack meant in his infamous "you didn't build that" comment.
Barack was trying to convey the message that business owners were all indebted
to the government because it was because of the government that they had ANY
business success which is complete NONSENSE and completely insulting. Why do you
think that millions of small business owners - who also listened to and read the
whole ridiculous speech - were steaming mad at these insulting comments from
Obama. OBama went out of his way to suggest that he was always struck by
business owners who dared to think that it was because of their hard work -
sacrifice - genius that they were able to build a successful business. In other
words - hard work has nothing to do with success - it is mainly to do with the
federal government and so ..... we all OWE the government even more taxes since
they do so much for us which is nonsense.
re:atl134Are you serious - really? For the record Mitt stated that
Olympic athletes were successful because of the their parents and coaches which
goes without saying. What Mitt did NOT say to these Athletes was "you did
not win that medal - the government created the roads and bridges and provided
the police and firefighters so you could get to practice so again - you
didn't win that medal and you shouldn't think the winning of that
medal had anything to do with your hard work - exceptional gifts and talents -
sacrifice etc.... Obama's comments were insanely wrong and stupid and you
know it so please stop trying to justify them. Recall that Barack said that
there are lots of smart people out there and the only reason some have business
success is because the government somehow made them successful. What is so
moronic and dumb about this is the fact that most of these business owners had
to OVERCOME government regulations and taxes in order to build a business and
the government had NOTHING to do with them being successful. Obama's
motivation for this dumb speech was to justify more taxes on the middle class.
@alt134 - to suggest that Obama and Romney were saying the same thing is nothing
short of highly dishonest by any rational person. While Obama was lecturing and
scolding, Romney was saying "Yeah, we know that, and isn't it
great."I'm curious - when Obama called Michael Phelps to
congratulate him, do you suppose he launched into a diatribe about how Phelps
didn't earn that, meaning his parents paid for swim lessons, and he
benefited from a swimming tradition and infrastructure in our country that
afforded him the great opportunity to receive the necessary training to become
the best swimmer in the world?I suspect he didn't, because no
matter how true it might be, it would clearly be an unnecessary lecture, and an
insult to Phelps. America's successful businesspeople
don't need his condescending lectures either.
@LetsDebateThey were saying the same exact thing. I suspect you already
know that but that would hinder the narrative you want to write and you feel
stupid for having bought Romney's attack on Obama without realizing it was
based on an out of context quote. Too bad the American people aren't as
gullible and easy to fool as you were.@J ThompsonThe annual
deficit will be cut in half if we do nothing January 1st. Naturally Republicans
are scrambling to preserve all the tax cuts (except the Obama passed tax credits
for the poor naturally...) and preserve all the defense spending. So why should
I trust them to be any better on the deficit than Obama when Romney's plans
actually score worse than doing nothing?@patriot"In the
mind of a Marxist Socialist since birth (Barack Obama) there is no individual
success in society - only collective success"Get over it.
I've posted comments from Romney noting collective success in a campaign
speech about businesses within a week of Obama's comments noted in this
letter, and in a speech he gave to Olympic athletes. So I guess Romney's a
commie to you?
@Mike Richards"How many have swallowed Obama's rhetoric, hook,
line and sinker."Romney said it too. [I know that
you recognize that a lot of people help you in a business...The people that
provide roads, the fire, and the police. A lot of people help.]"Our credit rating has been degraded "As stated by the
firm that downgraded us it was because 1. we didn't cut enough spending
(kinda the Dems fault though Obama had a 4 trillion deficit reduction deal with
3 trillion in spending cuts on the table). 2. we didn't raise revenue
(republicans fault) and 3. there was uncertainty with regard to whether or not
we'd raise the debt ceiling (Bachmann et al's fault).@MountanmanNobody said to shift to anything that isn't a
majority-private sector economy. Way to throw a strawman argument out there.
In the mind of a Marxist Socialist since birth (Barack Obama) there is no
individual success in society - only collective success. This is the basis of
Communism and their twisted thinking but is completely foreign to the American
spirit since 1776. Barack made his infamous "you didn't built it "
comments for one reason - to attempt to justify his soon to come tax increases
on the middle class. Obamacare being ruled a HUGE tax by Judge Roberts forced
Barack to to spin some new strategy which justified the reality of that
Obamacare places on all of us - BIG tax increases. Of course team Obama
didn't want to tie new taxes to Obamacare but the Supreme Court did it for
them. The bottom line here - Obama is dishonest just like his first state of the
Union address when a US Congressman called him a liar outright. People in
America aren't used to Marxist thinking and Barack knows he has to bring
them along slowly and in an inconspicuous way to avoid political damage prior
to the election.
This letter may not be the best at laying out the case against BHO and his
ridicules and foolish rhetoric, when he goes off teleprompter, but it does
continue the the argument of what a deluded, lying, arrogant man he is. He is
absolutely one of the 2 most pathetic presidents of my lifetime! The really
astounding thing about it all, is how defensive so many leftists get over his
idiocy, and how they all feel the need to come and rescue and save him from his
inanity. The mental acrobats they have to go through to justify him is also
truly astounding. The fact is we all know that every society has a
"private" sector, even in a communist society. The issue is how you view
government. BHO and all leftists are big government people, who think more
government is better! That is irrefutable! The other fact is business (private
sector) doesn't need government to survive, but government definitely needs
the private sector to survive!
Mountainman - thanks for the lesson in civics, mathand sociology; except I
don't remember any liberals/democrats on here saying we don't need the
private sector. Can you find that for me? Now, back to lessons in logic
and reading comprehension.
@Roland,Interest paid on the debt last year was $227 BILLION
dollars. That equals over 30% of the cost of defense. That is a huge amount of
money. There is absolutely no guarantee that anyone will continue to buy our
debt at low interest rates. We are already heading towards unknown territory.
With a credit rating heading downwards, spiraling annual deficits, millions of
people out of work, decreasing tax revenue and increasing costs for social
programs - not including Obamacare - no one in their right mind would continue
to lend money to our government.If any of us went to our banker with
a balance sheet like Obama's, we would be shown the door. @Emajor,Obama had to really work to mess things up to the point
that not one Senator in the Democrat controlled Senate has any confidence in
Obama's ability to lead us financially. When even his own party refuses to
support his budget, you know that he is just blowing smoke when he tells us that
the Republicans caused our woes.
@alt134 - it's difficult to believe that you can't tell the difference
between Obama's scolding lecture to successful businesspeople and
Romney's acknowledgement that we already know there's a debt of
gratitude to the builders of our country - and therefore successful
businesspeople don't need the scolding lecture from Obama.I
suspect you can already see the difference, but as with your beloved president,
you're hoping most people are tremendously gullible.
To Mike Richards: People all over the world are lending us money for nothing.
They are actually paying us to keep their money if you factor in an inflation
rate of just 1.5%.
Where's the crystal ball, Mike? The one that tells you what would have
happened if Obama hadn't implemented his policies? The one that proves his
policies were harmful? Until you find it, all you have are the current numbers
and the uneducated assumption that because of them the end result is worse. Even
economists haven't been able to agree on the stimulus. Are you an
economist? Can you prove to anyone that unemployment would be lower under
McCain/Palin? No. You. Cannot.
I think the republicans are envious it was such a good speech.
Eric,Get over Obama, He has hurt you. He has hurt me. He has hurt
every American. He has spent $5 TRILLION dollars in three years. EVERY
AMERICAN now owes an additional $16,666 just to put us back where we were when
he took office. Our credit rating has been degraded meaning that we pay MORE
for the interest on those fabled bonds that you said were the key to
prosperity.Over 1,000,000 more people are out of work and not paying
taxes since Obama took office.His highway to prosperity is a one-way
road to bankruptcy.He has done nothing except tell us we're
losers - when he can't get even ONE VOTE in the Senate for his budget.
What happened to Harry Reid. Surely Harry would give him his vote. Even Harry
Reid thinks that Obama doesn't know what a "$" sign means.No banker will lend you or me or the government money for a pipe-dream. They
want equity. Equity comes from profits not from irresponsible promises. They
want a guaranteed pay back. Obama can't even convince the Senate that he
can pay anything back.
Mountanman Hayden, ID"Great letter Jan! Obama doesn't
understand fundamental economics in that if the private sector isn't
working, being successful and paying taxes, there will be no money to pay the
public sector." No wonder progressives and conservatives
can't talk with one another. Conservatives seem to live in an alternate
universe.Think "symbiosis". The public sector and the
private sector depend upone one another for a great number of things. Some here
think it is a one-way deal, but reality appears to fog their thinking processes.
Quoting out of context or getting the quote entirely wrong is wrong! I sure
every small businessperson benefits from the infrastructure of which Obama
spoke. Let's get it right next time, OK?Even in the "good
ol' days" wealth was not created entirely one one's own. One
never gets there entirely on one's own, so lets acknowledge the help we get
from others (in whatever form) and get to more substantive debate about how to
fix the system.Since this is all about whether government has a role
in benefitting our lives (or our businesses as appears to be the issue),
let's recognize that we depend, more or less, on government in a variety of
Democrats are poor at math and sociology. It may take a village to support the
public sector as long as the majority of the village is in the private sector
and here is why! Suppose a public sector employee earns a salary of $50,000 per
year and pays 15% if their salary in taxes= $7500. $50,000 salary received minus
the taxes he paid leaves a shortfall of $42,500 the private sector has to make
up with their taxes to afford the one public worker! Multiply that deficit times
all the public employees and you can see mathematically why the private sector
has to carry the burden for the public sector! Further understand that a private
sector worker’s salary is not paid by the government so his salary
necessarily has to come, again, from the private sector 100%. No charge to you
Democrats for this lesson in civics and mathematics!
>Mike RichardsLet's count all the places you're wrong.>The government built NOTHING until business paid the taxes. Not true. Often government borrows money, uses that to build
infrastructure, which leads to businesses growing, leading to tax revenues.
It's not 'first this then that'. It's both sides working
together. Synergy.>Obama's sense of history is as distorted
as his sense of economics. You know nothing about his sense of history, or
his grasp of economics. Judge not. . .>Taxes are paid AFTER
businesses make a profit - not before. Obama doesn't know that. You
don't know what he knows and what he doesn't know. You're not in
his head. But his remarks clearly demonstrate his firm grasp of
'taxes' and 'profits.' >He's so intent
on telling us that he is right and everybody else is wrongSomething he has
never said. I challenge you, when and where he said that. >he
is past hearing what business people would tell him about creating jobs.His supporters and advisors include Bill Gates and Warren Buffet.
How many have swallowed Obama's rhetoric, hook, line and sinker.The government built NOTHING until business provided the jobs that paid the
taxes that generated the revenue that the government used to hire people from
the private sector to build the infrastructure. Obama's sense of history
is as distorted as his sense of economics. Government did NOTHING until
business paid them to do it. Obama twisted things completely
around. He's got the horse pushing the cart. Even as a pre-teen farmboy,
I knew that the horse belongs in front of the cart.Taxes are paid
AFTER businesses make a profit - not before. Obama doesn't know that and I
doubt that he cares. He's so intent on telling us that he is right and
everybody else is wrong that he is past hearing what business people would tell
him about creating jobs.The only thing that he has proven is that he
is deaf to any idea that will work.Please spare us the rhetoric
about him proposing anything to do with a budget. He doesnt' know what a
budget is. The entire Senate turned him down his 2013 budget proposal - 99 to 0.
@LetsDebateHe's noting the benefits of infrastructure and how
investing in that sort of thing will help the economy while also allow for a
boost in jobs to help ride things out til the private sector gets back together.
Yeah that thing is paid for with a tax increase on the rich that brings their
rates no higher than what they were under Clinton, that's because Democrats
tend to pay for their spending bills.Though since Romney said this
within a week of Obama's "you dind't build that" thing... Romney: "I know that you recognize that a lot of people help you in a
business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There's no question your mom
and dad. Your school teachers. The people that provide roads, the fire, and the
police. A lot of people help." I have to wonder if you question
why he would say that too, or is the devious motive thing only applicable to
@LetsDebate"Class warfare?" Why use this kind of meaningless
rhetorical term? President Obama and Governor Romney disagree about what the
percentage should be for higher tax brackets. That's not warfare, it's
a debate. He did not say business people are milking the teet (sic) of publicly
Given the context all Obama followers want so desperately to believe, what was
Obama's speech about? Why the need to lecture business owners? I'd
like to see all those people Obama keeps running into with the total narcissism
to assert that no one helped them create and maintain businesses - that they
didn't benefit from roads, bridges, other infrastructure, and firemen and
teachers. I don't believe this kind of businessman exists.Obama's point of lecturing businesspeople is to shame them into accepting
a higher tax rate. More likely, to drive his base into a frenzy of class
warfare. Horribly pathetic.Presidents used to praise successful
businesspeople for their ingenuity, risk-taking, investment of heart and
finances, for putting people to work, for keeping the economic engine alive that
has created more prosperity than any other country in the history of the world.
Now, our President waggs his finger and lectures them about not paying their
fair share, and accuses them of taking credit when they're just milking the
teet of a publicly financed infrastructure.I don't see that his
comments, in context, are any better than how they're spun by Romney's
"Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die"Says it right
in the scriptures LDS members, do what you like there is no consequence to our
The government can't give anything to the people that it doesn't first
take from the people. The Federal Government is responsible for blocking growth
with all their regulations, fees, and taxes.No wonder a loaf of
bread costs the customer so much!!
You know what would be awesome? If I woke up one day to find that my
church's newspaper was filled with intelligent, thoughtfull, non-partisan
investigative jounalism that I didn't either bow my head in shame for or
have to fact check every word.
Thank you Twin.I am so sick of people intentionally misrepresenting
the truth for political gain.And, sorry to say, but I see that on
the Right Repeatedly. I get viral emails weekly that are complete fabrications
that have NO Truth in them whatsoever.Death Panels, Birth
Certificates, Obama wants to take away your guns, Obama is a Muslim, Obama is a
socialist, Muslim brotherhood infiltrated Hillary Clinton's office, Nancy
Pelosi's jet, Obamas vacation days and costs blah blah blahI
see this garbage weekly. And while I am certain some of it exists on the left,
I DONT see it. And I am confident that it is nowhere nearly as pervasive as
what comes out from the right. It is an intentional barrage of
miss-information.Google Dick Morris Obamas comming taxes. Blatant,
intentional, outright lies intended to mislead and scare old people. Find one
shred of truth in there. I vote both R and D, but the R is getting
more and more embarrassing.Is it really that difficult to find true
dirt on Obama?
Could someone PLEASE change the channel? I am just sick of listening to this
stupidity. It's like watching endless reruns of the same banal show.A. This is not what Obama said and certainly not what he meant.B. We have an election coming up and far more important issues to discuss than
these non-issues.I won't be voting for Obama. But this is
certainly not the reason.
Stop listening to Faux News and start paying attention to what President Obama
said. Of course the right attempted to find people who claim to have done
it all on their own and it backfired. The business owner they interviewed
received an interest free loan, from the government, for $800,000.
This letter is just one more in a pile of examples of the truth of the saying
that a liberal is simply a conservative who refuses to allow himself to be
fooled by anyone.
Moderate: " Is 'conservative' synomymous with 'poor at
math?'"The short answer is - yes, the evidence is clear
they're terrible at math.They're also terrible at science,
and history, and reading comprehension and the use of logic. Each of those
disciplines reveal gaping flaws in the conservative world view.I
know those are harsh words, but one need look no further than the ascendency of
the Tea Party to see that this unflattering assessment of contemporary
conservatism is demonstrably true.In the conservative universe
beliefs are more important than objective, testable evidence, and so they
dismiss reality in order to preserve their beliefs. News reporting
that they don't like is dismissed as "biased." Court rulings they
don't agree with are dismissed as "judicial activism."
Peer-reviewed scientific research that contradicts their beliefs are dismissed
as "junk science." Distort, deny, fabricate... anything to avoid
dealing with reality. Jan's letter being the perfect case in point.Conservatives didn't always behave this way. Understanding why the
conservative movement of today has gone so far off the rails is a subject that
will keep historians and sociologists busy for years.
Is "conservative" synomymous with "poor at math"? A single
business does NOT pay enough taxes to support an entire police force, fire
department, and supporting infrastructure. To quote another politician "It
takes a village".
To KDave 7:48 a.m. Aug. 5, 2012So true. Many Politicos (like Obama)
like to take credit for the hard work of others.-----------------------And that statement is not supported by
U.S. government research created the internet. Without that, Google, Ebay,
Amazon, Facebook, and thousands of other online businesses, would not exist.
President Obama nowhere suggested that the government created those businesses,
merely that the government created the conditions for them to come into being.
Which is a totally accurate statement.
It's been established repeatedly that President Obama was talking about
roads and infrastructure that most businesses can't survive without when he
said "you didn't built that." If you're going to criticize,
at least quote him correctly.
Obama was saying that businesses didn't build the roads and bridges, that
gov't helps with things like infrastructure investments, and Romney
agrees.Obama: "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable
American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in
roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.
Somebody else made that happen. ... The point is, is that when we succeed, we
succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things
together."Romney: "I know that you recognize that a lot of
people help you in a business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There's no
question your mom and dad. Your school teachers. The people that provide roads,
the fire, and the police. A lot of people help." Or maybe we can
use an olympic one.Romney: "You Olympians... know that you
didn't get here solely on your own power. For mot of you, loving parents,
sisters or brothers encouraged your hopes. Coaches guided. Communities built
venues and organized competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those
who lifted them."Communities built venues? So he thinks even
Great letter Jan! Obama doesn't understand fundamental economics in that if
the private sector isn't working, being successful and paying taxes, there
will be no money to pay the public sector. That means teachers, fireman,
policeman, etc will not get paid unless taxpayers in the private sector are
successful first and not the other way around!
How many times do we have to say this? Read the whole talk!!!!!!
Actually, in his world, all that money you paid in taxes belongs to the
government anyway along with the rest of your money. Whenever the government
lets you keep a little more of it, it is a "gift". Every tax cut is a
giveaway. Every attempt to let rich people keep a little more of it is an unfair
gift to those who don't deserve it.All that money that Mitt
Romney earned really isn't his. It is the government's. Shame on him
for spending it (or storing it) in places that it's rightful owner (the
government) does not approve of. The only solution is to wrest more control over
it to its rightful owner by raising his taxes. Once you understand
this mentality, President Obama's comments make perfect sense.
And some more text from the same speech which could probably also be interpreted
as anti-American if you are so inclined."The point is, is that
when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also
because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires,
we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire
service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires."So
we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what,
there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the G.I.
Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built
the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the
Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together
as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running
for President -- because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your
own, we’re in this together."
Here's the paragraph in which the dreaded quote is found. Might as well
have it in context:"If you’ve been successful, you
didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own.
I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just
so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked
harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole
bunch of hardworking people out there. If you were successful, somebody along
the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.
Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that
allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve
got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that
happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research
created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the
Do you realize that in your perverse argument, you actually argue both sides of
the equation? Either you don't get the point of the President, or you are
engaged in a deliberate deception and misrepresentation. Which is it?
...and this letter is further evidence that a conservative who is still rankled
by Mr. Obama's election will distort every possible statement and ignore
every possible alternative explanation in an intellectually impoverished attempt
to denigrate a viewpoint with which he/she does not understand. Mr.
Obama's point is that you did not create your business in a vacuum;
infrastructure, technology, the work of your teachers before you created an
atmosphere in which your hard work could yield results. He didn't say you
did not work hard or deserve success. Not sure why we're taking offense at
this, it is essentially complementing America. Which Obama apparently cannot do
because conservatives like to label him as an American-hater? You truly are
masters at spin. You know how to twist a quote. You know how to create
boogeymen. And you know how to repeat the lie over and over and over again.
You really should listen to the speech or read the transcript of it, Jan. For,
the President was referring to public work projects built by the government on
behalf of the people. These are important public assets private providers would
not step up and build.
another letter taking the President's quote out of context... His point is that continued GOP rhetoric that government spending doesn't
better business opportunity or society is a myth. Without infrastructure,
industry cannot grow and thrive. That's all.Yes, the
government did build the Internet. And yes, it was Al Gore's
forward-seeing sponsored legislation in 1992 that allowed businesses to operate
and profit off of it.
So true. Many Politicos (like Obama) like to take credit for the hard work of
Jan, Its clear you never listened to the speech. You just took the edited GOP
talking point and ran with it. Seriously, there are so many other points about
Obama you could discuss, bringing this up just brings the intelligence level of
political dialog down.
President Obama is saying the same thing: all of us contribute to the business
environment that breeds success. We contribute by paying taxes; we contribute by
supporting education; we contribute by mentoring young people. If we don't
all contribute, success for anyone becomes much more difficult. I
am growing increasingly discouraged by Governor Romney's campaign which
appears to be focused on deliberately misconstruing meaning (see, also, the Ohio
voting rights issue) in order to create false issues. Frankly, I expect more
honesty from a former stake president.
So what you are saying is that paying taxes is good because it gives your
business the infrastructure it needs to operate. I agree.
Jan,I just read the entire Obama speech. The one that you took a
one sentence excerpt.I challenge you to read the whole speech and
tell me what you disagree with. I am not talking about one sentence
taken out of context, but the speech as a whole and the concepts that are being
conveyed.Read it and tell me that your one sentence is the message
that is conveyed.I am guessing that spreading the miss-information
is really what it is about.
"President Obama's statement... is further evidence that, to him, the
federal government is a magical make-believe land where money grows endlessly on
trees."That's nonsense. Nothing in either the complete
remarks from which this quote is taken, or from any action the president has
taken can be construed to show a disregard for the sources of federal revenue.
President Obama has, in fact, gone to great lengths to offer
proposals to shrink the deficit, but Republicans, adherents to Grover
Norquist's cult of fiscal fantasy, refuse to accept deficit reduction plans
offered to them because a small fraction of those plans also include closing
certain tax loopholes to increase tax revenue.When businesses pay
their fair share of taxes, then yes, they are in fact helping themselves and
other businesses to succeed. And then what of when businesses pay little or no
taxes?The point is that the taxes a business pays aren't put
into an earmarked account and spent exclusively on only those roads and other
infrastructure that directly benefit that business. President
Obama's observation is completely valid - success in business requires both
individual initiative _and_ public infrastructure.